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Bwana

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I've looked at a lot of the "show us your garage" threads and it seems most have the same problem I do, reflection of the florecent lights into the TV screen. The TV is usually up high in the shop for good reason but this also puts it close to the lights.

Has anybody figured out how to eliminate the reflections? I can hardly see the show because of it. Do the computer "anti-glare" screens work? I've had a tough time finding even these, used to be common 10-15 years ago
 
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I have my tv on a full motion mount. It is tilted down enough that I get no reflection of the lights.
 

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My shop lights don't reflect into my TV. No TV is allowed in my shop. Problem solved. If you want to watch TV, leave my shop and go to my house.
 

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Why do people reply to a thread with smart *** remarks?

So you don't have a TV in your own garage - good for you!

This guy is asking a practical question about his own situation, and looking for responses from people who have experienced the same situation.

Why make smart-assed remarks that have nothing to do with what he is asking?

Sheesh!
 

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I've looked at a lot of the "show us your garage" threads and it seems most have the same problem I do, reflection of the florecent lights into the TV screen. The TV is usually up high in the shop for good reason but this also puts it close to the lights.

Has anybody figured out how to eliminate the reflections? I can hardly see the show because of it. Do the computer "anti-glare" screens work? I've had a tough time finding even these, used to be common 10-15 years ago

A good layer of dust should take care of it:thumbup:
 

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I find the glare on my garage TV (DLP) is all viewing angle dependent. If I'm in the viewing sweet spot, there is no glare. Generally the farther off the viewing axis, the more glare I get.

When I work in my garage while the stock market is open, I typically watch CNBC. Investing is what funds my retirement. I enjoy doing it and have enough invested that I like to keep on top of what is happening.
 

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Why do people reply to a thread with smart *** remarks?

So you don't have a TV in your own garage - good for you!

This guy is asking a practical question about his own situation, and looking for responses from people who have experienced the same situation.

Why make smart-assed remarks that have nothing to do with what he is asking?

Sheesh!


I agree with this 100%. Just give the guy some insight.
 
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Bwana

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I guess I have the TV on as background, usually Mythbusters, Modern Marvels, or Diners, Drive ins, and Dives. Sometimes Speed Channel. If something I hear is interesting, I'll stop for a second and watch. So I'll be standing in any point in the shop, which is why the the angle thing is difficult.
 

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I have a full motion tilt mount hooked up to my tv out in the garage. Works great, I keep it tipped down, and some times turn it to one side.
 

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Mine is mounted ar ceilng height and tilted down. It is also located so that the lights are not between the screen and the area where I normally work. You may consider mounting a baffle on the tv side of the light housing that extends down past the tubes.
 

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I don't understand the whole beef with having a TV in the shop to begin with.When I thought about building my shop,that was one of the main thoughts I had-and couldn't wait for.Where to put the TV?I kinda think that's the epitome of having a bitchin' shop-the big screen TV.Now before I get slammed for "not using my shop for work",I do plenty of car,bike,house whatever projects.I just think it's nice to be able to watch a football game WHILE ALSO,getting **** done.I call it multi-tasking.
 

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Pretend the TV is a mirror. Everything that you could see with a mirror mounted in the same spot reaches the screen and attempts to reflect back to the viewer.

The face of the LCD has two treatments to deal with this. The most common is whats called an AG treatment. Basically they intentionally make the surface a little bit bumpy (on a really small level, kind of a mat finish). That way, what ever is reflecting back at you spreads (diffuses) out and does not produce a clear image the way a mirror would.

That works pretty well.

The other part is having an AR coating. The idea with the coating is to reduce how much light is reflected off the screen. At best an un-coated surface can absorb about 92% of a reflection. The AR coating can get you to 96% or so. That may not sound like a huge change but the reflected light was cut in half ( was 8%, now its 4%).

Better, newer screens can reduce that even more. From what I have seen, the AR coatings on the LCDs have improved in the past two years.

One thing working against all of this is some companies produce screens with limited AG and a good AR. Those are the glossy screens. The reason for that is the AG treatment tends to mute the image a bit so the glossy screens tend to look more vivid.

An extreme version of this is to optically bond a AR glass panel to the front of an LCD. The image looks great, very vivid but will have a problem with reflections for strong lights. The best AR coatings still reflect about 1% of any light back. Without a diffusing surface you get a clear image of a bright light, even though its only a small percentage of the light.

For a shop environment, a good AG / AR coated LCD is a good starting point. Angling the screen and placing lights to get them out of the line of site also helps. Lights that have a shroud that gets the bulb out of the reflected line of site may be enough.

