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diyer999

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What kind of lights do you members like to keep in your vehicles for "on the road or away from home" emergenices, blizzards, vehicle breakdowns, flat tires, etc., any problems needing reliable, sustained, easy to operate lighting? I ask because I have had problems with various kinds of lights failing in different ways: I have a big box full of all kinds of lights but they all seem to lack some important feature (no, I wont take the whole box with me every time I take a trip). Its when you are not home, you forgot your phone, your stranded, ergo, the worst of situations :scared: that I seek an answer for. For examples:

If its the kind that uses bulbs, just when you need it most the bulb has or will burn out. :evil:

If it takes batteries, either they will be dead and you forgot to replace them, or they are corroded in place, or you have the wrong size. :eek:

I dont particularly relish the idea of using one of those lights that you need to constantly shake to create current to produce light :lol: havent seen them advertised for quite sometime now.

If I get the kind of light that plugs into the cigarette lighter, just when I need it most, the vehicle will have a starting/charging problem and it will preclude me from using up the battery's charge. :eyecrazy:

Classic hand held two and three D size battery types are powerful but are difficult to use for changing a flat tire, you cant hold it and use both hands very easily. Its like you stick it under your arm and then squeeze it to your body -- ya know;)

Build quality is an issue also, it has to be reliable and durable -- USA made of possible; if not then German or Japanese -- please no more Chinese junk. It can be the best light but if its from China, you know whats gonna happen to that product eventually. This issue is fragught with Murphys Law scenarios.:headscrat

It may be that having several lights is the best answer, but I'm hoping for a less pricey option, as well as, not having to haul my garage around with me. I like the small thin Mag-Lites; the LED type of lights; and the headband kind. I have a few of each. I can hold the Mag-lite in my mouth, but the headband type works just as well, and is way easier (buts its from China) . . . its just too rinky-dink, i.e., shoddy. :sad::wtf:

LED's seem to be the best solution to the burn out bulb issue. A corded light that runs off the cig lighter seems to be a good idea as well, if the vehicle can stay running without issues. I think the small lights are fine for nice calm summer days when you need to deal with a relatively minor problem, like a flat tire.

But what about a dangerous winter blizzard at night, the kind you should not be traveling in but have no choice, and no one is around to help you or hold the light, and you have children with you and their scared, and its all up to you. :eek: :Help: I was particularly interested in getting a powerful light for that kind of situation, however, not one of those million candlepower deer spotlights (have two of them).

Btw, not having to hold the light can be very important. Maybe something with a magnet to attach to the vehicle. Actually I have a black and decker snake light that does that but its a cheap built thing . . . And I abhor B&D products. I should probably ask the fire dept. what they recommend or some first responders type guys what they like.

Btw, I have everyone of these lights I mentioned, but of course still running into issues. I'm kinda thinking that if I was in a nighttime winter blizzard of the worst kind and had to change a tire and/or do a sudden repair (assuming its even possible), I'm thinking of a magnetically attachable and also a vise grip optional (like a dial indicator flexible joint arm), powerful enough, both battery and 12 V corded, maybe waterproof too (to prevent electronic issues). I wonder if such a light exists. Sorry, I cant mfr it myself. Too busy. Too much Chinese competition and patent stealing.:eek:wned:

I've been thinking about this for some time meaning to ask the question here. Cant think of a better forum than here (I could go to Chaski but that Harold V is a real sob/pos). Any ideas are welcome. Sorry for any typos etc. And thank you all in advance.
 
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HotelMike

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I keep a headband (3xAAA) and a LED Mini Mag Lite in my center console. They cover pretty much everything. The headlight gets most use as it leaves my hands free. Just have to remember to check the batteries every few months. Sometimes I keep spare batteries in the glove box.

I have some D cell Maglites and CR123 tactical lights. Those tend to gather dust unless I pack them for a specific trip etc.

If I could only have one, it would be a LED headband light.
 

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I have a fluorescent drop light that has a power cord that plugs into the 12v outlets, a 6-D cell Maglite, a 2-AA cell aluminum LED lite, and my iPhone camera flash light. But I don't carry tools anymore, since after 18 years in the same vehicle, I've never needed them. I have the factory tools and jack to change a tire, a multi-tool, and that's it. I have a long lab coat and gloves in case I happen to be on my way to work. Other than that, my insurance includes roadside assistance and towing to home/shop. I'm not doing more than changing a tire on the side of the road or in a parking lot.
 

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Having a emergency services background I tend more toward the Streamlight "light-box" style light, other manufacturers as well make similar lights. Biggest attractions with these are the sturdy purpose built recharge base that can be vehicle mounted. Prices are well north of $100.00. And while they last a good long time- they don't last forever either.

I think the term "tactical light" has become like Sportscar or industrial grade which is to say we may refer to them as such, but other than the appearance - those lights have little in common with true law enforcement style lights. Just because the light uses expensive "123" cells really means little in the long run. Again biggest advantage to real PD style lights is the vehicle charger. The really good lights are very pricy. I've purchased a number of better consumer brand LED lights that failed in less than a year, I suspect the lesser lights don't have good heat sinks for the LED's?

