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Myers77

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Hey guys, Been a member for a while haven't posted much but have read in length a lot and learned a lot from here. You guys have been an inspiration for me to get my garage in better shape.

I'm looking to get a panel out there first. It seems I have 2 12/3 wires coming in and then to a junction where everything is ran. I have ran a few more outlets for what i needed at the time. I do a lot of car work and after this winter i need heat. I have a company coming out next week to give me a quote on a panel. The 2 lines coming into the garage are from the houses panel and they are on the same breaker as my living room. :mad:

The questions I'm having are on the insulation. My joists are 4 feet apart. I'm trying to figure out to hang drywall i figure i can put 2x4's between them to help support the drywall but on the ends would i do the same?

Don't mind the back wall, I just put a temp wall up last year that will be taken down and put back right.

here are a few pics to get an idea.

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any help very much appreciated.

Thanks, Steve
 
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Boyd

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Could you run an extra joist between each existing pair? I think I would try that before trying the 2x4 thing. That would also provide you with the possibility of creating attic storage by just adding some decking.
 
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Dick in Wisconsin

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What is the span? What is the pitch on the roof? Does the roof have actual trusses? Or onsite fabricated rafters and joists? Iowa so you have snow and wind loads to be worried about. Another poster suggested putting in an extra joist between the existing ones, which is the first thing I thought of. But then I thought about loads and stuff. I would recommend talking to a truss engineer or finding a web site that will allow you to take the roof framing you have and give you an idea of what kind of loads it will take. I am concerned that your roof framing might be "light". I'm just used to seeing more lumber up there. I'm all for cutting (the right) corners and saving money ... but you don't want to spend a bunch of time and money on your garage and end up with everything in a pile on top of your stuff in the dead of winter.

There might be a truss engineer or someone familiar with building codes that address garage framing requirements that can speak knowledgeably about this.
 
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Myers77

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Thanks for the responses, I was thinking it was for light load as well. I took a few more picture and it doesn't seem there is much support. I have thought about ripping the roof and rafters on and redoing it but i know it will lead to re-framing the walls and then ill want new cement lol. I would like to do it right though. I'm not sure on the pitch but i only have 4 joists. Here are a few pics to give you a better idea.

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This last picture is the span from the front of the garage to the first joist.

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Myers77

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You can see I have some water damage which seems to be from a gap between the flashing* and another part that I should have fixed this summer. Gutters are also very shallow and water will overflow when its not even blocked.
 
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Myers77

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these look like thrown together joists. Im guessing and correct me if im wrong i can just add 1 joist inbetween the ones that are there. to make it 2 ft on center would that allow for me to inusulate without having to worry about the place caving in .
 

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That's what I would do. Your rafters look to be 24" on center, but they only connected every other pair with a joist. So yeah, I'd connect every rafter pair with a joist, then run a 2x4 king post from the center of each joist up to the ridge beam.
 
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