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lardy1

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Let's beat another dead horse. The search function isn't getting me much current info.

I don't trust either pair of my current ones. They came with the widowed girlfriend. I just bought a new 3 ton floor jack and want to upgrade the stands. Non professional. 1/2 ton Silverado will likely be their heaviest load. I don't think I can afford or need top tier. But I want to feel secure.

Suggestions?
 
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demarpaint

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After two recalls in less than a year, I took my HF 6 ton jack stands back. They weren't part of the recall, I got a cash refund. I bought US Jack 6 ton jack stands. They cost more, but I'm 100% certain they're safe. For me it was money well spent.
 

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Get the US Jack ones. I bought a pair to replace my HF ones and they're great. Hein-Warner only makes the ratcheting bar portion in the US, and the rest is made in good old China!
 

BlakeTheCarGuy

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I’ve got lots of jackstands. My main set is Chinese Craftsman lol they work good though and are sturdy they seem so I trust them I usually use them on one of the higher heights and they do fine. The rest of mine are made from Model T Axle Housings. The US Jack are good from what I hear and made in USA. I’d know someone who has some from Northern Tool and they are pretty good as well, I’d trust the new revised Harbor Freight ones too since they changed them so they won’t fail.


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It shouldn’t matter what brand of jack stands you buy or use. The key is to make sure anything holding up your car while under it isn’t a single point of failure that can kill you. When I’m working on a car I have one side up on jack stands, a pump jack supporting the car with a little pressure and any tire that comes off gets put somewhere under the frame. If a jack stand fails the jack still has the car, if both the stand and the jack fail the tire keeps the car from completely flattening me. If all 3 fail somehow then obviously it was my time to go. Buy quality products but don’t rely on that quality to keep you safe.
 

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I've got the Escos and a pair of Hein Werner 6 ton stands. Bummer that the AC stands disappeared from the US.

So far so good on picking up a thing that weighs exactly what a RCSB Silverado weighs.

I'm enough of a scaredy-cat that I keep the jack under there of course, but I still think about gravity no matter what.

If I had it to to all over again, I'd make a real search for forklift pin-type stands that had a reasonable amount of travel. Don't know if such a thing exists.
 

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jackstands are ok until you start wrenching, then they are prone to slip.
Wood dunnage blocks are a safe backup device.
 

Roadster J

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All my stands were ratcheting, but after the HF recalls this year I bought the Esscos from Amazon.

If you purchase from Amazon, check pricing when you order. Some listings are pairs of stands and others are individual stands. I ordered 2 stands midOctober and pairs were cheaper. After receiving them a week later, I decided to order an additional two and individual stands were cheaper.


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It shouldn’t matter what brand of jack stands you buy or use. The key is to make sure anything holding up your car while under it isn’t a single point of failure that can kill you. When I’m working on a car I have one side up on jack stands, a pump jack supporting the car with a little pressure and any tire that comes off gets put somewhere under the frame. If a jack stand fails the jack still has the car, if both the stand and the jack fail the tire keeps the car from completely flattening me. If all 3 fail somehow then obviously it was my time to go. Buy quality products but don’t rely on that quality to keep you safe.

That's pretty much what I do. I have some stacks of 8" long 2x6's screwed together that get used in some cases too instead of the tire/wheel if the wheels are too expensive or the tire isn't wide enough to keep the wheel off the floor.
 

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I tried like hell to find some usa made stands earlier this year, but could only find us jacks, but they were out of stock for months and honestly I wasn't too fond of the design of the stand itself. Anyways, I finally ended up with 4 of the otc 6 ton jack stands with the solid sides (no open A frame) and they are fantastic. Nice quality metal and the casting is even nice and straight

These are what I got:

https://www.otctools.com/products/6-ton-capacity-ratcheting-jack-stands
 

latebreak

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I have 8 of the ESCO 3 Ton jack stands with the flat tops on them, and also have 4 of the axle saddles.