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I have Zebra lights in each of our vehicles, and one in the shop. They can be used with or without the included headband for handheld or handsfree use, pretty versatile. I've had ours for about 5 years and not a single failure, they are very sturdy (aluminum, not plastic). They come in many configurations but my preference is for the AA floody. At home I use Eneeloop rechargables but in the cars I use Energizer Lithium AA.

http://www.zebralight.com/H52Fw-AA-Floody-Headlamp-Neutral-White_p_121.html

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Petzl headlamps for us for the last 15 or so years. They're awesome, and they keep improving. We use AAA version with retractable headband so they're very small and easy to keep in your pocket. Out of around a half-dozen we've had one crack but it's very likely an early version and very old.

For throwing some bright light far then we have NiteForce, Fenix, and others in the $50-150$ range.

A big thing for us was to standardize on common batteries we could re-charge so once we run out of 123s we'll be upgrading lights again. We normally go through 3-8 AAA every couple weeks since we use these lights daily to take care of the animals in winter.
 

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I have many flashlights, but this one is used more than the rest combined, and it's a good light for emergency use in a vehicle, or for service:

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https://www.nebotools.com/prod_details.php?id=407&cid=16

Thought it was a gimmick at first... It's not. That magnet (not allowed in my vintage computer room... LOL) is powerful as hell. It also unscrews for those times you don't want it around.

The main beam can be focused to a very useful extent, and the LED "bar" that activates upon extension will go white, red, or flashing red.

The whole thing charges via a USB cable. I've charged it from everything you'd expect, including the 3.0 port on the front of a computer.

All my Surefires and Streamlights... And Nebo smacks them all up and back home again with the most versatile light I've ever owned. It's quite durable, as well. It doesn't feel in the slightest bit cheap or wobbly.

Failing that, my all-time favorite is the U.S. made C. Crane Trek Light. It's not bright, but it's tough as nails and very good in the bush.

http://www.ccrane.com/CC-Trek-4-LED-Waterproof-Flashlight-Black

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diyer999

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I have Zebra lights in each of our vehicles, and one in the shop. They can be used with or without the included headband for handheld or handsfree use, pretty versatile. I've had ours for about 5 years and not a single failure, they are very sturdy (aluminum, not plastic). They come in many configurations but my preference is for the AA floody. At home I use Eneeloop rechargables but in the cars I use Energizer Lithium AA.

http://www.zebralight.com/H52Fw-AA-Floody-Headlamp-Neutral-White_p_121.html

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Last time I read, the lithium AA were not even available. How long have they been on the market? . . . Are they pricey? Are they proprietary to Eveready?
 
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diyer999

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Having a emergency services background I tend more toward the Streamlight "light-box" style light, other manufacturers as well make similar lights. Biggest attractions with these are the sturdy purpose built recharge base that can be vehicle mounted. Prices are well north of $100.00. And while they last a good long time- they don't last forever either.

I think the term "tactical light" has become like Sportscar or industrial grade which is to say we may refer to them as such, but other than the appearance - those lights have little in common with true law enforcement style lights. Just because the light uses expensive "123" cells really means little in the long run. Again biggest advantage to real PD style lights is the vehicle charger. The really good lights are very pricy. I've purchased a number of better consumer brand LED lights that failed in less than a year, I suspect the lesser lights don't have good heat sinks for the LED's?

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Would you provide me with some links to the products you are referring to???

Thank you.
 
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Last time I read, the lithium AA were not even available. How long have they been on the market? . . . Are they pricey? Are they proprietary to Eveready?

Really? Where did you read that? Lithium AA's have been on the market for years. You should probably do some research, a .37 second Google search will answer all...

Are they pricey? You'll have to decide that for yourself. Here's just a quick example...

https://www.amazon.com/Energizer-L91BP-8-Ultimate-Lithium-Batteries/dp/B0000DC4EL
 
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diyer999

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Really? Where did you read that? Lithium AA's have been on the market for years. You should probably do some research, a .37 second Google search will answer all...

Are they pricey? You'll have to decide that for yourself. Here's just a quick example...

https://www.amazon.com/Energizer-L91BP-8-Ultimate-Lithium-Batteries/dp/B0000DC4EL

Yeah really. Where? Don't recall. Well, obviously it had to be years ago and then I never stayed on top of the subject to look for current info. Time flies. Ill check the link, thanks.
 

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I have many flashlights, but this one is used more than the rest combined, and it's a good light for emergency use in a vehicle, or for service:

nebo-tools-6434-slyde-king-c-o-b-led-work-light-22.gif


https://www.nebotools.com/prod_details.php?id=407&cid=16

Thought it was a gimmick at first... It's not. That magnet (not allowed in my vintage computer room... LOL) is powerful as hell. It also unscrews for those times you don't want it around.

