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Hi
I always get questions on how we compare to other options in the market or to whatever the 'competitor of the day' has to say about us.
here is some helpful info from our site

RaceDeck® vs. The "Other" Modular Flooring Brands

RaceDeck 100% USA Made : From the design, tool & mold building, and manufacturing all is done under our roof right here in Salt Lake City, Utah, Prouldly American Made!
Competitors : Virtually every competitor outsources their molding /manufacturing, including cheaply made China flooring copies. Product quality and consistency is a huge issue in these products.

RaceDeck : Superior Molding Technology – With over 34 years of manufacturing modular flooring, we have created a proprietary manufacturing process that produces the most durable modular garage flooring product line world-wide. Our proprietary single flow injection system ensures the material flows evenly and consistently throughout the module with no break/ flow points. This process is far more costly to operate but the results are well worth it.
Competitors : A sure sign of a cheaply made product is a multi-point injection system. In manufacturing, a multi-point system causes the material to flow unevenly until it hits the next mass of material, causing severe structural flaws. Take one of these tiles and place the topside over your knee and bend, it will most likely break and in some cases shatter like glass.
RaceDeck PowerLock™ System : The multi-patent PowerLock™ system of RaceDeck is engineered to handle the heaviest of loads. When engaged, the lock become part of the super structure. The patent PowerLock™ also acts as an expansion system for garage with huge temperature swings.
Competitors : Many have locking systems which literally just hang on the outer wall, offering no structural support at all nor do they offer any function for expansion and contraction issues with temperature swings in the garage. Most of these inferior designs are an attempt to get around our various patents.

RaceDeck : Withstands rolling loads in excess of 50,000 lbs - The industries toughest!
Competitors : No other flooring system can match the RaceDeck line up

RaceDeck : Manufactured using the highest grade high-impact copolymers no fillers, no foam agents, no lead. Ensuring your floor will hold up to the harsh garage environment.
Competitors : Many competitors use filler and foaming agents in their products in an effort to save money and/or hide design flaws all at a huge cost to quality and structural integrity. There have also been issues with import products being contaminated with toxic lead.

RaceDeck : Is the leading manufacturer and supplier world-wide of modular garage flooring and the creators of the modular garage flooring industry you see today. We manufacture more modular flooring each month than that of all competitors combined do in a full year. With well over 100 million feet flooring the world over.
Competitors : There is no competitor that has been around for more than a few years and many have come and gone, leaving their customers with no one to turn to with product issues. Lack quality and consistency within their product line has been the main culprit for many of these companies to disappear.
 
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Re: RaceDeck " Keeping It Green"

Excuse me, if you are paid by RaceDeck, how can this possibly be an unbiased assessment?
 
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Pster - Not sure what made you think my post was unbiased?
my post contains " how we compare to other options in the market or to whatever the 'competitor of the day' has to say about us. "

I am not paid by RaceDeck, I am the owner of RaceDeck:thumbup: When we marketed the 1st modular flooring system, we were the only ones. Now years later, there is an entire industry with many competitors who have come and gone. We get PM'd, emailed and called every week with these questions and if you look at the flooring forum posts, there are many with these questions as well. :beer:
 

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Re: RaceDeck " Keeping It Green"

Excuse me, if you are paid by RaceDeck, how can this possibly be an unbiased assessment?


?????????????????????????????MMMMMMMMMMMM lemme see, his avatar is the racedeck logo, his username is racedeck, and lists the racedeck logo website, where does this thread say ANYTHING about being an unbiased comparo.

BTW> I'm very happy with mine, happy with the price I paid for it and am most def. NOT employed by racedeck! ;P

Chris
 

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I am definatly pleased w/ my Racedeck (motofloor) product and on top of the fine products, their customer service is second to none!!:bowdown:
 

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I miss my Racedeck floor :(

I moved a few months ago and the wife is keeping me busy with house projects, the garage is down her list of things to do, my Racedeck tiles are sitting in a big pile in the backyard waiting for the day I can empty out the garage and put the floor down, can't wait.
 