Now that I have a RAM 2500 Cummins, I want a set of 6 ton jack stands. So looking for a good option for use on the truck. I could probably get by with the ESCO's but I like having ample margin between rating and actual load. This is my life we are talking about after all.
 

ope_ohGeez

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I have yet to find the perfect jack stands, but I can offer my experiences:

Harbor Freight- I used these for years, the saddle is a weird crescent shape that puts all the load on the edges. Threw them away after the recalls, not worth the risk IMO

Hein Werner 3-Ton- The saddle is flat which is nice. The welded on the lower section of the stand look horrible, although they are allegedly made in USA I still don't feel great about using them.

ESCO 3-Ton- I have the low-profile ones (10499)- they are TINY. Definitely get the regular ones if you have a truck. I like the design of these- the large pads on the feet don't sink in or damage asphalt. The welds on the set I have are "sufficient" but nothing to write home about (a couple small pinholes where the weld ends). Keep in mind you have to choose between a flat saddle or the rounded "axle" saddle. I did have an issue with 1 stand I received from Amazon which I had to exchange- the top saddle/pad that supports the vehicle was welded on crooked (10-15 degrees), however, the other 2 stands I received are fine.

US Jack 3-Ton- These are the best quality stands I have used. Welds all look good, every stand is identical. Really wide base (the 3-ton stands have a base the size of a typical 6-ton stand), very stable. The top saddle is flat, nice. Although they are ratcheting style stands- the design requires you to lift the release handle THEN pull it out slightly. It's really secure, I don't think it would be possible to release them accidentally when there is weight on them. My only complaint with these stands is the design of the feet. You effectively have just angle iron ends going down vertically into the ground. They sink into hot asphalt, it would be nice to have some pads welded to the bottom to spread out the load for use on surfaces other than concrete.

Overall, I would say that both ESCO and US Jack are well-built options to consider. Your life is priceless, a $160 investment in your safety is well worth it.
 

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After thinking about it some more I just ordered some 6 Ton US Jack stands. Backordered until end of January...will report back then.
 

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I tried like hell to find some usa made stands earlier this year, but could only find us jacks, but they were out of stock for months and honestly I wasn't too fond of the design of the stand itself. Anyways, I finally ended up with 4 of the otc 6 ton jack stands with the solid sides (no open A frame) and they are fantastic. Nice quality metal and the casting is even nice and straight

These are what I got:

https://www.otctools.com/products/6-ton-capacity-ratcheting-jack-stands


Just wondering; is the overlap seam welded on the inside?
 

will335i

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I have the Big Red 3 ton Aluminum Jack stands. I like that they don't take up a lot of room when working around them. They are light and use a pin vs ratchet mechanism.
 
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ajchien

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I’ve had US Jack 6 ton, Craftsman 4 ton, and MVP 2 ton for 10-15 years now.

I’m not willing to condemn all ratcheting style jack stands due to the HF recalls. Years in the past we condemned pin style stands because 1) people didn’t engage the pin properly and 2) the pin was supposedly could be “knocked out of engagement” by a stray tool handle. Now we have flipped around the other way saying that the ratcheting style break away roll pin doesn’t break away, and the extension bar/pawl contact isn’t good. FWIW, there are now a number of brands that offer ratcheting jack stands with an additional pin.

*EDIT: I personally do think there is one significant flaw in the ratcheting type stands. you might have a roll pin that you’re supposed to install at the bottom of the extension bar... Or you might have this tab to bend or screw to install at the top of the base. I don’t think this is to prevent the extension bar from falling out when it’s upside down. I think it’s to prevent someone from pulling out extension bar past “maximum”, so that the bottom of the extension bar is sitting above the pawl ... slightly cockeyed in the base, looking “fine” and actually staying up under load ... with no actual engagement of the pawl to the extension bar. This is obviously a dangerous situation if you’re not aware of it.

I think the HF recall was caused by the lack of QC by the manufacturer, and the lack of QC by the importing company.

