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ramairthree

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I have read a lot of other garage threads in other forums and also scoured through this site. Basically, all other sites with reputable advice said come here for garage flooring advice!

I have decided that I want to do an interlocking tile with a diamond plate pattern.

I am military and have moved enough that I don't want to put the time, money, and effort into a high quality surface I cannot move if I have to. I most likely will not have to move now, but you never know. I may decide to move when I finally decide to retire in 3 or more years or so. I have been in the same place for a while, but lived in one place three years, another one year, then another four years, then another four years, then another a year, then another two years, then another three years, ... you get the picture. Sure has been hard on furniture, etc.!

This crosses VCT, epoxy, peel and stick tiles, etching, etc. off the list.

This is for a standard two car garage. It usually houses a newer car and a '69 GTO driver with the typical slow rear main seal drip, power steering fluid leak, eaten 8track debris, etc. It gets the typical cardboard under the car. I put over 4000 miles a year on that car, it's not a show car/museum piece. I have a gravel driveway, and plenty of small sharp gravel makes it into the garage.

I am happy with the durability, ease of rolling/moving stuff, etc. of the concrete. I often get down with out a creeper, and the hardness and the looks are the issue. Something I may not need but I want.

I am looking at doing about a 19 x 21 foot area,
with one large 17 foot door opening to edge.

I plan on getting 270 gray tiles 12x12" and 160 black tiles 12x12" for a border,
and 18 feet black ramping edge
so I have extra tile for replacements, repair, a little trim if needed, etc.
Obviously, will adjust for different sized tiles.


I have bare concrete in good shape. I use a floor jack, jack stands, creeper, and do a little work like putting in a new starter, throwing in some relays to my headlights, changing oil, etc. No welding inside, or machine work, lifts, etc.

I have never had a moisture problem in the garage. It is not heated or airconditioned. Where I live it only sometimes gets below freezing and rarely snows.

I have narrowed down my choices to either a plastic like interlocking tile, or rubber interlocking tile.

If I do PVC/plastic, I will plan to do RaceDeck or another comparable tile based on replies. The company has great customer service reviews, employs lots of Americans, and is an American made product. Like anyone else, I find the gregsmithequipment type tiles at less than 1.69/sf very attractive pricewise. But when all is said and done I did not join enlist in the military in '85 and still be in because I want to buy Chinese **** and watch the economy tank. I have not gotten a quote from RD yet, but will be close to twice as much as that from what I understand.

My concerns with a hard tile are noise, comfort, brittleness in cold, buckling/expansion, slippery when wet, creeper, jackstand, jack, etc. use. Any longterm, first hand knowledge feedback on this I would much appreciate. Any other US made reccomendations of a hard tile, made in the USA, with a comparable quality and good economic quality to price ratio will be appreciated. For example, is the MotoFloor stuff currently on sale at Costco for under 2$ / sf American made, and at least 2/3 as quality of the RaceDeck? Can you pick it up at a Costco and also save by no shipping?

I am acutally leaning a little harder on wanting a rubber tile, for noise, comfort, etc. I understand it will not breathe well but have not had moisture issues. (In the garage anyway- basement is a different story!) Concerns are, would it be slippery, etc. I like a smooth, glossy look with the diamond plate pattern, but understand you can get too slippery.

I hear good things about the durability of the big foot (again gregsmith) rubber tiles, in the under 2.50/sf price range, but again it's from China. At that price I can do the floor now, instead of saving up some more. Nothing to worry about, I am not starving, but as garage guys you know how it is when the ****** you did not expect to need rebuilt does, and you want a new carb, etc. just a how long I need to wait thing. Luxury but not a necessity. Is there a comparable racedeck product to rubber or semiflexible/quiet RaceDeck?

I found RaceWay rubber tiles. Has anyone seen these in person. Are they shiny like the big foot stuff, or dull and matte? I can be able to do the garage now at their price. Are they US made? Anyways, again I would welcome comments on these tiles or other rubber tile options. I also considered roll out matts, but the size and weight and cost actually give an edge to the tiles instead. The raceway tiles are also called Titan tiles.