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Thanks everyone! :)

Mikeyr - You want to be sure you store your RaceDeck flat while you wait for your wife to give you an open window to install them again.
 

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Jorgen,

Yes, they are flat, a large pile of flat but flat.

I have a few projects left in the house and then its all garage :) soon, very very soon. I hate moving into a very old house that needs a lot of work, built a really nice near 1,000sq.ft. garage but then the wife said "can we move that wall?" and then it was "can we take out that window and put in a patio", in the meantime my big, pretty, new garage sits...

Mike
 

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Hi Jorgen. I might be out of line here, so please excuse me if I am however can I just note a couple of points.

1. You say virtually every competitor outsources to China for mould & manufacturing. Your two main competitors Swisstrax & Autodeck both make their moulds in USA and make the tiles in the US. Swisstrax manufacture in California and Autodeck in New York.

2. You say you have a proprietary single point injection point. Last time I looked on the above manufactures tiles, they both had a single point injection point underneath the tile. Just to kill my curiosity, In the last 5 minutes I have tried to "snap" Your tile and the other two manufacturers tiles over my knee in different ways and all I got was a sore knee !!

3. Powerlock System. Racedeck has 4 interconnecting connectors, Swisstrax 5 and Autodeck 7. Looking at each of the tiles (which I am currently) They all lock together and perform equally but I think having 5 and 7 connectors is better for a tight connection and less likelyhood of seepage between the joins. After all, 5 is 25% more than 4 and 7 is 40% more than 4. In a garage, they all hold together well when tires are turned on them. Just the more connectors - the tighter the grip. And looking at the design of each connector, they all perform for what they are designed and manufactured to do - lock together.

4. Yes Racedeck has a rating of 50 000lbs - greater than Swisstrax and Autodeck. However in 99.9999% of garages, anything over 5000lbs is all that is generally needed ??

5. The use of fillers is common in all injection moulding, including the use of talc. This will effect the properties of the polymer being used, but we need to look at the physical and mechanical properties of the polymer used and the tile to ascertain any negative effect. Looking at the respective data that I can find on the tiles, you would never know if there is or isnt without doing a test on the actual finished tile. Even then it isnt accurate. The data comparing all the tiles makes them suitable for there designed purpose.

6. Comparing mechanical and physical properties of the three tiles, these are based on the polymer used. Very little difference that would effect any performance of the tiles in a garage situation. The polymers you would be using would be an Automotive grade from Basell perhaps, so they are designed for the purpose of the tile.

7. In regards to the volume that Racedeck produce against others, this is a bit hard to substantiate, also is market share. So many tiles with so many avenues to market and as Manufacturers make OEM tiles for COSTCO, Gladiator etc etc etc, it is very difficult to quantify. As for leading tile worldwide, this is again a statement difficult to quantify accuratly.

Jorgen, If I am incorrect in ANY point, please let me know and I will stand corrected on facts.

My point in this is not to knock Racedeck, but look at the facts - not the sales brochure. I think us the readers deserve a factual comparision of products.

But at the end of the day - if the customer is happy with their purchase and the product performs to its designed level - then what else matters ??
 
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I am going to answer some of your questions the best I can within your post below ( In BOLD FOR EASY READING . I am not going to trash any competitor.

Hi Jorgen. I might be out of line here, so please excuse me if I am however can I just note a couple of points.

