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drummingpariah

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I just started renting a room in a house, and have been given full access to the attached single-bay garage. Unfortunately, it's been a little chilly lately (17F right now) and the electricity can't handle running a space heater powerful enough to warm up the drafty space.

I'm trying to decide if it's more worthwhile to insulate the garage or get a much bigger heater. I haven't gotten a decent picture yet, but this should give you an idea of what I'm working with:
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Any advice/links/further-reading would be greatly appreciated.
 
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LP gas heater
I got one two years ago that looks like one of the wall mounted ones but is on wheels. The LP tank sits behind it on a tray, has three burners and works great. I have a two car garage and it will warm it up quite nicely
Can get pics if you want, I sit a fan on top when its real cold to spread the heat out faster.

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x2 kero heater, it'll warm it up quick and cheap.
I was going to be a smart a$$ and say use a wood stove...
 
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x2 kero heater, it'll warm it up quick and cheap.
I was going to be a smart a$$ and say use a wood stove...

That's kind of funny, I have a spare wood stove and had considered it, but it'd be a massive pain to install it out here. Don't kerosene heaters need to vent somehow?
 

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Kerosene and any other combustive type heater needs an air source. I'm just down the road from you and I use natural gas in my garage.

Have an older Reznor that heats my place up nicely, I insulated and drywalled so it worked out well for me. Someone else's place...Not worth it unless they discount the materials from your rent. I used to use a Kerosun heater but Kerosene is 3.50 a gallon and it's a farm fuel aka NON Taxed? Funny how a non Taxed fuel is so expensive huh?
 

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get a heater. dont spend money insulating a rented space.
 
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drummingpariah

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Headed down to Home Depot today to pick one up then. $3.50 a gallon does seem a little expensive, but whatever. The garage is drywalled, it's just not sealed up well.
 

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What is with all the wood? Why don't the owners use the garage?
 

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Try $6.08 for kero here in Houston - the place where we don't need much heat... 3 - 5 gallon jugs - $91.20. However, if everything works as planned, that'll get us thru the cold season. Next year, the shop will have central heat.
 

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Kerosene heaters are cheap, and cheap to operate but I have got to warn you;

I spent 34 days in a burn ward, no my heater didn't burn me, but during my visit four other guys were fried (separately) in their garages by gasoline catching from kerosene heaters.

Everyone else got burned with gasoline and a match, starting fires, duh.

Kerosene heaters will ignite gasoline fumes faster than a blow torch.
 

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before you go out and spend your money, have you cleared this with the owner yet? They might not like the idea of a potential fire hazard.

Also, what were your plans of using the garage for? If nothing major, I would say just suit up nicely if and when you need to do repairs.

I wish my garage at least look like that. It's got openings and cracks like you wouldn't believe. Someday, I will get my dream garage.
 

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Head to nearest army/navy surplus for some great coveralls. I work all the time in mine and they keep your clothes clean. A big plus.

Drop Zone on Rt 9 is closed now I think, but there was another one up your way.

OT but that's a Corolla GTS? Sold the BMW?
 
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drummingpariah

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What is with all the wood? Why don't the owners use the garage?

They use the garage for storing firewood. It's the most economical way to heat a home here in New England. $500 will heat this house for the winter (where oil is closer to $1250 and electric is around $3,000).

Try $6.08 for kero here in Houston - the place where we don't need much heat... 3 - 5 gallon jugs - $91.20. However, if everything works as planned, that'll get us thru the cold season. Next year, the shop will have central heat.

That definitely puts things into perspective for me. If I can get away with $100 for the whole winter, I'll be happy. Guess I'll have to check our local kerosene prices.

Kerosene heaters are cheap, and cheap to operate but I have got to warn you;

I spent 34 days in a burn ward, no my heater didn't burn me, but during my visit four other guys were fried (separately) in their garages by gasoline catching from kerosene heaters.

Everyone else got burned with gasoline and a match, starting fires, duh.

Kerosene heaters will ignite gasoline fumes faster than a blow torch.

Duly noted. I'm generally pretty careful.

before you go out and spend your money, have you cleared this with the owner yet? They might not like the idea of a potential fire hazard.

Also, what were your plans of using the garage for? If nothing major, I would say just suit up nicely if and when you need to do repairs.

I wish my garage at least look like that. It's got openings and cracks like you wouldn't believe. Someday, I will get my dream garage.

The owner was ok with installing a fireplace out there, and when I suggested the kerosene heater he mentioned that he had a spare we could use in his barn. He's an awesome guy, and I really lucked out with getting in here.

I'll be using the garage for composite fabrication and standard mechanical repairs, so it's worthwhile to put some money into keeping this warm for me.

Head to nearest army/navy surplus for some great coveralls. I work all the time in mine and they keep your clothes clean. A big plus.

Drop Zone on Rt 9 is closed now I think, but there was another one up your way.

OT but that's a Corolla GTS? Sold the BMW?

I have a flight jumpsuit that's pretty well insulated, but there's no getting around the fact that all the bolts are freezing and there's ice on most of the suspension. I got them pretty cheaply, and they're super-comfortable.