Anyways, thank you for any information. I have spent an hour or more a day for the past two weeks trying to learn more and read more about the options and have made it this far.

Here is the intended area.

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She is a real GTO. She left the factory an automatic and not a 4 speed Judge, which is why I could afford it and drive it so much with all pleasure and no guilt. The 1970s paneling has been painted a light gray which really improved the looks of the garage. Peg Board is a cost effective tool hanger in my book.

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Old tools and Craftsman box acquired over time. Sadly, some new Craftsman stuff I got is not on par with what I got 20 years ago. I added some Gladiator self assembled cabinets in the past few years because they were the sturdiest I could find for the price and picked each up at a good sale or clearance price. At the time I also thought Gladiator was to Whirlpool/Kenmore like Craftsman is to Sears. The previous owners DIY shelving has come down for looks and so if I need to I can do something sturdier. It has been coming along slowly but surely.

I have not gotten it back organized, decluttered, etc. since the paint, but it really makes a big difference. Although those of you that have painted paneling, know what a pain that it.

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I used this product and am very pleased.


http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/brow...on+Step+Floor+Tiles++24+x+24-in.jsp?locale=en


While i realize this is canadian store, this style is very common and should be readily available in the US.
The stuff listed is made in canada.

i have gotten oil/brake fluid/gas/brake cleaner and water/road salt on it with no problems, got it at $1/ft when Home Depot was getting rid of the line.

1-1/2 years later still very pleased.

jack up my old dodge p/up and use axle stands on it with no problems,

I just wanted to get rid of dust and be easy to clean.
I didn't want to stress over getting a high end (racedeck) floor dirty or damaged and at the price i paid i just don't worry about it LOL

You will get a lot of opinions on this BUT this is what i bought and am very pleased.

Good luck

gerry:beer:
 
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Well, its not a car garage but here is what I ended up with.
I am setting up my detached 24 x30 motorcycle garage/ boys club.

I decided to go with GarageDeck from bigfloors.com, I believe it is a slightly cheaper version of Racedeck.
seems very tough, my floor jack and wheeled stuff rolls over it easily.
I was worried that the sidestands and centerstands on the bikes would make a dent in the tiles.

That hasn't been a problem since I put it down about 4 months ago, not a mark to be found.

I couldn't tell you how it would hold up to dragging in lots of abrasive gravel.
it does sweep easily and is easy to mop up when it gets dusty.

I don't think I'd want to do any welding, I bet any splatter would damage the tile slightly.

Anyway here's a picture of my GarageDeck, I went with a red border and a royal blue and alloy checkerboard.

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I still have lots of stuff to do in these photos, I've moved in benches and some of my equipment, put up my tv and stereo and banished the mower to the garden shed for the winter.
 
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ramairthree

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Thank you for the information. I looked up Garagedeck and Garagetrac and they both are listed as US made. I will consider those as well.
 

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Search Racedeck threads here a bit. You'll find a lot about less expensive Costco versions made by the same manufacturer, the GJ Racedeck discount that helps a decent amount including free shipping, etc.
 
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ramairthree

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Search Racedeck threads here a bit. You'll find a lot about less expensive Costco versions made by the same manufacturer, the GJ Racedeck discount that helps a decent amount including free shipping, etc.

Thank you, I know do have an expanded range of US made products to look at.
 
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ramairthree

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Love my RaceDeck.Click on pic to enlarge.



Great garage, thanks.
I have samples coming from 5 different types of tiles now from three sources, all
US made.
Two different PVC diamond patterns, two different sizes, plus rubber tiles.

I keep reading on here over and over to get samples first, so going with that advice.
Two of the sources I see represented on multiple posts here and I do have to say both of them and the third have had great response times and service. One even said would said a free sample.
 
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Great garage, thanks.
I have samples coming from 5 different types of tiles now from three sources, all
US made.
Two different PVC diamond patterns, two different sizes, plus rubber tiles.

I keep reading on here over and over to get samples first, so going with that advice.
Two of the sources I see represented on multiple posts here and I do have to say both of them and the third have had great response times and service. One even said would said a free sample.