I have 42" operating room / medical monitor that's designed to work in brightly lit operating rooms. It has a glass AR / AG front. That seems to work reasonably well, even with all the lights on.

Since most of my manuals are electronic, its nice to just pull them up on screen and be able to view them while I'm working.
 
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I'm taking a wild guess here... Expensive...?

When it was new it was around $4000. It sat on the shelf, unsold for a couple of years. The resolution is 720P, fine for what I'm using it for but the market moved to 1080.

It was taken off the books as scrap and I was asked to dispose of it. Once in a while you can find stuff like this on CL or E Bay.
 

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My old plasma had a ton of glare but I replaced it with a LCD last year. It has a matte non-glare screen and now the glare reflections are gone. I hate to hear guys ***** about having a TV in the garage or workshop. I look at it as multi tasking. I watch all the F-1 races and moto GP, motocross a little football but I leave it on SPEED most of the day. Some people listen to music I like something with content and I have learned a lot just listening while I'm working. Why not watch motorcycle show while your working on motorcycles.
 

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Go to an electric light specialty store and ask for the slip on tubes for flourescent bulbs that cut down reflective glare. They were used in the city buses interiors last I recall.

I had a set of blue ones in my work area but they were removed and discarded while I was off for rotator cuff surgery. (grrrr).
 

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I finally stopped using the TV I'm the garage due to this, and am now radio only. I get more done without the distraction.
 

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Why do people reply to a thread with smart *** remarks?

So you don't have a TV in your own garage - good for you!

This guy is asking a practical question about his own situation, and looking for responses from people who have experienced the same situation.

Why make smart-assed remarks that have nothing to do with what he is asking?

Sheesh!

:thumbup: I was thinking this as well. Even though some of you apparently can not, many of us have the ability to multi-task, or maybe for watching an instructional video about a shop related project.

I suppose I shouldn't have a radio in the garage either - just a distraction.
 

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What if you keep an eye out on CL for a free LCD TV that doesn't work, then take the screen off of it and trim it to go over your glass screen.

BTW....I love the 42" plasma momma got me for Christmas. Way better than the 13" portable I had. :rocker:
 

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Why do people reply to a thread with smart *** remarks?

So you don't have a TV in your own garage - good for you!

This guy is asking a practical question about his own situation, and looking for responses from people who have experienced the same situation.

Why make smart-assed remarks that have nothing to do with what he is asking?

Sheesh!
:thumbup: :beer:
 

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A good layer of dust should take care of it:thumbup:

I have a TV only broom to get rid of the dust.

As far as a glare - try tilting or turning the TV - I have a regular tube TV - but it's under a ledge and my shop lights are on seperate switches - so no glare to worry about.
 

Brian C

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Why do people reply to a thread with smart *** remarks?

So you don't have a TV in your own garage - good for you!

This guy is asking a practical question about his own situation, and looking for responses from people who have experienced the same situation.

Why make smart-assed remarks that have nothing to do with what he is asking?

Sheesh!

Well said!! :thumbup:
 

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We just purchased a 32" flat panel to mount from the ceiling. I use the TV to connect to the laptop for software diagnostics.... The 32" TV is cheaper than a 32 " monitor. Besides we are able to play DVD's on the panel!
 

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I guess I have the TV on as background, usually Mythbusters, Modern Marvels, or Diners, Drive ins, and Dives. Sometimes Speed Channel. If something I hear is interesting, I'll stop for a second and watch. So I'll be standing in any point in the shop, which is why the the angle thing is difficult.
Fair enough, I find TV distracting if I'm doing something else so usually just have the radio on as background. Being a man I'm not up to multi-tasking!:lol:
 

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I use a full motion mount and since I have the lights switched in sections, I can kill the one right in front. I wasn't big on a TV but upgrades bumped a 40" LCD to the shop. SO now while I'm working on my car stuff I'm watching Hot Rod TV, Chop Cut Rebuild, Car Crazy, etc along with any drag racing - NHRA, Pass Time, Pinks. Oh, and I have access to all the Sirius sat radio channels too. Got plenty of tunes for tinkering.
 

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Everyone went to shiny screen surfaces after the Ipad came out and made it ****. Before that, most quality screens had a matte finish.

The best thing you can do cheaply, is change the angle or tilt so it doesn't reflect any particular light fixture back toward you in your primary viewing area. If you mostly are working under the hood, focus on that.


Controlling room lighting is very effective, if you can do it.

zuk
 
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