I never said that they were bought at the same time.Mismatched years.
The point is, I like polished wrenches
I saw a Williams raised panel combo a couple of months ago. I had never seen one before. When did Williams offer those?
The JH Williams panels are by no means the oldest, but probably some of the rarest. AA has them at circa 1954-1959, with 1959 being the onset of the swan-song flat-shank style (of which a gazillion were made, deep into the 90s).I saw a Williams raised panel combo a couple of months ago. I had never seen one before. When did Williams offer those?
The raised panel and raised panel only.I saw a Williams raised panel combo a couple of months ago. I had never seen one before. When did Williams offer those?
NOT ok.I never said that they were bought at the same time.
Read my post carefully
Now, read it again
The first part: "Had most of this set since the 80's...." -Bought the 10mm-19mm off the truck in the 80's.
The second half of the statement: "....and early 90's" -filled in the rest of the set, to the best of my memory, in the early 90's
.....ok?
I do not accept this.It better be![]()
I believe others have alluded to a possible connection with the Craftsman panel wrenches and the J. H. Williams panels (probably in the JH Williams and/or Craftsman V threads). I don't think anything definitive was decided, but there's no getting around the similarity. It's hard for me to believe that JH Williams would have sourced wrenches from Moore or anyone else. But, did Craftsman source panels from JH Williams? And why did JH Williams abruptly cancel their panels? Apologies if the answers are old common knowledge.When I saw that one, which I think was an 11/16, my first thought was Craftsman -V- because it looked exactly like the classic raised-panels from the 1950's. Perhaps sourced from Moore Drop Forge?


The raised panels do improve grip....they were added for what their maker's intended to be a combination of aesthetics and improved grip. Even forged-in branding has a history of dual-use as grip.
Yup. Sunken panels, too. And branding. See DBEs in last pic last post. Anything that adds texture, raised or in relief, to the smooth surface.The raised panels do improve grip.
In very tight spaces I can also see how it may help in positioning the wrench with out droping. Not common at all, but I can think of a few times I had to do that with my finger tips.The way combinations wrenches are typically used, is grip really important? Knuckles generally get busted from the wrench slipping on the work, not the hand slipping on the wrench.
Probably 90% of my combination wrenches are seventies era raised-panel Craftsmen, but I like the few Snap-Ons I have better.
In very tight spaces I can also see how it mayIn very tight spaces I can also see how it may help in positioning the wrench with out droping. Not common at all, but I can think of a few times I had to do that with my finger tips.
Coolant and oil can make a wrench, socket, ratchet super slick.The way combinations wrenches are typically used, is grip really important? Knuckles generally get busted from the wrench slipping on the work, not the hand slipping on the wrench.
Probably 90% of my combination wrenches are seventies era raised-panel Craftsmen, but I like the few Snap-Ons I have better.
Really?Coolant and oil can make a wrench, socket, ratchet super slick.
You asked if grip was important.Really?
so you prefer 15 offset with reverse combo wrench,right?Combination wrenches I like the smooth chrome Snap-On's, but I have more raised panel stuff.
It's those sh*t-grade rachets with the knurled handles I can't stand!
The poll needs another category: I-beam with satin (Stahlwille, Facom 440, etc.)Both!
I like the "I" beam style for when hands are especially greasy....
The "smooth" style for "neat" work..
I like the Wright satin finish.
You have me at a disadvantage...so you prefer 15 offset with reverse combo wrench,right?