1. You say virtually every competitor outsources to China for mould & manufacturing. Your two main competitors Swisstrax & Autodeck both make their moulds in USA and make the tiles in the US. Swisstrax manufacture in California and Autodeck in New York. JORGEN - I STATED THAT VIRTUALLY EVERY COMPETITOR OUTSOURCES THEIR MOLD MANUFACTURING 'INCLUDING' CHEAPLY MADE CHINA PRODUCTS. AND THIS IS TRUE! BOTH OF THE COMPETITORS YOU MENTION DO NOT MAKE THEIR OWN MOLD IN HOUSE IN THEIR FACILITY. OF THE TWO YOU MENTION, I DO KNOW THAT SOME OF THEIR MOLDS WERE MADE OVERSEAS. WE ACTUALLY DESIGN AND MANUFACTURE OUR MOLDS RIGHT IN OUR FACILITY...100% IN-HOUSE....HOW DO YOU KNOW WHERE THEY MAKE THEIR MOLDS


2. You say you have a proprietary single point injection point. Last time I looked on the above manufactures tiles, they both had a single point injection point underneath the tile. Just to kill my curiosity, In the last 5 minutes I have tried to "snap" Your tile and the other two manufacturers tiles over my knee in different ways and all I got was a sore knee !! JORGEN- YOU AGAIN ARE NOT EXACTLY STATING WHAT I SAID. I SAID OUR SINGLE POINT INJECTION 'PROCESS' IS PROPIETARY. SORRY ABOUT YOUR KNEE:) BUT I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DEMONSTRATE THIS TO YOU AT ANY SHOW YOU SEE US AT, AND ANY OF THE RACEDECK GIRLS WILL AS WELL.... AND YOUR ARE NOT CORRECT...SWISSTRAX IS MANUFACTURED WITH MULTI-POINT

3. Powerlock System. Racedeck has 4 interconnecting connectors, Swisstrax 5 and Autodeck 7. Looking at each of the tiles (which I am currently) They all lock together and perform equally but I think having 5 and 7 connectors is better for a tight connection and less likelyhood of seepage between the joins. After all, 5 is 25% more than 4 and 7 is 40% more than 4. In a garage, they all hold together well when tires are turned on them. Just the more connectors - the tighter the grip. And looking at the design of each connector, they all perform for what they are designed and manufactured to do - lock together. JORGEN - WE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS LONGER THAN ANYONE... AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT IF PUTTING ON MORE LOCKS WAS BETTER, WE WOULD HAVE DONE SO MANY , MANY YEARS AGO. LOCKS PLAY A MAJOR ROLE IN THE FLOORING SYSTEM FROM EXPANSION AND CONTRACTION NEEDS, TO STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY ONCE ENGAGED. THIS IS WHY YOU SEE SOME OF THE REALLY BAD CHINA TILES WITH 7-9 LOCKS IN AN EFFORT TO KEEP LOCKED AND THE TILE FLAT

4. Yes Racedeck has a rating of 50 000lbs - greater than Swisstrax and Autodeck. However in 99.9999% of garages, anything over 5000lbs is all that is generally needed ?? IT IS WHAT IT IS AND WE LET OUR CUSTOMERS KNOW...AND WE DO NOT ONLY SELL TO RESIDENTIAL GARAGES, IF YOU VIEW OUR GALLERIES YOU WILL SEE BIG RIGS AND PREVOST MOTOR COACHES ON THE RACEDECK AS WELL. I ALSO MENTIONED THAT ONE COMPETITOR CLAIMED THEIR TILES HAVE A GREATER PSI RATING THAN THAT OF INDUSTRIAL GRADE HIGHWAY CONCRETE, THE HIGHEST RATING...NOW THAT IS CRAZY

5. The use of fillers is common in all injection moulding, including the use of talc. This will effect the properties of the polymer being used, but we need to look at the physical and mechanical properties of the polymer used and the tile to ascertain any negative effect. Looking at the respective data that I can find on the tiles, you would never know if there is or isnt without doing a test on the actual finished tile. Even then it isnt accurate. The data comparing all the tiles makes them suitable for there designed purpose. SO, WHO IS FEEDING YOU THIS INFO? FOAMING AGENTS AND FILLERS ARE COMMONLY KNOWN AS JUNK IN THE INDUSTRY... AND WE DON'T USE JUNK IN RACEDECK... SO, WHO DO YOU WORK FOR? OUR WHO IS GIVING YOU THIS KIND OF INFO?

