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chrislehr

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Made in USA preferred, but not critical in decision. Want to be able to use this for a house gutter project as well as when I get into welding and metal work as well. Prefer something that comes with a selection of rivets already - but I think this might be part of the selection decision that is impeding progress.

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I believe Marson has been mentioned here as a quality brand. From the pics on their site, it appears the tools are made in USA. Pics here :

Marson HP-2 http://www.alcoa.com/fastening_systems/commercial/en/product.asp?cat_id=633&prod_id=1059

Swivel Head http://www.alcoa.com/fastening_systems/commercial/en/product.asp?cat_id=633&prod_id=1087


And you wanted a Kit, shown here with the HP-2 and 200 rivets in varying sizes: http://www.alcoa.com/fastening_systems/commercial/en/product.asp?cat_id=1502&prod_id=1072

I'm looking to get a Marson once my second stanley wears out.:thumbup:
 

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I have a Swingline rotating head model, that has worked well for me; I believe it is made by Arrow.

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Its the Arrow: "RHT300™Twister Rivet Tool", this particular model I think is rebadged and sold under a number of other brands.

Twister Rivet Tool
All steel construction
Unique riveter head twists 360 degrees.
Durable all steel construction.
Comfortable vinyl grip.
Spring loaded handle for easy loading.
Extended nose for hard to get at places.
Hi-Viz non slip grip handle.
Lock clip when not in use.
Includes four nose pieces and wrench. 4 Rivet sizes: 3/32", 1/8", 5/32", 3/16".
Never use stainless steel rivets in the RHT300

http://www.arrowfastener.com/products/rivet_tools/79055008026/

That model, is probably not considered a professional tool; if you want pro, the Marson is probably the way to go.

A previous discussion is here:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22602&highlight=large+rivet+tool
 
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Just so you know, the Snap-on kit is made by Marson. Same item for more money. I have a regular Snap-on Marson kit, and one of the Marson swivel head units. If I had to pick one, I'd definitely opt for the swivel head.

These guns are fine unless you plan on using something other than aluminum rivets. I think you might even break one of these guns using stainless rivets. I have broken other small guns with these. What you really want for these is a Marson Big Daddy rivet gun. Much more leverage. I have one of these, and it makes all the difference for steel rivets. I am still undecided as to whether the stanard or extended tip is more usefull. I also have another long handled gun with a bit different design, (can't remember who made it at this moment) so Marson is not the only game in town.

Also, don't forget a nutsert kit.
 
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I have a Swingline rotating head model, that has worked well for me; I believe it is made by Arrow.

972rht300.jpg


Its the Arrow: "RHT300™Twister Rivet Tool", this particular model I think is rebadged and sold under a number of other brands.

Twister Rivet Tool
All steel construction
Unique riveter head twists 360 degrees.
Durable all steel construction.
Comfortable vinyl grip.
Spring loaded handle for easy loading.
Extended nose for hard to get at places.
Hi-Viz non slip grip handle.
Lock clip when not in use.
Includes four nose pieces and wrench. 4 Rivet sizes: 3/32", 1/8", 5/32", 3/16".
Never use stainless steel rivets in the RHT300

http://www.arrowfastener.com/products/rivet_tools/79055008026/

That model, is probably not considered a professional tool; if you want pro, the Marson is probably the way to go.

A previous discussion is here:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22602&highlight=large+rivet+tool



I have had that one for a number of years
works great

bob
 

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Marson is good. Also used an older Bostitch which was surprisingly good, better than some more expensive ones I've broken.

I dislike the swivels. Maybe it's just the brand of one I used, but it was way way too difficult to pop for 3/16" rivets. And found it awkward to handle. But maybe it's just me...
 

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I personally wouldn't get the swivel head because it is much more bulky and will not get into tight places. Had a guy about a week ago need my rivet puller because his was slightly too big.
 

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Don't get the one sold by Advance Auto. I bought the best one they had, with four sizes of tips. I used it last year with the smallest tip. Then, just yesterday, I used the third size tip and broke the handle with the second rivit and wasn't really squeezing hard. The handle was CAST. My old Montgomery Ward one lasted for years, until the jaws would no long grip the rivet.
 

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I have an air-riveter for sale with with a thousand rivets for $50.00 (+ $11.00 shipping) if anyone is interested. PM for info.
 
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we use pneumatic ones at work they are about 300 but they will pull anything you want then i have the swivel head one above rebadged MAC it only cost $35 a few years ago and it will do aluminum rivets very easily
 
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Yes, opening a old thread, why not... Marson SP-1 (swivel head) and HP-2 (standard head) are made in Taiwan ever since Alcoa bought them out a couple of years ago. The Stoughton, MA plant is closed. The nose pieces from these two tools are not interchangeable, I suspect the thread size is the reason, Alcoa told me the threads are non-standard, they created their own thread, which I don't believe. Measuring the threads on a knockoff SP-1 is 8mm x 1.25. The HP-2 probably has Imperial threads, can someone measure this and post it.

Marson does not offer longer reach nose-pieces according to Alcoa and says either tool will set SS rivets. I have set SS 1/8" (#4) with SS mandrels with the knockoff model without a problem.

Stanley POP brand does offers long reach nose pieces and they have a nice selection, the threads are 3/8-24, but which tools they fit I am unsure.



The decline in USA manufacturing in the last 6 years is horrific and disgusting:(, taxes and insurance requirements have done a tremendous toll.
 

