I really love my race deck flooring for my two car garage. Only one issue. Once when my wife was pulling car in, she hit the brakes quickly (friont wheels on race deck and rear wheels on driveway)and the whole floor moved forward and buckled. The only way to get it back to normal was pull out and hit the brakes while only the front wheels were on the race deck. It has happened to me once or twice where two large shelving units almost toppled over. All quite comical, but has anyone else had this problem and how do I prevent this floating floor from sliding?
Race Deck sliding issue
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mpraddict
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get rid of the wife 
BillK
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Sounds like you need to adjust the rear brakes on the car so when you hit the pedal all four wheels stop at the same time.
vettex2
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Racedeck is junk so pull it out and do the floor right
66HertzClone
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Other than your obviously unbiased opinion do you have any information to support that claim?
vettex2
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Yes. I have personally seen the **** fail with a floor jack punching holes/crushing it.
Liquids seep underneath trapping them. If it's water then mold can form.
It's for great for trade shows but ***** in a shop that does actual work
Liquids seep underneath trapping them. If it's water then mold can form.
It's for great for trade shows but ***** in a shop that does actual work
RaceDeck1
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From your comments, I am guessing you personally have never owned RaceDeck? First, let me say that there are people who are die-hard lovers of epoxy or ceramic tile or polished concrete or carpet or filthy untreated concrete or even dirt/gravel floors or modular flooring and for them there is nothing better than what they have and there is nothing anyone can say to sway them, which is great as they are happy in thier garage
. All floors have their +'s & -'s. First, RaceDeck is channeled to allow air, moisture and liquids to flow freely under the floor and the material we use eliminates mold and mildew. RaceDeck resists gas, oil, brake fluid, ****** fluid, household chems, etc.. RaceDeck handles extreme rolling loads and can handle car lifts, engine stands, etc... Jack stands are fine as long as you not used the cheap china made angle iron leg style that is at times as sharp as a table knife.. the Snap-On - Bluepoint, Matco, etc.. with bases in stands are great.
With well over 100+ million feet of RaceDeck in garages, I am confident in our patented product line and stand proudly behind every garage floor we sell.
Cheers
vettex2
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spoken like a true sales man
No I have not owned it personally, nor would I ever buy it for a shop
I have worked for a team that had it
as I stated, it's good for shows but ***** for working on
you cannot eliminate mold on the cement either
No I have not owned it personally, nor would I ever buy it for a shop
I have worked for a team that had it
as I stated, it's good for shows but ***** for working on
you cannot eliminate mold on the cement either
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Travisnd
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ishiboo
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Mold requires something organic... simply having water, plastic and concrete would not be a good candidate for mold. That would be one of my least concerns with any of the plastic flooring products. An occasional cleaning with a tiny bit of bleach would probably eliminate that issue if there was one.
RaceDeck seems like a good product. All of the plastic flooring products have similar issues to sharp heavy things, water under them, etc... the nature of the beast. For a parking garage I'm considering it, for a welding shop or place where jacks/jack stands/etc. are frequently used... industrial concrete is the way to go.
vettex2
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and trapping water will attract organic matter
stuff falls through the cracks too
after seeing it pulled out of a REAL shop that does work, you would not believe the mess it leaves underneath
been there, seen it
RaceDeck1
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It seems that you have been actively trolling pretty much every RD and modular floor post. Your claims are false and it is extremely obvious that you are not speaking from owning RaceDeck.
vettex2
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Did you read what I said. Go back and read it
I can paraphrase it:
I did not own it, I just built cars in a shop that had it and yanked it out because it sucked
I do not have to own something to have experience with it.
you are now trolling the threads I commented in.
I just commented with my experience
I can paraphrase it:
I did not own it, I just built cars in a shop that had it and yanked it out because it sucked
I do not have to own something to have experience with it.
you are now trolling the threads I commented in.
I just commented with my experience
Robert Haas
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You can anchor it down, however the folks at Racedeck strongly suggest you don't
Have worked on top of this stuff for years. I like how it looks, and how easy it is to put down/install/pick up and transport.
As far as working on top of it, it is just not as "good" as concrete for one obvious reason. Little heavily loaded wheels hate rolling on it. (Big tool boxes and a car on a dolley/floor jack.
I would absolutely own it and park my hot rods and show cars on it.
