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Remote heat detectors?

james

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I'm trying to figure out a heat-rise detect or something similiar for my shop. It's a 30x40 steel building located about 40-50 feet from my house. Does anyone make a heat rise detector with a remote alarm? I'm also trying to figure out an alarm. Right now I have a HF "driveway alarm" motion sensor that does okay, but I get paranoid after a day of welding and I know smoke detectors would be pretty useless.
 
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jtillery

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I put heat detectors in my shop instead of smoke detectors. It is definitely the best option in a working garage. I have a normal security system, and they just interface with that.
 

DarkDraggon

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Is your shop air conditioned? If yes then you could go with a 135deg/ror heat sensor if not use a 197deg/ror sensor. Then you could use a simple power supply and wireless transmitter and receiver to tie it in to your home alarm. Let me know and I can get you part no.s for what we use so you'll know what to ask for.
 
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redsky49

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Be aware that a "rate of rise" heat detector provides no protection against a slow smoldering fire, the type that kills due to smoke inhalation. Also, by the time that the interior of the space reaches the setpoint of the rate of rise detector, chances are that it will be very difficult to extinguish the fire as it will have become well established.

You are correct that you may generate false alarms with welding equipment and photoelectric smoke detectors, and certainly would have problems with the ionization type of detectors which have a history of false alarms in this type of application. However, you are placing yourself at a disadvantage by not using a smoke detector.

Careful selection and installation of the correct type of smoke detector will provide you advance warning of combustion byproducts as compared to the heat detector alone. I suggest that you consult with NFPA or a local fire safety expert for a recommendation.

Also, proper venting of the welding gases/smoke will go a long way to preventing false alarms, as well as assuring your safety and comfort during welding operations.

As always, offered only a opinion
 
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james

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The hardest part is that I don't have a home alarm, so I'm looking for something, even a smoke detector that would sound in the house, 40-50 feet away. A smoke detector or heat rise going off in the garage in the middle of the night won't do me anygood.
 

lametec

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From what I can figure, you should be able to use a 4-wire heat detector.

These detectors use 4 wires. 2 for supply voltage (typically 24VDC) and 2 for alarm (a normally open contact). All you'd have to to is supply the power and an alarm module that goes off when powered. Run the power wires for the alarm module through the normally open switch, and when the heat sensor goes off the alarm will sound. The alarm module can be placed as far away from the sensor as you want, just run long wires.

At least I think this should work.. I have no experience with alarm systems and heat rise sensors, though, so it might not be as easy as this.
 
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