Ran out of wire ties

[Cardboard Man]

Um, aluminum, especially in contact with steel cages, will corrode. Corrode badly.

Good lord, don't be so dramatic . While I'm aware of the chemical reaction between dissimilar metals, I recommended aluminum wire for this application because I know from experience that it will do the job. I have used it for years in my garden and yard for various tasks - even with welded wire fence *gasp* and it has never failed due to corrosion. The best part is that it can be removed and repositioned, unlike zip ties which are single use. The man just wants to build some simple blueberry cages, he's not engineering a skyscraper.

 

[Firebrick43]

Good lord, don't be so dramatic . While I'm aware of the chemical reaction between dissimilar metals, I recommended aluminum wire for this application because I know from experience that it will do the job. I have used it for years in my garden and yard for various tasks - even with welded wire fence *gasp* and it has never failed due to corrosion. The best part is that it can be removed and repositioned, unlike zip ties which are single use. The man just wants to build some simple blueberry cages, he's not engineering a skyscraper.

Dramatic? I didn't USE ALL CAPS, nor have a little rolled eyes emoji. Or asterisk around supposed sounds of surprise like you. "*gasp*. Or make statements like "engineering a skyscraper"

I made a statement of fact, pure and simple

Please don't add in emotion to my post, because other than a chuckle from this one there was none.

I will leave the dramatics to you sally.

 

[FredWanaker]

oh Lord. Please help those who don't know the difference between wire ties and wire pay more attention in class next time. WIRE TIES.

I am getting them at Lowes next time I am down there, and will live with whatever they have. Too much trouble to order on line and wait weeks to get them at exorbitant shipping costs. I do THANK everyone who made suggestions on where to get them, especially the Thomas and Betts. That said, if I need safety wire to tie something together I have stainless wire, and a safety wire tying tool already. I also have black steel wire, and plenty of aluminum ties. I also have stainless wire ties. What I wanted was UV resistant plastic based wire ties because I am out and those are the easiest for me to use.

 

[Firebrick43]

Fred, I dont think you know the difference. Rebar ties have been called double loop "wire ties" long before "Tywraps" aka "zip ties" came out. Many are now mistakingly calling "tywraps" / "zip ties" wire ties, including you. Don't berate others on terminology when you have it wrong yourself.

Also, why ask a question about UV resistant zip ties if all you are going to buy is the cheap Chinese ones at Lowes?

 

[FredWanaker]

Yes - Rebar ties use a little handle thing to quickly twist. You tie rebar together before pouring concrete by slipping the tool thru the two eyes and spinning it to hold the rebar together or to the blocks that hold it up off the ground before the pour. Yes I have used those for that purpose when I was down in Islamorada FL helping a friend build a house 30 years ago. I don't want to use those for my purpose but they could be.

I asked because I was hoping someone had a suggestion that would be better than Lowes. I found Thomas and Betts on Amazon at a good price but delivery is way out. I found them and others at places that wanted close to $20 for shipping as a minimum unless I spent several hundred dollars there. I gave up and said F--- It I will just get them at Lowes. Tired of trying to find them online at a reasonable price and delivery time. Some of the links provided won't even add to the cart when one clicks them to add to the cart. There are only so many times I am going to try to buy wire ties online before I give up, and I am done searching for them. Thank you for your suggestions. Your suggestions are good. I am just worn out trying to find things that don't want to be found unless I spend far more than they are worth to me.

I did not intend to seem ungrateful for any suggestions. I am thankful for each person who offers to help.

 

[Firebrick43]

You have several electrical supply houses in Yuba city CA. Platte is a nationally named company that I know but there are others as well. They should(my local supply housed does) have thomas and betts "tywraps". Get the ones with stainless lock tabs. They are the best there is.

Warning, some supply houses don't like dealing with non professionals. Dress in jeans and a Tee shirt, not penny Loffers and a Hawaiian shirt. Know exactly what you want (research online) and ask for it like you do and you shouldn't have a problem.

 

[cpttuna]

I use solid copper electrical wire as "Ty-wraps"

do you get anywhere special?

 

[lilredex]

do you get anywhere special?

No, just regular household wire, with the insulation.

 

[FredWanaker]

could not get by Lowe's today so I ordered some from McMasterCarr that are designed for solar systems and other harsh environments. Came to $41 for 150 of 7 and 11 inch. Thank you all for your suggestions. Surprisingly, when I went to order the 7" ones, it came up I have ordered them before from there. The last batch held up well in the sun but I did not know where I got them. Thank you again.

 

[rancherbill]

Black Nylon Ties (tyraps) Get the real brand they use a stainless steel tang.

The ordinary black ones will fail if there is stress on the joint. They are OK to use to hold wires but not for anything that has stresses.

 

[laser3kw]

Use plain old tie wire or fence wire. Easy to wrap and unwrap. Last all year and don't fail