Have worked on top of this stuff for years. I like how it looks, and how easy it is to put down/install/pick up and transport.
As far as working on top of it, it is just not as "good" as concrete for one obvious reason. Little heavily loaded wheels hate rolling on it. (Big tool boxes and a car on a dolley/floor jack.
I would absolutely own it and park my hot rods and show cars on it.
vettex2
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****. I forgot to mention that.
Robert Haas
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Don't drag me into your hater thread
I like the stuff, it is just built for specific applications.
I have metal benches and plastic benches I can't weld on my plastic ones and don't assemble my shiny stuff on a metal bench. Right tools for the job right?
vettex2
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I don't hate it. It has a purpose
I like it for car shows and such, just not for an actual work space.
I like it for car shows and such, just not for an actual work space.
Jeff Ivers
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Trying to get back to the OP original issue - I had the Race Deck in my garage slide on me once. I was backing out and realized I had not made sure my mirror would clear the door edge and slammed on the brakes in panic mode. I was probably backing up at 2 mph. All 4 wheels were on the RD and it drug it part way out of the garage. I actually had to snap the flooring apart into small enough sections that I could drag back into position and re-snap together. The issue was totally my error. I have had RD for years and, after learning to be more cautious, I have had no further issues.
dubber
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I've never had an issue with floor sliding. Both my wife and myself have pulled in and out of two garages with the flooring without and issues.
NitroShark
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OP..... this sounds quite possible. I would look further into it as a solution .
doorfx
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I'm pretty sure all vehicles are set up with front brake bias. You don't want your *** end locking up and sliding when a good portion of your weight is transferred to the front brakes. I may be out to lunch but IIRC that's how it used to be.
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Just remove it. It's not working for you. It's funny until something expensive gets damaged or someone gets hurt.
I was away for a few days and saw than my original question got hijacked. But glad to see some genuine replies. Possibly, since I have a smooth epoxy floor underneath rather than an unpainted concrete floor may be causing the problem. I love the Race Deck Free Flow and proved its value this winter in the rain/ice/snow mix with good draining and no puddling as in the past. As well, working under the car was a lot warmer than being on the cold concrete floor. Great product.
Same problem here on my new floor.!
Just installed my Racedeck Freeflow in my garage this past weekend. It was beautiful! As soon as I drove my truckk in and backed it out the tile slid, buckled and came apart destroying the floor. I was able to salvage all but two tiles and tried it again, moved very slow and it did it again when I backed out.
Melanie and Sarah are working with me, but contributing factors the waterlip at the front of the garage, the wheel stop at the back of the garage and the smooth floor.
Going to take out six inches of tile, put the rubber underlaminant in around the edges and hopefully thAt will resolve the issue
Just installed my Racedeck Freeflow in my garage this past weekend. It was beautiful! As soon as I drove my truckk in and backed it out the tile slid, buckled and came apart destroying the floor. I was able to salvage all but two tiles and tried it again, moved very slow and it did it again when I backed out.
Melanie and Sarah are working with me, but contributing factors the waterlip at the front of the garage, the wheel stop at the back of the garage and the smooth floor.
Going to take out six inches of tile, put the rubber underlaminant in around the edges and hopefully thAt will resolve the issue
James-W
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Welcome to the forum.
I have the Racedeck Diamond tiles on my garage floor and have had no issues with sliding tiles. I use my garage mostly as a workshop for doing woodworking. I don't usually park my car inside, but I do park inside if I am working on the car or if there is a big hailstorm coming this way. I didn't put an underlayment down, the tiles are just sitting on the concrete floor, but they don't seem to move when I drive the car on them.
vettex2
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LOL....Epoxy is better anyway
danieldd
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Can you expand on your last statement a little? What rubber underlayment are you using and how is this going to solve the issue? Also, how does the wheel stop and the waterlip contribute to the floor sliding??
How fast are you guys driving in and out of your garages? I have two 4x4 Tundras and an AWD Lexus and have zero problems with the floor sliding. My driveway even has a slight downhill grade which I thought would be a problem with the tires pulling the floor as I drive up in, nope its fine. My only thought is that the floors that are sliding do not have any permanent weight on them like cabinets or tool boxes.
