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If the leads on your 210 are made by Brymen, they're better than Fluke leads.

The only leads better than Brymen are Probe Master.
I find that a little hard to believe that Probe Master could be that much better than the Fluke ones (at least the ones I have).
 
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I've never had an 88 but I believe they aren't true RMS like the 87.

It does have millisecond measurements though for fuel injector on time etc. and you can use an RPM probe with it.

Probably nice features to have 25 years ago, but pretty redundant on modern coil on plug. If you have a decent scan tool or a scope it's not going to offer you anything extra IMHO.

I think the 87v MAX is a better meter for automotive as they are very rugged and waterproof
It would be just for automotive so not really concerned about true RMS. I like that it can measures pulse width figure good for injectors but also some sensors that are frequency dependent. Temp and rpm are also cool features rpm maybe not so much for modern cars but could be helpful on my kid's dirt bike or small engines. Min Max recording seems useful. Also like the attachments in automotive kit. Only thing holding me back is MSRP lol.
 

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When it comes to meters I think Fluke is the only way to go. I have 2 of the Fluke 77 models. These are probably 30+ years old and still work like a charm. D7EEEB30-8138-4EA2-A6C4-FB9B9C8A52EE.jpeg
This is a web pic but mine are in good condition. One came with the stock pouch and the other one is in the original box that has been reinforced with fibreglass tape.
 

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I find that a little hard to believe that Probe Master could be that much better than the Fluke ones (at least the ones I have).
I don't know what probes you have, but the inexpensive set that came with a UNI-T DMM I have (horrors - and at less than 1/2 the price of the Fluke) are better than the ones that came with my Fluke 115.
 

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I think a lot of it depends on what you are going to use it for.

Meters all come with different features and strengths - requirements of an electronics engineer is going to differ vastly to that of an electrician, or an automotive guy.

Fluke is the gold standard for good reason, but as mentioned already, Brymen are extremely good quality (I'd rate them on par) and a fair bit more economical - you will also find their meters rebranded by greenlee and amprobe, but only certain models.

The Brymen probes are not bad, some of the fluke ones are great, some are rubbish. Probemasters are nice too.
 
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When it comes to meters I think Fluke is the only way to go. I have 2 of the Fluke 77 models. These are probably 30+ years old and still work like a charm. D7EEEB30-8138-4EA2-A6C4-FB9B9C8A52EE.jpeg
This is a web pic but mine are in good condition. One came with the stock pouch and the other one is in the original box that has been reinforced with fibreglass tape.
I have that one at home, however the lcd went bad, any one a replacement LCD for that fluke 77, sometimes the lcd wont turn on, has fresh batteries. its bit dim
 
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If the leads on your 210 are made by Brymen, they're better than Fluke leads.

The only leads better than Brymen are Probe Master.
interesting, how do they compare to pomona?, i had short life of the newer flukes, my flukes from 2010 have better insulation on them than the one from around 2017. they flaked off real easy on the newer ones
 

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I don't know what probes you have, but the inexpensive set that came with a UNI-T DMM I have (horrors - and at less than 1/2 the price of the Fluke) are better than the ones that came with my Fluke 115.
The ones that came with my 287 are realllllyyyy nice flexible soft zero memory. I wouldn't be surprised if the lower end 1xx series meters don't come with as nice of ones.
 

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Fluke generally has two types of leads. They have the more basic ones that come with meters like the 11x series and even the 87.

They also have nicer silicone leads

The silicone leads have advantages but I think they may not be as good for automotive use. Silicone is more flexible but also grippier and seems to hold dirt better. Thus a set of the vinyl jacketed leads may be better if you are using the meter under the hood with grease and the like.

Thus two people can both be talking about Fluke leads yet not the same thing. I believe Pomona makes Fluke's leads so no difference in quality there for the same basic design. Others also make good leads. The Brymen leads are silicone and quite nice. The ones I have I think have a thin plating of gold which helps reduce surface contact resistance but wears off in no time. Where I really have seen a difference in probe quality is when looking at cheaper meters. Once you get to around $100 it seems like everything is good and the differences are as much about tradeoffs as one being all around better than another.
 

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Here is a great video on why Flukes are so expensive and some alternates to use.
 

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The fluke leads are great for flexibility. They do collect dirt and don’t like to clean up from it. One place I went to manufactured graphite. The only bright side was a new set of leads. Graphite would cover everything! Neat process though.
 

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I like the Fluke silicone test leads with 4mm banana jacks instead of the attached prods, so I can use different accessories like alligator clips or back probes.

They are available from ebay for about £20 a set

I've also got a few sets of custom leads I made up myself using stuff I bought from these guys.


You can buy some of the WTS stuff in the USA from these guys

 
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