Recommendations for a 60A panel

[scutty83]

I would like to install a 60A sub panel in the basement for general lighting and outlets. I have a 200A panel in the garage which I plan on replacing at the same time I install the subpanel...I'm out of spaces and need more for future "expansion". Here are my questions...
1. How big of a feeder do I need for the subpanel? It will be about 60-70' run. I know it makes a difference if I use aluminum or copper so I would like to know the sizes for each.
2. Do I need to run in conduit or is there a a wire I could use that is ok to run without?
3. I would like to stick with the Eaton Cutler/Hammer brand, any recommendatios on a good sub panel?
Thanks in advance.

Here is what I plan on replacing my current 30/40 200a panel with.
http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs...3&langId=-1&productId=203026371&storeId=10051

 

[pattenp]

I suggest this panel for sub and feed it with 2-2-2-4 Al SER on a 60A breaker. The SER can be run without conduit, install method is the same as NM.

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc...&keyword=eaton+100&storeId=10051#.UPIvY288CSo

 

[scutty83]

That is the exact panel and wire I ran in my shop last year. I definitely dont need 20 spaces, nor did I in the shop, but at that price it is hard to beat.

 

[pitterpat]

If you live near a Menards they have a similar breaker box (1 less breaker in the value pack/ same brand) for $52.97. I just bought this panel as a subpanel in my 2nd detached garage. I am in the process of installing it now.

 

[pattenp]

That is the exact panel and wire I ran in my shop last year. I definitely dont need 20 spaces, nor did I in the shop, but at that price it is hard to beat.

Yep... you can get a panel with less spaces but the price is about the same and some are higher priced. If you like Cutler-Hammer you could step up to the CH style.

Edit: A main lug panel is another option. You don't have to have a main breaker.
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc...ord=eaton+main+lug&storeId=10051#.UPLmQeTAdpE
or..
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc...ord=eaton+main+lug&storeId=10051#.UPLm0uTAdpE

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[pitterpat]

Yep... you can get a panel with less spaces but the price is about the same and some are higher priced. If you like Cutler-Hammer you could step up to the CH style.

Edit: A main lug panel is another option. You don't have to have a main breaker.
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc...ord=eaton+main+lug&storeId=10051#.UPLmQeTAdpE
or..
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc...ord=eaton+main+lug&storeId=10051#.UPLm0uTAdpE

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MLO is an option but if you have more than 6 breakers you need a main breaker.

 

[Alchymist]

Partial to Square D QO series, I'd go with a 100 amp panel, never know when the extra spaces will come in handy. Aluminum 2-2-2-4 as stated, can be breakered up to 90 amps; if 60 amps is enough, #6 copper if desired, but will be more $$$.

 

[pattenp]

MLO is an option but if you have more than 6 breakers you need a main breaker.

I believe his sub-panel will be in the same structure as the main panel so the 6 breaker rule does not apply.

 

[pattenp]

Partial to Square D QO series, I'd go with a 100 amp panel, never know when the extra spaces will come in handy. Aluminum 2-2-2-4 as stated, can be breakered up to 90 amps; if 60 amps is enough, #6 copper if desired, but will be more $$$.

Be aware that SER if run within thermal insulation must be sized from the 60C degree column just as NM. #2 Al @ 75C is 90 amps, and @ 60C is 75 amps.