RyanRA
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I'm still musing between RaceDeck's Free Flow and SwissTrax's RibTrax tiles and didn't even think there was the possibility of a having sliding floor. Curious to know more about the sliding floors though. How deep are the garages and is RaceDeck a wall to wall installation?
CJDave
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My Free Flow is tight against the rear wall with cabinets, a fridge, a deep freeze and such lining the back wall. I have experienced no sliding in the 2 1/2 years it has been down. Maybe entering the garage under impulse power instead of with the warp drive engaged would be a better way. CJ Dave.
Garage Flooring
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This is way after the fact, but I thought I would share it based on some information we saw from a vendor today. Normally (this is old info) something like https://www.overstock.com/Home-Gard...70owr4KzAziwvZSGRoCXG_w_wcB&gclsrc=aw.dsunder the first couple of rows will help a lot.
Sometimes if your garage has a lip at the front of it, your tire will it the edging at a different angel and starting the tiles (or moving them) 6-12" back will help.
Sometimes if your garage has a lip at the front of it, your tire will it the edging at a different angel and starting the tiles (or moving them) 6-12" back will help.
Denwood
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If your floor has an epoxy finish, the RD will slide. I ground my floor and coated it with white stain. I nearly wiped out stepping on a single RD tile on this floor as the plastic has a very low friction coefficient on a smooth finished floor.
My RD parking pad has a layer of white EPDM underneath (seamless roofing) which pretty much stops any sliding. My suggestion is that you consider tiling underneath the shelving units, remove the RD underneath it, or anchor the units to the wall. The EPDM works, so worth a try if you're not dropping brake fluid on it
I used the membrane to contain snow melt, but it incidentally has stopped any sliding between the RD tile and my floor.
This is the thread on the EPDM/RD parking pad: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=309814
Your wife will need to go easy on the brakes
My RD parking pad has a layer of white EPDM underneath (seamless roofing) which pretty much stops any sliding. My suggestion is that you consider tiling underneath the shelving units, remove the RD underneath it, or anchor the units to the wall. The EPDM works, so worth a try if you're not dropping brake fluid on it
I used the membrane to contain snow melt, but it incidentally has stopped any sliding between the RD tile and my floor.This is the thread on the EPDM/RD parking pad: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=309814
Your wife will need to go easy on the brakes
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Glad to hear I am not alone on this issue. So there are three contributing factors: free flow tiles vs regular, smooth epoxied floor and a raised garage floor lip from apron. The EPMD seems like a good inexpensive solution. Since the free flow tiles have less surface area per square foot touching the floor is probably the largest contributing factor. Coincidentally, I dealt with Melanie when I was at the SEMA show and ordered the floor then. The RD people were all great to deal with. Once the snow melts around here, I will take up the floor and put down the EPDM. Fortunately, putting down the floor is not so difficult, now that I have all the corners and odd pieces cut.
NitroShark
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Be careful... EPDM is not very friendly with garage floors and oil/fuel etc... It will attack and swell.
Chemicals and their compatibility with EPDM
Aromatic Hydrocarbons D-Severe Effect
Asphalt D-Severe Effect
Diesel Fuel D-Severe Effect
Fuel Oils D-Severe Effect
Gasoline (high-aromatic) D-Severe Effect
Gasoline, leaded, ref. D-Severe Effect
Gasoline, unleaded D-Severe Effect
Grease D-Severe Effect
Hydraulic Oil (Petro) D-Severe Effect
Kerosene D-Severe Effect
Lacquer Thinners D-Severe Effect
Lubricants D-Severe Effect
Mineral Spirits D-Severe Effect
Motor oil D-Severe Effect
Naphtha D-Severe Effect
Petroleum D-Severe Effect
Stoddard Solvent D-Severe Effect
Toluene (Toluol) D-Severe Effect
Turpentine D-Severe Effect
Xylene D-Severe Effect
kngelv
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My neighbor has a super smooth epoxy floor with no flake or grit. I took my twelve RaceDeck sample tiles over there to see how much they slid on his floor. They definitely moved fairly easily. Then put some landscape fabric underneath. Took much more effort to slide. I think this is a cheap and likely effective solution. This is the time of year when Costco has landscape fabric dirt cheap. Good luck.
James
nh_yota
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If I had a sliding issue with RD floor I'd be inclined to fasten the front and back edges down to the concrete with drop-in anchors.