Please consider the MotoFloor from Costco. It is manufactured by the makers of RaceDeck, but it costs substantially less. I have had my MotoFloor for around 5 years, and I love it. :thumbup:
 
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ramairthree

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The RaceDeck was the first sample that made it. I let me kids go nuts on it with a hammer and tire iron. Slight cosmetic marks only. And then only if with a narrow edge blow. Going to see how my jack stands do on it. Pretty tough stuff!
 

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Motofloor from Costco for me (see my build thread)....3+ years now and still going strong.

Buy the rolls of underlayerment that Costco sells for laminate flooring and put it under the Motofloor. Completely takes care of the "clicking" noise issue you mention, and gives it a nice padded feel as well.

My $0.02 worth.
 
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ramairthree

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Decision made!

I got all my samples in.
For the 12 inch tiles;
I found the RaceDeck to be the highest quality of the tiles. And would have been well worth the little extra. However,
I did not really like the pattern, and my wife super did not either.

My favorite "feel" was the rubber tiles. They would have been less than the Racedeck, but they did not look that good, and had a marbled texture that would have been a dirt and grime magnet.

I had some with a glossy finish, but it was in coin pattern and they did not send the diamond I asked for. I was going to call to get the right samples sent, but under the garage lights the gloss was annoying and not nice.

The second highest quality sample I had was similar to the Racedeck, but I liked the pattern more. My wife really liked the pattern a lot better. The finish was a nice balance also. These were garagetrac tiles.

Other 12 inch tiles I either looked at elsewhere without a sample, or could not verify they were US made. With a couple of inquiries to the company asking where a product is made, and the question gets ignored or not answered, well that equals no sale.

If I was going to decide to save some money per tile and get China or otherwise made, I would want to know that honestly ahead of time.

I liked some 18 inch tiles I got size wise, but again,but neither liked the pattern nor the finish.


So- some Garagetrac tiles are on the way with black and graphite borders and light gray center. They are a US made product with a 12 year warranty. I give the edge in quality to the RaceDeck. I think the slight more cost for RaceDeck in a 400 or so sf garage would be worth it. It boils down to I think they are high quality enough for a residential garage, I like the looks better, and I won't have to hear my wife complain about why I did not get the ones she likes best.
 
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ramairthree

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Ok, so my US made, familiar to you all manufacturer tiles are in.

I wanted a diamond plate pattern and this is the diamond plate I liked best.

Garage still needs to be orgainized after the paint and now tiles, but it is coming along.

The cardboard under the goat is not permanent.
It had just been in the hardest rain I have ever had it in,
those old two speed wipers earned their pay.



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I like your floor, the double border makes it stand out nice. Lowes has a sale on your Gladiator cabinets thru Monday if you need more of those btw. I put in that rubber coinpop tile in my dad's basement a few years ago when HD closed it out at 33¢/sqft, wouldn't do it in the garage... spillage and seepage would kill it. What's the garagetrac/racedeck like with spillage? My garage needs a lot of floor repair and leveling before I can get to tiles or concrete stain, but I've never seen anyone talk about things like oil spills or carwash runoff with locking tiles. Also, how's it hold up under a jack or jackstands?
 
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ramairthree

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just got it put in today.
test with sample tile no problem with jackstands, floor jack, hitting it with a hammer, etc.
got a cosmetic scrape with leverage on the end of a crow bar. pretty tough stuff.

I saw that sale, thanks for the reminder. I got all of my cabinets either on sale or clearance.

Not sure how the tiles will be with the various leaks. The gto has a power steering fluid leak, and will drip some blowby oil from a very minute rear main seal leak after a long drive. I have a 71 Javelin with more leaks than I have figured out yet. Plan to cardboard to figure most leak area and put a catch pan under it.

Thought I was the only one that liked the border vs. checkerboard, but thanks! That solid patch of light tile I HOPE makes it easier everytime I am on my hands and knees looking for some part or washer or whatever I dropped.
 

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Great looking floor!

I'm looking to do the same one of these days so I appreciated all the good info as well.
 

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