6. Comparing mechanical and physical properties of the three tiles, these are based on the polymer used. Very little difference that would effect any performance of the tiles in a garage situation. The polymers you would be using would be an Automotive grade from Basell perhaps, so they are designed for the purpose of the tile. OUR POLYMER SPEC'S ARE EXCLUSIVE US. SOMEONE IS GIVING YOU SOME INTERESTING STUFF HERE....ARNON MAYBE OR ? :)

7. In regards to the volume that Racedeck produce against others, this is a bit hard to substantiate, also is market share. So many tiles with so many avenues to market and as Manufacturers make OEM tiles for COSTCO, Gladiator etc etc etc, it is very difficult to quantify. As for leading tile worldwide, this is again a statement difficult to quantify accuratly. JORGEN - I AM VERY CONFIDENT ON OUR POSITON... AND FOR THE RECORD THE PRIVATE LABEL YOU MENTION IS ALL MADE BY SNAPLOCK ( US) AND WE ALSO MAKE HARLEY-DAVIDSON AND ABOUT A DOZEN OTHERS...THEY ARE DIFFERENT THAN RACEDECK AND TO THE SPEC OF EACH CUSTOMER

Jorgen, If I am incorrect in ANY point, please let me know and I will stand corrected on facts.

My point in this is not to knock Racedeck, but look at the facts - not the sales brochure. I think us the readers deserve a factual comparision of products. I THINK OUR LONG TERM TRACK RECORD IS WELL KNOWN , THERE HAVE BEEN MANY COMPETITORS WHO HAVE COME AND GONE.

But at the end of the day - if the customer is happy with their purchase and the product performs to its designed level - then what else matters ?? JORGEN- I AGREE WITH YOU HERE....:beer:


OBVIOUSLY WE BELIEVE WE HAVE THE BEST MODULAR GARAGE FLOORING PRODUCTS AND THE MOST EXTENSIVE LINE-UP...AND OUR COMPETITORS BELIEVE THEY DO. IN THE END, IT REALLY IS THE CONSUMER WHO DECIDES AND IF THEY FEEL WE ARE NOT LIVING UP TO THE RACEDECK NAME, THEN WE DO NOT DESERVE THEIR BUSINESS...
 
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GSW= AutoDeck ?
out of curiosity, I went to see your posts ( 6 of them total ) and they are all referring to AutoDeck...I find that interesting? so is this Arnonat eventdeck ? do you work for them?

I have known Arnon at EventDeck ( AutoDeck ) for a long time. I am not too familiar with this specific tile as they do not really come into play very often as a competitor. I am happy to send a sample to anyone free of charge to compare to this product or any other on the market.

cheers :beer:
 

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I can tell you one thing. I recently requested information and samples from both Racedeck and Swisstrax. Upon receiving both packages I can tell you that in my opinion, there is no comparison between the two products. Swisstrax is a far more substantial product than Racedeck. It is thicker, the colors are far more vibrant and brilliant and you can attach an edge tile to a cut Swisstrax tile. The Swisstrax flooring is more expensive, however, but, I think that it is well worth the difference in price. I am sure that many people are very pleased with their Racedeck flooring but if you haven't purchased yet, give Swisstrax a look.
 

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I can tell you one thing. I recently requested information and samples from both Racedeck and Swisstrax. Upon receiving both packages I can tell you that in my opinion, there is no comparison between the two products. Swisstrax is a far more substantial product than Racedeck. It is thicker, the colors are far more vibrant and brilliant and you can attach an edge tile to a cut Swisstrax tile. The Swisstrax flooring is more expensive, however, but, I think that it is well worth the difference in price. I am sure that many people are very pleased with their Racedeck flooring but if you haven't purchased yet, give Swisstrax a look.

