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jfish

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I just nabbed 3 lengths of rail all 36" long. Had 4 however a fellow walked by and asked for one.

I am a heavy equipment operator and trenched down a street in Seattle, through old trolley tracks. Most likely turn of the century track, cant wait to cut a length down to 18" or so.
 

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I want to buy a rail chunk to use as an anvil. The shop sells some pre-cut chunk ~12'-13' in length of P38 or P43 rails (85-98 lbs/m), so the chunks are ~30-35 lbs. Do you guys think that it is a good size?
 

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I started out with one before I bought my 200lb anvil. I still use it and found that it works well for forming sheet metal.
 

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I have a nice 1870s era Fisher anvil for occasional blacksmithing duties. But for a solid steel surface just to beat on, I have this chunk of rail that I cleaned up and painted. It comes in handy around the shop.
 

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Asking price on CL here in Austin for that piece would be well over $100. Not sure people are paying that but that's what the sellers are asking for 'em. I would definitely have bought it.
 

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I can quickly buy at 1usd/1 kg. By carefully looking around I can find rails at 0.4 usd/kg but it takes times and must be lucky.

Asking price on CL here in Austin for that piece would be well over $100. Not sure people are paying that but that's what the sellers are asking for 'em. I would definitely have bought it.


Thanks.

That is a very good size.


Nice.
I have a nice 1870s era Fisher anvil for occasional blacksmithing duties. But for a solid steel surface just to beat on, I have this chunk of rail that I cleaned up and painted. It comes in handy around the shop.

Nice suggestion.
I started out with one before I bought my 200lb anvil. I still use it and found that it works well for forming sheet metal.
 

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I work for nationally known railroad. I have several in my shop. The way you can tell how much it ways is looking on the side of the web. Not on all the pieces that are cut, But, if you get lucky you will see 90, 100, 132,136. This means that every 3 feet of that rail weights 90 pounds,100 pounds and so on. Railroad rail is premium steel.
 

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If you lived closer to me I could get you all you heart desired. We have piles of scrap laying around. " Tip " Find a local railroad depot near you and talk to the roadmaster and ask him would let you have a piece or two. Most railroaders are approachable. Offer him a 6pack for his trouble.
 

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If you lived closer to me I could get you all you heart desired. We have piles of scrap laying around. " Tip " Find a local railroad depot near you and talk to the roadmaster and ask him would let you have a piece or two. Most railroaders are approachable. Offer him a 6pack for his trouble.

There is a sizable rail yard/train maintenance facility in my town. Stopped by there yesterday and inquired. Flat no from them when I asked about buying a piece even though I see piles of it cut into 3' ish lengths. Oh well.
 

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I think you can buy one here: very nice

He sells 10 inches raw anvil at 20 usd, and an 12 inches fully finished at about 70 usd.
https://m.facebook.com/trackanvil/

There is a sizable rail yard/train maintenance facility in my town. Stopped by there yesterday and inquired. Flat no from them when I asked about buying a piece even though I see piles of it cut into 3' ish lengths. Oh well.
 
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I was doing a large land survey job, maybe 20 years ago, along a section of railroad track. Found an 18"-ish length of rail with a 1" hole crudely torched through the web, laying in the bushes and partially buried. It was off the right-of-way, so fair game to me. Problem was, I had a survey instrument, tripod and a pack full of gear, and I was almost a mile from my truck. That was a hard trip back for a fat guy. I have it setting on the stone wall next to my basement door in case I ever need something to use as an anvil. Someday I'll clean it up and put it in the shop.
 

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Also don;t flip the track over the steel on top is harder (but more brittle) than the steel on the bottom (softer but more give/flex) Hence why when they join/repair a rail they use a premade crucible that has the hardened crown as well as the softer metal that is turned molten all done by thermite.


