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SMOKEYBEAR

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8" adjustable USA wrench, Original price $40.69, sale price shows $16.28, and ends up $8.14 in the cart.
 
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netbrad

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I posted this in the new tool arrivals thread but here are mine that I got today:
 

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The three that I received today all suffer from the adjustment screw being 1 to 2 mm shorter than the width of the slot it rides in. This makes for a sloppy adjustment. That's the most significant fault that I see. Milling marks are visible on one jaw. I would not say they are worth the $50 list price. All are stamped "USA".

Two equivalents in my collection: a 40 or so year old Craftsman Japan and a recent Crescent USA (HJ Epstein, unknown vintage) do not suffer from this loose screw syndrome (LSS).
 
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The three that I received today all suffer from the adjustment screw being 1 to 2 mm shorter than the width of the slot it rides in. This makes for a sloppy adjustment. That's the most significant fault that I see. Milling marks are visible on one jaw. I would not say they are worth the $50 list price. All are stamped "USA".

Two equivalents in my collection: a 40 or so year old Craftsman Japan and a recent Crescent USA (HJ Epstein, unknown vintage) do not suffer from this loose screw syndrome (LSS).
Mine is the same. It's not a terrible wrench, it's totally usable. But the older USA Crescent and modern Japanese Lobster/Lob-Tec examples are nicer. Sad to see the decline in USA quality, but not a bad purchase for $8.

Somewhere along the line, American companies put less emphasis on pride and quality control and more on "good enough to work" and the price. I don't think that served them well in the long run. Western Forge is no more, SK is bought out by the Chinese, while Snap-On is still going strong. I guess it's hard to survive if you're not a premium USA brand.
 

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Mine is the same. It's not a terrible wrench, it's totally usable. But the older USA Crescent and modern Japanese Lobster/Lob-Tec examples are nicer. Sad to see the decline in USA quality, but not a bad purchase for $8.
I agree, it's not bad for $8.00. Hope my brother feels that it's not bad for free when one of them ends up on his porch next month. :)
 
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SMOKEYBEAR

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Mine got delivered today, 1 is decent, equally as good as some older USA Craftsman I have. They missed the mark on the other one, for $8 I'll find the proper use for it.
 

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This is 3 of the 4 I ordered l. Major issue is the lack of a spring washer along the worm gear which i think is why it's losing adjustment
 

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PlantItDeep

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Same here - mine arrived and all are identical in this aspect (sloppy adustment)

I also noticed that the bolt which holds the worm gear in is riveted style/crimped in as opposed to more traditional Crescent style screw.
So removing them to shim will be a darn nuisance

Not impressed SK

I will keep mine purely because they're a handy size and probably the last made in USA ones
But ****** failure by SK
 

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This is the sort of thing that, very unfortunately, makes it increasingly difficult to support US manufacturing. And I want to. But imagine having paid the $40 list price for one of these?

I was going to buy a few, but based on the feedback, I'm not even going to buy these at $8.
 

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Good news for you then because purchasing these adjustable wrenches in no way supported US manufacturing. The last factory that produced adjustable wrenches in the US was western forge and they closed shop 5 years ago. SK was bought by the Chinese company Hangzhou GreatStar Industrial. Buying these wrenches didn't help any US worker or US company stay in business, that ship already sailed. If you bought these at msrp years ago it would be supporting US manufacturing, but now you are just getting a discount on stuff being liquidated,

I got 2, the jaws line up ok but the lack of spring to take up the slop in the adjuster worm is disappointing.
 

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The last factory that produced adjustable wrenches in the US was western forge and they closed shop 5 years ago.
Correct.

KOAA News said:
KOAA News5 StaffPosted at 6:18 PM, Feb 19, 2020 and last updated 11:40 AM, Feb 20, 2020

COLORADO SPRINGS — A long time tool manufacturer in Colorado Springs is planning to shut its doors sometime this spring.

Western Forge, on Garden of the Gods Rd., announced they will close upon the completion of existing orders.

Michael Gross, with Ideal Industries Inc, said in a statement "the company says the major reason for the closure is the Western Forge facility made tools for other companies as well,
including Craftsman brand tools, until Sears sold that division almost four years ago and its manufacturing was moved offshore."

164 employees will receive severance packages including salary, health care and outplacement benefits provided they do not leave for another job before their separation date.

Western Forge, which has been in Colorado Springs for 54 years, is part of the ideal industries, which is consolidating its operations in the U.S.

Here is the full statement:

IDEAL INDUSTRIES, INC. is planning to close its Western Forge hand tool manufacturing facility and will be winding down production after they have fulfilled all current customer orders.
Western Forge’s 164 employees will receive severance packages including salary, health care and outplacement benefits provided they do not leave for another job before their separation
date. IDEAL will also provide access to job fairs to help employees find their next opportunity.

Western Forge, which has been in Colorado Springs for 54 years, is part of the ideal industries, which is consolidating its operations in the U.S.

The company remains committed to its “Made in America” position for SK Professional Tools, IDEAL Electrical tools and the other tool brands in its portfolio.
The company will consolidate manufacturing for some of its brands (e.g. SK Professional Tools) to its Sycamore, Illinois community, where they plan to add manufacturing positions.

There will be opportunities for relocation to other IDEAL facilities for Western Forge talent as part of the transition; those who qualify for positions will be given priority consideration.

The Western Forge facility made tools for other companies as well, including Craftsman brand tools, until Sears sold that division almost four years ago and its manufacturing was
moved offshore. IDEAL and its Western Forge employees tried to streamline operations and offset the loss of the Craftsman volume for years but were not able to offset the loss enough
to sustain the plant. The U.S. hand tool business overall has continued to shift largely to offshore manufacturing. IDEAL remains one of only three companies to manufacture the
majority of its tools in the United States.


"This was a long and carefully considered decision,” said IDEAL’s CEO Steve Henn. “Our Western Forge employees delivered high quality product and did everything we asked of them to help
us maintain the business. We just couldn’t survive the impact from the Craftsman move.” Attempts by IDEAL to sell the facility were unsuccessful

(* emphasis added *)

Photo of Proto model 708 below. These were manufactured by Western Forge in Colorado Springs. I bought the last two from Nelson Bowers. Photo is from November 2018.
Note that @netbrad 's example above is marked with the "W F" forging mark (post #19)

Looks like they were using the same dies but they just couldn't manage to get that "fit and finish" part right. 100% QC failure.

I do not recall these being faulty (or "sloppy") in any way. @Smokeshow69 owns one of them now - not sure who got the other one.
 

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I believe Snap- on started making some again too. They don’t seem superior to non-US versions in any regard.
 

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So is SK a new USA company?

Think they will keep improving the design to compete with all the top notch imports???
 

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Received mine on Friday. Some are definitely better than others, but overall they are pretty sloppy. These will be good enough for the kids and to keep in the camper.
 

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Received mine on Friday. Some are definitely better than others, but overall they are pretty sloppy. These will be good enough for the kids and to keep in the camper.

first tool for them to learn how to swear with :ROFLMAO:

I hated adjustable wrenches, until I bought the Milwaukee's. They are so much better than every other one out there. Zero slop. I often find myself having to loosen the jaws to remove.
 
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