I agree with you that someone putting down this type of flooring system should look at both. They were the finalists when I made my decision. From my experience, I can't agree with you about the colors being better with SwissTrax. The silver and blue I used for most of my floor appeared to be equal. What threw my decision to RaceDeck was the ability to fit my desired floor design in my garage while keeping the amount of waste to a minimum. I had to pay for that scrap that's laying on the ground under my saw table.

Both companies have very responsive customer service reps, so getting your questions answered is easy. Get some samples and make your own decision.
 

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Re: RaceDeck Vs. garage trac flooring

what are the differences between the two floorings
 

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I compared Race Deck free flow to Swisstrax free flow and the Race Deck rinsed clean with garden hose and Swisstrax had to be scrubbed with brush. My Race Deck has been in for over a year and we still love it. Garage stays cleaner and that keeps the house cleaner and that keeps my wife happier.
 
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How is that 50,000 lb rolling load calculated? I have a tool box that is on 6 9" x 3" wide casters and it weighs a tick over 10,000 lbs. I cant roll it over my Racedeck Flooring because it pushes the tiles like a wave and the tiles just buckle under the load of my tool box.
 

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bring that toolbox to my house and roll it on my Racedeck, it will be fine and it will roll easily.

Either that or swap some of your lead tools for some made of steel, they will be a lot lighter and a lot stronger.

10,000lbs...right....
 

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bring that toolbox to my house and roll it on my Racedeck, it will be fine and it will roll easily.

Either that or swap some of your lead tools for some made of steel, they will be a lot lighter and a lot stronger.

10,000lbs...right....

You have gotta be on the payroll.
Not a RD thread goes by without you singing the praises...
 

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What kind of temperatures can these tiles withstand? I ask because my wife does some lampwork (hot glass/torch) on occasion in my garage and said something about it needing to withstand 475+ degrees in case some hot glass found it's way off of the stainless table top.
 

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What kind of temperatures can these tiles withstand? I ask because my wife does some lampwork (hot glass/torch) on occasion in my garage and said something about it needing to withstand 475+ degrees in case some hot glass found it's way off of the stainless table top.

They're plastic, and hot glass will burn into them just like weld splatter. They are tough, but not for every application. I had to do a few welds over mine when I put the legs on my workbench, and just put a couple pieces of cardboard over the tiles.
 

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You have gotta be on the payroll.
Not a RD thread goes by without you singing the praises...
I disagree, lots of RD threads go by without me saying anything and sorry I am not on the payroll.

But when someone says something that I believe is blatantly false I say something. I am also the first one to say I am sorry when proven wrong (which happens often). I just don't see how a toolbox can have that much weight in it to begin with and with 6 casters I can't believe it would not roll easily. If I am wrong so be it, I will apologize.

There are people that specifically come on here to knock down Racedeck and I admit I like the product, it has its faults, I have damaged many tiles myself but its not as bad as some people would like to think.


And to the other poster about dropping melted glass, it will melt the tile quickly, so will welding as I can attest.
 

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Hey everybody! Long time garage deweller here! I have been looking for awhile for a tile system for my shop(epoxy is peeling and looks like ****!) I guess I would have to say that seeing is believeing. I was lucky enough to attened the barrett-jackson auction a couple of weeks ago and I would have to say Swisstrax owns it! They're flooring was...well EVERYWHERE! It was hard to find a place that you could not stand on it. It got me thinking on the last day, I was up by the staging lanes and it occured to me that around 1300 cars had ran over it and it still looked brand new! Not near that kind of traffic in my garage. So I thought I would check out the Swisstrax booth at the show. Not only was everyone extremely helpful but I was able to get they're new Swiss Mat Light made right into my floor for under my lift! Best idea Ive seen in awhile. You can drive over it, use a floor jack on it whatever with out damaging the light! Lights up the entire bottom of my car when on the lift or on stands. Also my wife hand to have one of the Light Mats for the front door of the house, they have a bunch of colors so it matchs the house. Im calling it "Best Money I've Spent in Awhile"!
 