Brian
 
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Hmmm, For as many times as I've posted in this tread, I never did post my RR anvil or track pieces! ::wtf:

Is there another Track Anvil thread? :headscrat

Anyway, rectifying my omission: :pimpflash

I Picked this one up about 4 years ago at a yard sale as part of a deal with a Wilton vise, so maybe 5-10 bucks worth of that? (or free as the Wilton was worth several times the total cost)

I have used it for one hot forging job and a couple of cold forming jobs. I just hit it real quick tonight with the belt sander to see how it would clean up and it looks like it will clean up pretty nice once I dig in.

Weighs just under 14-1/2 lbs, (it's NOT the std train rail - much lighter) and exactly 16 inches long.. Whoever did it did a pretty nice job, and the Hardie hole was a nice added feature; you don't see many fabbed RR anvils with that. Its a tad smaller at 3/4", vs. my 100 pound Mc's and 7/8"

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I've also picked up a number of small light gauge track pieces, two of which someone spend an inordinate amount of time cleaning them up! the larger of those two is a presentation piece from the San Francisco-Oakland Bay bridge rails from when they were removed about 1960.

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All of these are very light, even lighter than the Anvil piece which is light, and no two are the same weight. Maybe someday I'll find a piece that is the more normal big train track pieces.

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I think you can buy one here: very nice

He sells 10 inches raw anvil at 20 usd, and an 12 inches fully finished at about 70 usd.
https://m.facebook.com/trackanvil/

So the wife ordered one of these for my birthday. 1913 Carnegie rail. Can't wait to get it. Now I'm looking for another to actually use. The stuff from this guy is almost too pretty. lol...

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Mine is 1880 vintage light mainline British made Alemite steel rail. A modern tie plate and big cedar tie cutoff make a pretty solid if rustic setup.
 

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My opinion? They're awfully light, but for light work, as long as they're ancient, well used, and as such extremely work hardened, they are amazing. I have 2 - one mainline SP rail from the Carnegie mills probably in the 20's, one light rail from Bethlehem from the 30's. Both are amazing, they're still not like a *real* anvil, but damn, if I had nothing else, I could abuse that hunk of railroad steel until it was a swaleback.
 

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Let’s revive this old thread.

I have 2

The smaller one with the vise on top is 6 1/2 inches long

The other one is 9 1/2 inches long. I picked it up at an estate sale for $8
Was this some kind of demonstration model or shop class exercise to show welding? Is this the result of thermite welding? :dunno:
 

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Old post, but this guy is only 30 or so minutes from me. Hopefully he's still doing this. Just messaged him for an order.

If you do, like others have suggested, ask for the most used (high traffic) rail that he has, they're better and more hardened. Also ask for the widest (like a 175 Crane) and flattest top, it will be well worth paying a little more for that compared to some I'm seeing in his photo's, they'll be way more practical and usable. Also, I would avoid the long overhang railroad anvils, they look cool but don't make for very good anvils.
 
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macgee has given excellent advice. I have tried to file a piece of old rail and it seemed as though the hardness of the rail was about the same as the hardness of the file.

The number he mentioned and that you see elsewhere refers to the weight of a piece one yard (36 inches) long.

So a piece of Crane 175 one foot long would be 58 pounds. That’s a nice chunk for the top of your workbench.
 

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If you do, like others have suggested, ask for the most used (high traffic) rail that he has, they're better and more hardened. Also ask for the widest (like a 175 Crane) and flattest top, it will be well worth paying a little more for that compared to some I'm seeing in his photo's, they'll be way more practical and usable. Also, I would avoid the long overhang railroad anvils, they look cool but don't make for very good anvils.

macgee has given excellent advice. I have tried to file a piece of old rail and it seemed as though the hardness of the rail was about the same as the hardness of the file.

The number he mentioned and that you see elsewhere refers to the weight of a piece one yard (36 inches) long.

So a piece of Crane 175 one foot long would be 58 pounds. That’s a nice chunk for the top of your workbench.
Thank you gentlemen!

I haven't heard back - no idea if he's still operating, but will definitely ask about the things mentioned.
 
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