It's not a Toyota, but I can certainly understand the confusion. It's an Nissan 200sx (s12, the old rear-wheel drive predecessor to the 240sx). It's pretty much a Corolla, but with independent rear suspension and a slightly bigger-displacement (but equally anemic) engine. Once I have it buttoned up a bit, the plan is to plop a lighter, better engine in and call it done. I'll have more details about it on my site soon.

I hated the BMW with an unyielding passion, so I was happy to sell it. In its place, I got this Nissan and this v8 F150 4x4:
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Most either love or hate their E36's. I can say I dislike mine as they consume to much maintenance for what they give in return. The good is I know them very well. Suggest you look at Home Depot/Lowes and the normal places for a Kerosun style. Do you want a convection type or the Torpedo style.

The Torpedo style makes alot of noise heats places up fast but tends to deplete oxygen pretty darn fast so if you get a head ache or light headed it's time to let some fresh air in the garage.

Basically use common sense when using one!
 
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The torpedo makes more sense I think. I'm sure I can set up some kind of contraption with some ductwork that'll feed air from outside to it while it's on.
 

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i agree the kerosene space heater is the best but aim it in the opposite direction of the wood that is stored there and keep heater clear of any other combustibles. i use one of these heaters to heat my garage. be sure to use clean fuel.
 
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Just wanted to report in. My housemate (owner of the house) went over to his barn and picked up his old kerosene heater that he never uses. I only have to run it for about 15 minutes and the garage is nice and toasty. I just worked out there for about 3 hours, and had it on for about a half hour of that, and neither died of asphyxiation or froze to death. Mission accomplished, I'd say. Here's the heater in all its epic looks-like-it-came-from-a-barn-ness:
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I probably don't need to say this, but I'm pretty darn happy (don't worry, I moved the leaves from behind it so they wouldn't get sucked in and burn).
 

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Can't beat a free solution; rock on.

If that unit dies or plans change, I'd look into one of the radiant propane heaters like this one: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0000C6E2Z/?tag=atomicindus08-20

I see several bad reviews, but many positive. Some guys on a car forum last year were using these to heat up their cheap tent/carports to get some work done. They supposedly crank out a lot of heat, and seem safer than propane. Further investigation might lead you to decide they aren't for you, but it's worth a look if the kero unit dies.
 
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This kero heater's been running for the past 50 years, I think I'll own my own house before it dies :)

I can say that I don't have any complaints about the amount of heat, the fumes, and especially not about the amount of electricity it uses. The space heater I was trying to use previously didn't heat the space and kept shorting the little garage circuit we have (no welding is ever happening with this wiring... we'll just leave it at that).
 

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Are you experiencing any issues with condensation? I seem to recall people saying that kero heaters pump a lot of moisture into the air.
 
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I haven't noticed any problems. I'll let you know when the ice in the garage has melted a little and the chunks I broke out of my car's floor have gone away.
 

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Good deal.

I've got the two wrench sets out for tomorrow. Just PM me to let me know if you'll be there between say 3:45 and 4:15 or if I should put them in the mailbox or on the porch or something :)
 

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I Just turn on a couple of halogen lamps, they take my garage up 20 degrees, but I also live in the Phoenix area.
 
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It was -6F today. This was last thursday, the least snow we've seen so far since New Year's:
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You might as well be on the moon for the similarities between here and Phoenix. You can get frostbite by holding your hand to your engine if it hasn't been running. I do need to get down to my garage.

Bull,

I'll either be here or in Springfield tomorrow, but I'm going to try to get down there sooner. I'm going to be right on Liberty and Denton (where my old garage is), if that'll be more convenient for you I can let you know when I leave. Those wrenches would do me a lot of good, I don't have any sockets or wrenches that can get to my starter motor bolts right now.
 

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Aside from where I work, I don't know any parts of Springfield. I watch the news too much to want to explore the area, if you know what I mean.

I need to make a quick stop at the Hadley Post office after work, and then would be coming up whatever that back road is that leads me to the intersection by your place, where I would take a right at the cemetery and be right in front of your house.
 
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I'm the second house on the right after the lights. Just before the line of shrubs. You'll see my truck mostly buried in snow to the left of the garage. If I'm not around, just leave them in front of the door, or if you're feeling courageous just put them in the mud room.

I'll try to make sure I'm around, so we can at least shake hands face-to-face though.
 

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Sending a PM.

I'm the second house on the right after the lights. Just before the line of shrubs. You'll see my truck mostly buried in snow to the left of the garage. If I'm not around, just leave them in front of the door, or if you're feeling courageous just put them in the mud room.

I'll try to make sure I'm around, so we can at least shake hands face-to-face though.
 

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Are you experiencing any issues with condensation in my rv rental arizona if I am in the phoenix az area any time sone? I seem to recall people saying that kero heaters pump a lot of moisture into the air.

I am experiencing that. Is it good for me?
 
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I actually swapped the kero heater for a dual-head propane heater. That was an awesome swap. I had a bit of a run-in with some car parts in the garage today, and I think it's time to get ahold of some shelves for spare parts and such.
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I started growing a beard is what happened.

... oh, you mean about the little chunks of missing face? Some of the parts from my ugly-car weren't coming out very easily. When they finally did come, they bit me for removing them.
 
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Well, it's been altogether too long since I've been on here. I've moved a few times, and am back in New Hampshire considering buying a small house with a garage. Just reorganized my toolboxes in my parents' garage since I've been helping them maintain their motorcycles.
 
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