driftpin
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Do you pay MSRP for a vehicle? Probably-not. Nor should you pay retail MSRP for a luxury item like this.
I did name three other brands of toilets we bought that have given decent service. Offhand, I cannot recall the prices, but I suspect they were $500 or less, apiece. I did mention that TOTO had less-expensive toilets besides the one we purchased. Budget considerations are why we have them in the first place, yes?
Here is the manufacturer's info on the Mirabelle by Ferguson, a single piece design w/3" glazed trap, a lower skirt to eliminate the dust and other substances from collecting on the toilet, as happens on the exposed curves of other toilets. It has never plugged, is very easy to clean, and is easy to keep clean inside from those annoying "skid-marks." The height is good for adults who have 'bad knees.' It's MSRP is $305. https://www.ferguson.com/product/mi...n-white-mircr240swh/_/R-7181123?skuId=7181123
People on GJ have similar interests, but different budgets, witness the guys who are Snap-On only versus the guys who collect Oxwall. There is a range of pricing to meet everyone's needs. TOTO makes more-expensive toilets, but like the Snappy aficionados, that's their choice. Guys who like Snappy products but are budget-limited haunt estate sales, CL, etc to look for something more in-line with their budget constraints. TOTO has less-expensive products with fewer features, the brand is known to last decades with little maintenance required.
If I was going to replace a toilet in a rental, I think I would choose a tall American Standard Cadet. They are cost-effective, work well, demand little in maintenance, and parts are readily-available.
Do you know the cost of skilled nursing assistance or even having a 24/7 companion to service the needs of elderly parents? It will empty a 401K quicker than a crack ho with an ATM card and the password. We had two in their late 90's parents to be cared-for, and a commode like the TOTO Neorest is a big help in keeping their personal sanitation taken care-of. Taken over-time, the cost of such an 'extravagance' is amortized against the cost of nursing help, if the relatives are ambulatory and not cognitively-challenged from Altzheimer's or organic brain dysfunction.
With the reasonable cost of toilets that 'work,' trying to locate and to install a toilet tank isn't something I would bother wasting my time doing. I would replace the entire unit. Whether you want to spend thousands of dollars is just a matter of budget. Some of us have different budgets. My wife spent more on the kitchen in our remodel than I spent to buy my first house as a single man.
We planned to age in-place here, one of the primary goals in the remodel, this was just a consideration we made which met immediate needs and was a good improvement for the future.
Is this guy going to buy a TOTO Neorest, I doubt he will, but there are other TOTO products which may allow him to find one which is within his budget. When Chevrolets selling for over $100,000 are commonplace, it's different from buying a 396/427 Chevy Biscayne in 1968 for less than $3,000. Sorry for the sticker-shock.
I did name three other brands of toilets we bought that have given decent service. Offhand, I cannot recall the prices, but I suspect they were $500 or less, apiece. I did mention that TOTO had less-expensive toilets besides the one we purchased. Budget considerations are why we have them in the first place, yes?
Here is the manufacturer's info on the Mirabelle by Ferguson, a single piece design w/3" glazed trap, a lower skirt to eliminate the dust and other substances from collecting on the toilet, as happens on the exposed curves of other toilets. It has never plugged, is very easy to clean, and is easy to keep clean inside from those annoying "skid-marks." The height is good for adults who have 'bad knees.' It's MSRP is $305. https://www.ferguson.com/product/mi...n-white-mircr240swh/_/R-7181123?skuId=7181123
People on GJ have similar interests, but different budgets, witness the guys who are Snap-On only versus the guys who collect Oxwall. There is a range of pricing to meet everyone's needs. TOTO makes more-expensive toilets, but like the Snappy aficionados, that's their choice. Guys who like Snappy products but are budget-limited haunt estate sales, CL, etc to look for something more in-line with their budget constraints. TOTO has less-expensive products with fewer features, the brand is known to last decades with little maintenance required.
If I was going to replace a toilet in a rental, I think I would choose a tall American Standard Cadet. They are cost-effective, work well, demand little in maintenance, and parts are readily-available.
Do you know the cost of skilled nursing assistance or even having a 24/7 companion to service the needs of elderly parents? It will empty a 401K quicker than a crack ho with an ATM card and the password. We had two in their late 90's parents to be cared-for, and a commode like the TOTO Neorest is a big help in keeping their personal sanitation taken care-of. Taken over-time, the cost of such an 'extravagance' is amortized against the cost of nursing help, if the relatives are ambulatory and not cognitively-challenged from Altzheimer's or organic brain dysfunction.
With the reasonable cost of toilets that 'work,' trying to locate and to install a toilet tank isn't something I would bother wasting my time doing. I would replace the entire unit. Whether you want to spend thousands of dollars is just a matter of budget. Some of us have different budgets. My wife spent more on the kitchen in our remodel than I spent to buy my first house as a single man.
We planned to age in-place here, one of the primary goals in the remodel, this was just a consideration we made which met immediate needs and was a good improvement for the future.
Is this guy going to buy a TOTO Neorest, I doubt he will, but there are other TOTO products which may allow him to find one which is within his budget. When Chevrolets selling for over $100,000 are commonplace, it's different from buying a 396/427 Chevy Biscayne in 1968 for less than $3,000. Sorry for the sticker-shock.
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