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I have an air-riveter for sale with with a thousand rivets for $50.00 (+ $11.00 shipping) if anyone is interested. PM for info.
This is a great deal and what I would choose if I didn't already have pretty much the same gun. When I was building racecars it was WAY easier to use than a manually operated rivet gun. Depends on how much you plan to use one, what type you buy.
 

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This is a great deal and what I would choose if I didn't already have pretty much the same gun. When I was building racecars it was WAY easier to use than a manually operated rivet gun. Depends on how much you plan to use one, what type you buy.
Yep. I did some assembly work 10 years ago or so and the pneumatics make you question your use of one with handles. Isn't it funny the attractiveness of goods that were for sale years ago? :eek:
 

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Hanson PRP-26A HEAVY DUTY. Used mine for years, thousands of painted stainless rivets. Only onp rebuild. Not cheap but will last a life time.
 

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I went down this road last year. I also was looking for a USA Marson HP-2 kit. I managed to find a new old stock USA made Marson HP-2 kit on eBay. It's a quality tool that will last a lifetime and then some.

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They're out there if you look hard enough.
 
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How about a kit or gun or rivet set that does the flush back side rivets? Not the mushroomed sorts for blind holes, something you might use to fabricate metal trays for a tool box or other areas where you want the back side of the rivet to be flush and flat?
 

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MARSON 100%

I have struggled with various other brands from cheap to expensive and the results were all terrible. I was begining to wonder if a hand pop rivet gun would ever work well more than twice.

Thanks to advice here I got a Marson and its great, reliable, easy to use.
(I also have a Marson RivNut gun which is also as good.)
 

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I have an air-riveter for sale with with a thousand rivets for $50.00 (+ $11.00 shipping) if anyone is interested. PM for info.

I have a Marson Mk IV I got at a pawn shop for $45--and MAN does it work well. It's a little unwieldy, but the rivet action is GREAT! :rocker:
 

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Greed and lack of vision is partly responsible. I don't know what German Govt taxes are or insurance requirements but wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't more stringent than that of U.S.

Check this vid out. Mind blowing stuff - like, investing in their young workers, training, training and training, keeping their skilled workers on despite grim economic times so that when that cycle turns, you've got skilled up workers ready to go. Note the attitude of the owners too. PRIDE! Pride in their achievements and a belief in what they do is for the betterment of not just them, but the city/town they're based in (community) and its employees.


In my country, the 'experts said that manufacturing was a sunset industry, that we're too expensive to produce goods. The Govt bought into this mindset and sold this propaganda as part of their macro-economic policy- and with only little encouragement, local business sought to outsource and off-shore to maximise profit (this was back when footage of out of workers cried about their loyalty to company). The parent brand company remaining based in some corporate premise but manufacturing now completely overseas.

Now we're left with a services industry (you want fries with that?) and an economy that is over dependent on exporting minerals. The Germans understand - true wealth is producing something tangible. The Chinese are on to it. They get it.

The U.S still retains huge industrial capacity and latent capability to grow. I don't think the U.S will be completely hollowed out manufacturing wise because of threat of loss of IP (at least in the high end/niche industry). Generally speaking (Germany appears to be exception), the West has lost its way. Somehow, there became a belief that we could move 'dirty' industries abroad and be totally about the 'knowledge' economy which was to elevate all and sundry.

Funny thing happened. Outsourcing started to occur in the 'knowledge' economy as well. Many entry level jobs started going overseas to the sub-continent (India/Pakistan) - and bit by bit, the lower accesses of our skills/employment pyramid have been stripped away. Those jobs down the totem were gateways for people to skill themselves up through experience and on the job training. Now those jobs are OS; these days in the Philippines as much as the Sub-continent. My other half is a scientist. She says they now ship samples to South Korea, because it's cheaper to do so. Insane. This sort of stupidity leads to brain drain (go OS to make a living) and a decrease in ability create the sort of tech miracles that give birth to new industries.

To sustain high tech industries, you need intellectual capital. You need a base from which industry can draw upon. If you gut the career 'way stations', and feeder streams (those techs that process samples), you create a situation where there becomes a negative feed back loop. Less people get into science because there are too few jobs. Too few people mean less intellectual capital to draw upon, meaning less chance to develop the capacity for industry to sustain itself in any meaningful way. The only way to survive is to be drip fed through Govt initiatives.

You can apply the above to any so-called value add knowledge industry (ICT for example). On the latter, when you can't find enough people to do the job immediately, set up a visa program to fast track foreigners into the market - depressing salaries so as to make it an unattractive profession to get into. The Govt rather than identifying a shortfall in meeting industry requirements, went down the lack of vision path. There will be too few kids coming through the pipeline to be the technologists of the future. It will all be done overseas or by imports. One day, that won't be sustainable.

This is Australia. We don't lead. We follow. We do what we're told. The people have far too much faith in Govt to deliver the future. We are a nation of fools, led by fools. I find it immensely frustrating because we are so capable. I work with and for people who are clued in. My missus works with some amazing people. The latent talent is there. We are missing a vision. We are missing the big picture. We are weighed down by modern thought (endless deconstruction), fuckwit wishy washy leftist pigs who'd rather not believe in manifesting national potential because national interest and borders are 'imperialistic, racist and give rise to neo-colonial aspirations' and perhaps there is a legacy of our British origins, with hints of a national inferiority complex. As a nation, we just can't ******* achieve escape velocity.


Jeez mate , who put the burr under your saddle!! fer fucks sake!!its only a 4 year old rivet gun thread!!
 
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