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Recommend me an 8" bench grinder

dwasifar

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My wife wants to know what to get me for my birthday, and an 8" bench grinder would be nice to have. Currently I am under-grindered, having only a 6" Wen that is easy to stall. So I'm looking for a reputable brand that won't break her budget, maybe top out around $200ish. Expected use is parts shaping, wire-wheeling, and polishing - you know, random home workshop stuff.

Share the benefit of your experience. Thanks.
 
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HF has a couple of 8" models. Just as good as all the other Chinese versions. If you're willing to spend BIG BUCKS than of course Balder is the industry standard but they will cost a hell of a lot more than $200.
 

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Have her start looking for a Baldor on Craigslist or Marketplace. I bought both of my Baldor buffers on those 2 websites. Both are bulletproof, and I have a smaller Baldor grinder that needs bearings, but that is a small repair compared to having a burned-out motor. I have never had a Baldor motor ever fail me.
 

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If you want it to be new, I would look at Rikon. They make a low speed that is bullet proof. For grinding that is generally more useful than full speed. But if you need it for brushes, flap wheels etc. then full speed is better.
 

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I would say the 80-808 low speed Rikon as @serber mentioned.

If your not expecting to grind really heavy or run two heavy wheels (such as CBN) then the 80-805 is OK

I had a big baldor so I have two CBN’s on it but a buddy has a the 80-808 and it’s just as smooth and powerful.

I bought an 80-805 to put a small cup wheel for drill bits and a single cbn fine wheel and I sort of wished I went with the 80-808. It starts ok but I wouldn’t want two of the CBN’s on it. Another project I need to finish.
 

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Project Farm has a test on these. The too long didn't watch summary is get something with a "big motor", a lot of amperage draw. I have an old 3A 8" HF and it's ok, but terribly underpowered if you lean on it. IIRC the most powerful grinder PF tested was an 8-10A Jet model. If you're willing to spend the $, that's probably a good one.

Even used, Baldor is just crazy expensive- it's the Wilton vise of grinders as it has the name recognition. I'd love to have one, but no way I could justify the $ for something I rarely use. I know I will get flamed for daring to say this, but a grinder is basically a motor with two extended shafts.... like a vise, it's not rocket science, and there's no reason a decent import brand won't last forever with home use.
 

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Project Farm has a test on these. The too long didn't watch summary is get something with a "big motor", a lot of amperage draw. I have an old 3A 8" HF and it's ok, but terribly underpowered if you lean on it. IIRC the most powerful grinder PF tested was an 8-10A Jet model. If you're willing to spend the $, that's probably a good one.

Even used, Baldor is just crazy expensive- it's the Wilton vise of grinders as it has the name recognition. I'd love to have one, but no way I could justify the $ for something I rarely use. I know I will get flamed for daring to say this, but a grinder is basically a motor with two extended shafts.... like a vise, it's not rocket science, and there's no reason a decent import brand won't last forever with home use.
OK, you asked for it. I'll flame you. Well anyway add some to it. You are of course correct about longevity. However, two things that are important on a bench grinder are power and weight. Power is obvious. You don't want it slowing down when you push it. And with bench grinders, you are almost always pushing. Weight is not so obvious. It contributes to stability. A grinder that is even a tiny bit unbalanced will vibrate. And they all have some imbalance even if it is to small to detect by hand. The lighter the unit, the less damping it will have. That leads to out of round wheels and more frequent dressing. Not to mention that if left to itself, becomes dangerous. Thus you have the Baldor with heavy arbors, thick shafts, cast iron shrouds and even cast iron wheel covers. Just to add weight. Bolting down to a stable surface also helps. How much depends on the surface. Baldor stands have cast iron tops and weigh a ton. Imports are thin steel and weigh very little. A thick wood benchtop is a better bet.
 
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The new hf Hercules 8” is what I have now
Compared between that 8” dewalt and the Hercules, and decided to pay the extra.
 
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If you want it to be new, I would look at Rikon. They make a low speed that is bullet proof. For grinding that is generally more useful than full speed. But if you need it for brushes, flap wheels etc. then full speed is better.

I would say the 80-808 low speed Rikon as @serber mentioned.

If your not expecting to grind really heavy or run two heavy wheels (such as CBN) then the 80-805 is OK

I went looking at Rikon. The Rikon variable speed 80-800VS was in the Project Farm test and came in third, so I started there:

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But of course I did some shopping around and found this too:

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And I thought to myself, those look awfully similar, and the specs are identical. So I downloaded the manuals for these two grinders from Rikon and Menards respectively. Here they are side by side:

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I'm pretty sure this means that if I don't mind losing two years of warranty, I can get the Rikon grinder branded as Masterforce and save $108.

Thoughts?
 

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I went looking at Rikon. The Rikon variable speed 80-800VS was in the Project Farm test and came in third, so I started there:

1713498077338.png

But of course I did some shopping around and found this too:

1713498122254.png

And I thought to myself, those look awfully similar, and the specs are identical. So I downloaded the manuals for these two grinders from Rikon and Menards respectively. Here they are side by side:

1713498200225.png

I'm pretty sure this means that if I don't mind losing two years of warranty, I can get the Rikon grinder branded as Masterforce and save $108.

Thoughts?
The rikons that I have are not variable speed.

At one of the shops at work they bought one of the masterforce VS you showed. It BLOWS. No torque, nothing like the 8" Rikon Slow speed I have at home
 

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I've been pushing my old 1/3hp Craftsman 6" too hard lately and have had a new 8" grinder on my mind as well.

As of now, I'm going between the Hercules or maybe a Jet.


I passed on a couple very nice 10-12" industrial 3HP grinders recently for cheap. They were 3-phase of course....but for the asking prices, they were very tempting!
 

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I'm not sure I would want a universal motor for a bench grinder. How long do you think those brushes would last under the constant run condition? Might be fine if you don't use it a lot but in my shop, it is on at least ten or fifteen minutes every day.
 

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Buy a used vintage grinder. If you insist on buying new, invest in a belt grinder. I tend to make my own belt grinders, but if I was buying something I would serious consider the Grizzly 2x42. Belts are cheap and widely available in various grits. You can shape parts---even aluminum---to your heart's content.

 

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Project Farm has a test on these. The too long didn't watch summary is get something with a "big motor", a lot of amperage draw. I have an old 3A 8" HF and it's ok, but terribly underpowered if you lean on it. IIRC the most powerful grinder PF tested was an 8-10A Jet model. If you're willing to spend the $, that's probably a good one.

Even used, Baldor is just crazy expensive- it's the Wilton vise of grinders as it has the name recognition. I'd love to have one, but no way I could justify the $ for something I rarely use. I know I will get flamed for daring to say this, but a grinder is basically a motor with two extended shafts.... like a vise, it's not rocket science, and there's no reason a decent import brand won't last forever with home use.
Yeah there is a decent reason lots of cheap imports won't last forever...they're pieces of ****.

Have you ever actually used a Baldor?
 

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I had a HF 10" about 8-10 years ago. Lasted about 4 years. Got so weak I could stall it with one hand holding the workpiece. I can't afford new Baldors either, but I have multiple now just by watching for used on Craigslist. Now I can't imagine using anything else, so strong, smooth and quiet. Then again I use mine a lot (though not with stones), for really infrequent use the import options might be fine.
 
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