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toglhot

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I made and rode recumbent bikes and trikes for years. In all, I built 12 recumbents, three two wheelers, nine trikes. Recumbents are seriously fast, particularly the two wheelers. They were banned from competition back around 1930, the ban still applies.

The first two pictures are of a trike I built about 15 years ago, It was made from scavenged parts I found on the side of the road or in the bush, only the spokes, hubs and tyres were bought item, I had a lot of fun on this one, riding it daily for about 10 years. It had a joey cassette just behind the front crossmember giving another four gears to compensate for the 20" rear wheel. This resulted in a very high gear ratio making this trike seriously fast The co-pilot in the back seat loved it, If I tried to go without him he put on a turn. Eventually the chain and cassette started slipping, so I retired it, hung it from the shed roof and I built a two wheeler. eventually I pulled the white one down from the roof, cut it up and threw it away. I hated doing that as I'd had so much fun on it, but it was just collecting dust and taking up valuable space

I got the two wheeler to the test stage, but testing it in the confines of my tiny backyard I crashed it, falling off, splitting my head open on a concrete pot and badly gashing my right leg. At this point my wife convinced this doddery old fool he needed training wheels and convinced me to build another trike instead. The two wheeler was chucked behind my shed and so I made another trike, picture three. The ride was ok, just a bit hard over bumps, I'm old now and like a bit of comfort. so I decided to build one with rear suspension, pictures four and five.

I've learned a lot over the years building 12 recumbents, so I put everything I'd learned into this final build. You'll notice the difference in frame design between the white/grey trike and the last build. The new design saves a little weight. All important when your 70 years old. The new one has nine position adjustable suspension, hydraulic disk brakes, adjustable toe in, two degree caster and camber, an aluminium seat back with lumbar support. The frame is 32mm square tube, the swingarm is 40 x 20mm tube. Kingpin bearings and tank steering levers have plain Delrin bushings. Front wheels are 20" rims laced to aluminium disk hubs with stainless spokes (and no thread showing), rear is 700c. Cycle parts are Shimano Deore, nine speed cassette, three ring chainwheel. Chain is around 2.5 bicycle chains running through Delrin idlers riding on small ball bearings. Bottom bracket is 6" higher than seat base, seat angle is 42 degrees, weight is 19 kgs, same weight as the aluminium framed MTB from which I scavenged the Deore cycle parts.

My hips have had enough of this malarkey and so the trike was retired. It sits on the garage floor now, but I can't bring myself to cut it up and throw it away.
 

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Very cool toglhot, I am currently collecting parts & pieces for three builds. Getting ready to start cutting frame pieces. I am following the plans from ‘Atomic Zombie’. I hope to start with a two wheel swb recumbent, then a trike and finally a tandem trike! I am hoping I can PM you if I encounter problems and maybe gain some insight? I am enjoying the hunt for the bike components. The uprights are hard on my arthritic neck & I hope my wife and I can enjoy biking together once again. Thanks for sharing!!
 

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Really cool! Never rode one, in fact I just did my 1st organized ride in decades. (Tour de Tucson) only did 57 miles which was plenty for me! I question the balance issue? I have issues with balance and wonder is recumbent better or worse?
 
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Really cool! Never rode one, in fact I just did my 1st organized ride in decades. (Tour de Tucson) only did 57 miles which was plenty for me! I question the balance issue? I have issues with balance and wonder is recumbent better or worse?
Two wheeler recumbents have a much higher centre of gravity than diamond frames, once underway they are great, providing the steering angle is right and trail is correct. Starting off can be a bit tricky for a newcomer. And as I said in my post, slow tight turns can be very tricky as evidence by the scars on my head and leg. Trikes are the way to go for old folks like me.
 