I would limit myself to “major label” lift equipment brands. Ones that have been around a long time making and providing jacks stands, jacks etc. Names like American companies US Jack, Gray. Or Asian import companies like Shinn Fu (aka Hein Werner, Omega, Blackhawk, Pro Lift), Torin (aka Big Red, Blackjack, TCE), Sunex, OTC, Norco and any of their sub-brands. Or European companies like ESCO. I’m sure I’ve missed a few names.

Just don’t give me some imported stands from an unknown factory, from an unknown importer, found by some computer algorithm on Amazon.

As for the stand itself, I think you should look at lift height. You want the stand to be able to have the max height you need. Most of the time this causes you to upsize the capacity of the stand to more than you need.

EDIT: FWIW, I’m also an advocate of “redundancy”, whether that is a wheel, jack, or another set of stands in between you and the concrete. Also, solid ground/concrete with wheel chocks+parking brake. I would suspect that one of the biggest causes of fail are on a FWD vehicle, where one front wheel is raised with the other on the ground without parking brake or wheel chocks.
 

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I have the ESCO flat top with rubber pad stands and have been very pleased with them. Their rating is individual rather than per set.
 

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I have the U.S Jack stands. I like them because the pawl engages 2 teeth on the rack. Very secure.
 

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I have several sets of stands ..... but my "go to" is a stack of 2x6x8 's that I created.
 

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I had some old 3-sided pin style Craftsman stands from the 1980’s that were just plain dangerous (base too narrow, prone to slipping, only 3 height settings). I needed something better to install a lift kit on my truck. I was going to get Esco or US Jack but both were out of stock when I needed them.

Ended up with Pro-Lift 6-ton (bought 2 pair) and could not be happier with them. Rating is per pair. Really good value. Ratchet style with a locking pin backup. Biggest drawback was no rubber pads for the saddle.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074R17GL4/?tag=atomicindus08-20
 
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I have the ESCO flat top with rubber pad stands and have been very pleased with them. Their rating is individual rather than per set.

No kidding. I just read the manual, indeed it is 3 Ton per stand. Almost all other jack stands rate per pair. In fact I thought there was some legislation years back that required ratings to be per pair.

Well it looks like I could use these safely with ample margin on my Ram.
 

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The Torin Big Red 3 ton Aluminum Jack stands have a very narrow base - not safe IMO.

I upgraded from some stands I've used since the 1970s to the Esco stands. The welds are worse looking than the welding my dog does, so inspect the welds carefully.

Overall,the design of the Esco stands is good and they are strong, so get those if you want a $50 jack stand that is safe.

No jack stand is safe unless you put something strong under there as a backup. I use wooden timbers.

And just a reminder - concrete blocks are NEVER SAFE - they undergo catastrophic failure.

And rock the vehicle in every direction to check!
 

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The Torin Big Red 3 ton Aluminum Jack stands have a very narrow base - not safe IMO.

I upgraded from some stands I've used since the 1970s to the Esco stands. The welds are worse looking than the welding my dog does, so inspect the welds carefully.

Overall,the design of the Esco stands is good and they are strong, so get those if you want a $50 jack stand that is safe.

No jack stand is safe unless you put something strong under there as a backup. I use wooden timbers.

And just a reminder - concrete blocks are NEVER SAFE - they undergo catastrophic failure.

And rock the vehicle in every direction to check!
m,;;
 

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Dated a paramedic/nurse. She said they responded a lot of calls for people crushed under autos. She said it was a quiet, sad death that didn’t get much attention unlike an auto/pedestrian or drowning. I always throw a wheel or two under the frame.
 

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This is what i got,,
highly recommended. RennStand.
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A/C and ESCO for many years now. Have hundreds of hours under these stands. Highly recommend them! The galvanized (had 4 gave 2 away) A/C stands are about 10 years old. Red ESCO are about 6 months old. Notice they are 6000lb. IMG_4012.jpg


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Not sure how you all work under your vehicle after putting so much stuff under it.

Ive always felt safe using my 6 ton craftsman jack stands. I'll typically keep the jack under a part of the vehicle so it doesnt completely fall.
 
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