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Rainwater coming in Mr Heater horizontal

Cochise

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Installed a 50k natural gas Mr heater Big Maxx . The local supplier I bought the horizontal B vent from sold me a round termination cap that you'd use for vertical, and stated that's what everyone uses for horizontal vents. Theres no evestrough above and with the upward vent slope I get dripping water from rain or snow melt. I fashioned a small piece of alum flashing over the screen part but still a small leak coming inside. Can I replace the cap with an elbow or any suggestions?
 
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A downward slope is the way I would have thought to do it, but the instructions showed sloping up 1/4" per foot, apparently so any fumes would rise up the slope and out.??
 

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My neighbor had the same problem, so we put a 45 degree elbow on it, and he hasn't had any problems.
 

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The manual is unclear about upward rise, but does address this issue:
The Manual said:
4. Select a wall termination point that will maintain ¼” rise per
foot slope of horizontal run of vent pipe. The vent may be
single wall material minimum 26 GSG (0.46mm) galvanized
steel or equivalent grade stainless steel. Seal single wall vent
material according to the section A - General
Recommendations and Requirements.
5. For upward sloped vent a condensate tee and drain must be
installed within the first 5’ (1.5m) from the unit heater to
protect the appliance. If a flexible condensate drain line is
used, the drain line must include a loop entering the structure.
If the unit is shut down for an extended period of time and
will be exposed to sub-freezing temperatures, the condensate
may freeze.

The manual doesn't specify the direction to measure the rise. Their directions ****.
 
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The manual has drawings that show it sloped upward. Here the code was a single wall pipe from the heater into a b vent double through the wall. It leaks where the double wall joins an adapter to transition it to the single wall. The drain line would have to be in the double wall which they tell you not to pierce ( the pieces lock together ). Maybe I'm over engineering it. I'll try a 90 deg elbow up outside and the cap on that.
 
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To the OP, Your vent is installed correctly (regarding to the upward pitch). You need a rain/wind termination cap.

Mine has had snow buildup and driving rain. It's even mounted on a northeast wall and have never had any water entrance issues nor do I recall seeing any posts on the issue.
 

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One must wonder why you are suggesting exactly the opposite that the manufacturer requires! :dunno: Read my post above, with the direct quote from the installation instructions...

The manufacturer wants to protect its equipment from corrosion at any expense. Unless we're talking about a 96% efficient condensing furnace (and we're not), a drain line on a flue is nothing short of a band aid. It doesn't fix the problem. I've installed hundreds of power vented natural gas furnaces and have never installed a drain on the flue. B vent + proper pitch + proper termination = no need for drainage.
 

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One must wonder why you are suggesting exactly the opposite that the manufacturer requires! :dunno: Read my post above, with the direct quote from the installation instructions...

Do we really need to reargue this point AGAIN? :deadhorse

The manual doesn't specify the direction to measure the rise. Their directions ****.

YES IT DOES.
4. The vent must maintain a ¼” rise per foot of slope upwards
toward the termination.
 
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