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Very cool toglhot, I am currently collecting parts & pieces for three builds. Getting ready to start cutting frame pieces. I am following the plans from ‘Atomic Zombie’. I hope to start with a two wheel swb recumbent, then a trike and finally a tandem trike! I am hoping I can PM you if I encounter problems and maybe gain some insight? I am enjoying the hunt for the bike components. The uprights are hard on my arthritic neck & I hope my wife and I can enjoy biking together once again. Thanks for sharing!!
If you have neck problems, as I do, a 42 degree seatback angle is about as low as you want to go. Any further absolutely kills the neck. I looked at the Atomic Zombie site, but didn't like their bikes or trikes, so continued designing my own.
 

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I can imagine weight and perhaps seat design is not a strong suit in the atomic zombie designs…. Before I dropped a ton of money in purchased recumbents I thought I’d give it a try….. heck your twelve builds indicates you were bit hard. I can imagine if I like the riding position I can begin refining the designs. I have found a few forums….. any suggestions on sites you like? I assume you must have become skilled in welding, tig & mig?
 
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I'm a welder by trade, although I haven't worked at it for over 45 years. Nothing wrong with the bikes or trikes, I just chopped them up and built new models as new design ideas overtook me. Never had a failure, except from the Deore shift levers.
 
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I'm not aware of any sites with recumbent plans except Atomic Zombie, although there are a few recumbent groups I have contributed to. I design my own, don't work from plans and don't use jigs.
 

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Two wheeler recumbents have a much higher centre of gravity than diamond frames, once underway they are great, providing the steering angle is right and trail is correct. Starting off can be a bit tricky for a newcomer. And as I said in my post, slow tight turns can be very tricky as evidence by the scars on my head and leg. Trikes are the way to go for old folks like me.
I best stick with the easy way! Trike might be fun!
 

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I always wanted to build a trike with front wheel drive and rear wheel steering. The steering would be made by leaning the trike rather than steering linkage, which would add a lot of weight. Of course, it wouldn't turn very sharp at all, and there would be a learning curve getting used to rear wheel steering. Some kind of joy stick would be used to steer so you wouldn't have to rely on leaning your body.
 

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25 years ago I built a few bikes and quit a few tadpole trikes.
 

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25 years ago I built a few bikes and quit a few tadpole trikes.
Optima?
Bents and trikes can be a blast to ride. Although one upright friend commented, "That puts you right at Doberman height."
Never bought a trike, but I have 20kmiles on my TI Bachetta.
 
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Here's another I built about 15 years ago. All the parts came from the dump, except the front hubs which came of a wheelchair, the rear rim and the spokes and tyres. It had rim brakes, 20" wheels and frame made from 30mm tube. To compensate for the 20" rear wheel, I modified a rear cassette and mounted it just behind the front crossmember. I also modified a front derailleur for changing gears. The joey cassette gave it very tall gearing, so it hopped along quite nicely. I rode this one everyday for around 10 years, eventually the chain and sprockets wore out, so I retired it. The dogs loved it, couldn't go riding without them, First Toby the chihuahua and then Dennis, the dog in the second picture, sadly, both have gone to the big kennel in the sky now. The trike hung from the ceiling shed for a while, but eventually I cut it up and dumped it.
 

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Here's another I built about 15 years ago. All the parts came from the dump, except the front hubs which came of a wheelchair, the rear rim and the spokes and tyres. It had rim brakes, 20" wheels and frame made from 30mm tube. To compensate for the 20" rear wheel, I modified a rear cassette and mounted it just behind the front crossmember. I also modified a front derailleur for changing gears. The joey cassette gave it very tall gearing, so it hopped along quite nicely. I rode this one everyday for around 10 years, eventually the chain and sprockets wore out, so I retired it. The dogs loved it, couldn't go riding without them, First Toby the chihuahua and then Dennis, the dog in the second picture, sadly, both have gone to the big kennel in the sky now. The trike hung from the ceiling shed for a while, but eventually I cut it up and dumped it.
I really like the one with the doggy on it, I built all my trikes out of old frames. I remember i wouldn't even remove the paint before Oxy welding the frames. I was young then.

Here's a vid of the child's trike, the person riding it is a little too big for it.

 

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