The main beam can be focused to a very useful extent, and the LED "bar" that activates upon extension will go white, red, or flashing red.

The whole thing charges via a USB cable. I've charged it from everything you'd expect, including the 3.0 port on the front of a computer.

All my Surefires and Streamlights... And Nebo smacks them all up and back home again with the most versatile light I've ever owned. It's quite durable, as well. It doesn't feel in the slightest bit cheap or wobbly.

I have a few Slydes and Slyde Kings, they work great. The King is rechargeable, so you could charge it in your car if it went dead. You dont always have extra batteries.

This is a good deal -
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nebo-Slyde-...257872?hash=item211de1cc10:g:e9gAAOSwnbZYCQxP
 

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The Milwaukee m12 or m18 lanterns are probably what would suit your needs, and you'd need to get over this COO thing. Milwaukee's tools are not "junk"

Lithium batteries in sizes from 1.5 to 6.0 amp hour for the m12, 1.5 to 9.0 for the m18. Each lantern has 3 light settings and a strobe feature. Led lighting can be directed anywhere from 180 degrees to 360 degrees with a twist of the collar. Each comes with a 2.0 amp USB charger port built into the tool. Lithium batteries that will work in the cold unlike cheap versions, and that can store for a year and still retain most of their charge. And of course, being part of a cordless tool system, they are built for rough environments, and will power any of the cordless corresponding tools for that system, which are all industry leading. You can get the m12 spot light too to keep in the car or home also, or the m12 version of a Maglite flashlight, all working with the same battery platform.. they make many different led lights, and you can carry one or two different ones for different purposes if you'd like, or just keep different ones at home and use them there instead. That's the benefit of cordless too SYSTEM, over just buying one light to keep in the car. Going on a road trip, just grab your m12 batteries at home and take them with you.. Milwaukee even makes an m12 powered radio that's good for storm emergencies, or just an M12 power source that converts any m12 battery into A portable USB charger.

The m12 lantern is only $59 right now, so you'd just need to get an m12 charger ($15 on eBay) and however many batteries you'd like, in whatever sizes they offer. The runtimes will vary depending on battery sizes. A $20 cigarette lighter power inverter can also power the charger.

Full video demo here -


With 2 batteries with you, I can't imagine you needing more than that if something ever happened, unless you were planning on being out in the desert or the woods for days.. that will outlast most anything available and give you actual USEABLE lighting that will survive being dropped from heights.

A $25 Coast headlight is a good choice to save space, but the small ones only last a like 2 maybe 3 hours on high, and your using cheap non lithium batteries for those that may not like cold weather or last long being stored in the light. And no cell phone charging with those. With an m12 lantern you get a lot of uses AND a power source for charging a device..
 
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When I see a LED light with strobe mode I see a big FAIL. I mean really who needs it? It just reinforces the fact that they chose some cheap cloned LED driver solution = no value added flashlight engineering included ( reeks of Chinese junk). Also look where they set the kick down light modes. Most of these clones are based on some arbitrary PWM current level 1/2 and 1/4, not a useful lumen level. Some PWM can be detected by the eye with fast motion again bone stock basic LED driver (low tech). Also Light color is important nowadays, look for a neutral light, if they have it most will say it on the package. Buy a LED from a company that specializes in LED lights and is building a 'brand name' standing for quality, not some power tool attachments.
 
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In regards to Fenix, I had one of their headlamps (HL21) years ago and it was pretty cheap/low quality IMO. The plastic parts cracked/broke with pretty light use. Anyway, maybe they've improved but that's when I found Zebralight, and I never looked back
 

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I've not personally used a Fenix headlamp but I did have one of their 2aa "tactical" lights that I used daily at work. After going through 2 streamlight protac 2aa I decided to see what else was out there. Fenix has a warehouse/warranty center a few miles away from my work where I could see and handle the lights before buying them. Also In the same size at the streamlight the Fenix had a much better run time with double the brightness (newer more efficient led). Now I carry a TK15 ultimate edition it's a monster and about as big of a light as a person would want to daily carry clipped in their pocket. Instead of using 2 cr123 batteries I use rechargeable 18650 and with daily use go anywhere from 1-2 weeks per charge. I don't recharge when the battery goes dead but instead as soon as it looses high (even then it will run medium high for another week with my useage. But I carry this light 24/7/365 and after having started carrying a light for work I will for the rest of my life carry a light in my pocket/on my person at all times
 

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I keep a petzl, mini maglite, and a streamlight with a backup battery and charger in the truck. Each one has it's benefits, and I'd rather have multiple tools that specialize in a single task than one the compromises to do 3.

It's a weak comparison but you wouldn't try to loosen every nut and bolt with an adjustable wrench would you? There's box ends, open ends, sockets, impact sockets, crow foot, starter wrenches, etc.

In a pinch I'd say streamlight stinger (of what I own) because if I needed to I could hold it in my mouth. It's not pleasant but I think I could stretch it the furthest.
 
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