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If you put a soft underlayment under a modular floor it allow the floor to compress and you could create a "wave" and push a floor

Electrolite ( -1 poster) - They paid to have their floors their and I can assure you that they do own the floors that you saw and still do. For numerous reasons we as a company choose not to sponsor the BJ show and passed on it. :beer:
 
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You have gotta be on the payroll.
Not a RD thread goes by without you singing the praises...

I can assure you that he is not on the payroll or compensated in anyway and we have never met him. I can say from all the post I have seen over the years, he is an avid garage enthusiast and that is what this forum is all about. :beer:
 
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I like the racedeck look, but I've got about 900sq ft to do and the cost is a bit prohibitive for me to justify compared to refinishing with epoxy. The self draining tiles are neat, but that would just mean I'd have to find a way to clean under them from time to time.
 

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In Jorgen's defense, much of what he says is true (about foreign products). It is also true that companies like Sport Court, AutoDeck, and Swisstrax are all made in the US as well. BUT There is also a lot of stuff that is made over seas. Being made overseas does not automatically make it junk, but there is definitely a lot of it out there.

I don't sell RaceDeck and I don't think I ever have. That said its a good product.

I started in this business with JNK Products (no longer associated)and I have seen a lot of products --many of them have come and gone. I do not believe their is a single silver bullet, no cure for cancer and no product that is perfect for every garage. I also believe that as an industry we are very guilty of fighting for our piece of the pie instead of making the pie bigger.
 

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If you put a soft underlayment under a modular floor it allow the floor to compress and you could create a "wave" and push a floor

Ok, if Jorgen says its possible with a underlayment, I will apologize and admit I may have been wrong. I would not bother with underlayment and anything i have ever moved around on my floor has done so without a wave. Another good reason to not put underlayment down IN MY OPINION.
 

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I have just finished putting down a Swisstrax Ribtrax floor and I can tell you, I couldn't be happier. It is a real quality floor. I am sure other brands are good also, but this Swisstrax floor is the nicest one I have ever seen. Their customer service is also first class. Traci and Jesse are great to work with and will get back to you in a timely fashion every time.
Swisstrax is also about to introduce a Swiss Light Mat that can be integrated right into a Swisstrax floor or used as a stand alone mat. It uses LED's, is available in various sizes, and can be made in Swisstrax colors. Cars can run right over it. It might solve a problem for those of us who need more light under a lift. I can't wait to order one for my garage. I'll post some pics when I get it.
 
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Jperaino -
In our event flooring division we offer a integrated LED floor light system called 'SnapLights' ( lights dances floors, portable walkways, et) .
Knowing the garage enviroment like we do, we would never sell an electrical product in a floor system where gas and countless other flammable chemicals (and corrosive) could be exposed to it. While our system is 100% water-proof and used in outdoor events, I would not risk even the slightest chance of having an exposed electrical connection in a garage enviroment ( from a pinched wire, chemical corrosion causing exposure, etc.)
 
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I like the racedeck look, but I've got about 900sq ft to do and the cost is a bit prohibitive for me to justify compared to refinishing with epoxy. The self draining tiles are neat, but that would just mean I'd have to find a way to clean under them from time to time.

You should send us an email and get a quote with you GJ discount. contact Jennifer at [email protected] , you might be surprised how affordable it is . :beer:
 

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Noobie to the forum. I Just installed the Race Deck Flooring yesterday. :thumbup: I was quoted more for Swisstrax. I was working with Dunja and Ashley. :thumbup:

Sorry but for some reason I can't upload my photos. :mad:
 
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I hope to have a new house in Draper again. Just wondering if you guys have a show room or offer design help?

Hello John - Even better, you can come by our offices/factory and see all of our products and even watch them being made. We have RaceDeck in the lobby under the RaceDeck Salt Rod ( the fastest 4cyl street roadster in the world).
Give us a call and let us know you are on the way.
 
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