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billymade

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Get the model # off the top right hand drawer (should be a white sticker); the # will be like this ***.XXXXXX. Then put the # in the parts search and it should come up with the parts list and a exploded view; you can order online or call the parts department. If you have problems finding the parts you can contact Waterloo as well; Waterloo AFAIK is the OEM provider for Craftsman toolboxes.

Sears parts: http://www.searspartsdirect.com/partsdirect/index.action?sid=PSHx20080114x00001

Waterloo customer service: http://www.waterlooindustries.com/contact.asp

Here is another VOTE for a FAQ section!!!!! :)
 

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Hey Billymade!

1. Do Craftsman tools really have a life time warranty?
2. What can I do if my local store won't honor the warranty?
3. Will they replace tools for chipping chrome?
4. Why does the same tool have different part numbers on line with widely different price?
5. Why does every one keep saying the raised panel tools are junk?
6. What grade of Craftsman tools is good?

OK I got you started do it and then get BMW to sticky it.
 

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Hey Billymade!

1. Do Craftsman tools really have a life time warranty?
2. What can I do if my local store won't honor the warranty?
3. Will they replace tools for chipping chrome?
4. Why does the same tool have different part numbers on line with widely different price?
5. Why does every one keep saying the raised panel tools are junk?
6. What grade of Craftsman tools is good?

OK I got you started do it and then get BMW to sticky it.

1. Yes, Hand tools are lifetime warranty. (ratchets, sockets, extensions, allen wrenches, regular wrenches, adj wrenches, screwdrivers, pliers etc....) look at the back of the package and it will say if it is covered. If it doesn't say anything then it is not covered.

2. Call the catalog @ 1-800-377-7414. Tell them that the store either does not have the item in stock or that they will not cover it. If it is a small store and they do not stock individual pieces most of them will not break a set.

3. Most likely not. This is up to the store. The warranty is for breakage. Flaking chrome is a finish issue and is not covered.

4. I don't know. Perhaps Billymade can answer.

5. Because they are anti Craftsman (IMHO) The raised panel tools are fine however the pro line are a bit stronger. Plus they are polished for easy clean up and they are also longer for more leverage. At my store we don't warranty very many pro wrenches.

6. If you can swing it get the Craftsman Professional series across the board.
 

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1. Yes,MOST Hand tools are lifetime warranty. (ratchets, sockets, extensions, allen wrenches, regular wrenches, adj wrenches, screwdrivers, pliers etc....) look at the back of the package and it will say if it is covered. If it doesn't say anything then it is not covered.

2. Call the catalog @ 1-800-377-7414. Tell them that the store either does not have the item in stock or that they will not cover it. If it is a small store and they do not stock individual pieces most of them will not break a set.

3. Most likely not. This is up to the store. The warranty is for breakage. Flaking chrome is a finish issue and is not covered.

4. I don't know. Perhaps Billymade can answer.

5. Because they are anti Craftsman (IMHO) The raised panel tools are fine however the pro line are a bit stronger. Plus they are polished for easy clean up and they are also longer for more leverage. At my store we don't warranty very many pro wrenches.

6. If you can swing it get the Craftsman Professional series across the board.


2. The catalog procedure (from experience), is you take it to the store, ask for the manager (as most cashiers need to be told by them), they call the 800#, give the store number, their employee number, the item number, and they take possession of the broken one and you are mailed a new one

3. Flaking chrome SHOULD be an issue. It took me quite a while to get a copy of the ACTUAL full warranty statement, of which rust and fire voids the warranty. If the chrome has flaked, your one step away (and this is SELECTIVELY enforced)

5. The raised panel stuff works. The wrenches are just about the most produced, and can have a wider tolerance then others. The ratchets get a lot of bad press, due to a couple of things both dealing with their internals and grease. They vary in the amount they get, and they aren't sealed, and the snap ring traps grit and grime under them (forcing it into the chamber).

6. The Craftsman pro line (with the thin pro exception), are the same ratchet guts, in a different handle. I prefer the round head fine tooth (raised panel) or the thin pro sealed head ones.
 
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Q #1,3: The Craftsman warranty is a "satisfaction" based warranty and has nothing to do with technically, the tool being "broken" if you read the fine print; I get into arguments with managers/co-workers about this, all the time.

Q #2: I would call customer relations hotline if you are having a problem with warranty issues at your local sears; we have had a member on this board have the same local store manager personally call and apologize about the problem and offer a free replacement! This happened after the call/email was made to customer relations; probably not in all cases but this particular situations was resolved with in the same day, as the call to customer relations! These issues do get to the store managers desk and their "customer service" points/percentages do impact them where it hurts (in the pocketbook)! Go to this link for the customer relations hotline:

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/nb_10153_12608_NB_Customer+Relations?adCell=A4

Customer Relations Hotline:
1-800-549-4505

Email us your questions, comments and experiences
or send a letter to:
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/nb_10153_12608_NB_CSeMail?refLink=relations&adCell=A4

Sears National Customer Relations
3333 Beverly Road
Hoffman Estates, IL 60179

Q #4: The only thing I can come up with is the "retail" part # and the catalog/online part # is different; the retail sets are typically, packaged in small amounts and many times certain part #'s go on clearance! These items can be the same contents of another set but have another part #. Thats probably clear as mud but thats all I can think of an explanation of this issue; not a "official" answer but just a educated guess.

Q #5,6: I think that the quality on many of the Craftsman hand tools has gone down; all you have to do is look at 80s, 70s, 60s (and earlier) vintage production tools and especially the "v" series really seemed to be of a higher quality standard. Some point to Stanley being the OEM before a certain time frame, others blame cost cutting productions issues, lowered specs,.... we could go on forever and the "answer" maybe a bit of all the possibilities wrapped up into the end result of a poor quality tool; compared to the earlier generation tools. The ratchets, screwdrivers, that are the "base level" quality (e.g. raised panel ratchets/wrenches, clear blue/red handle screwdrivers etc) in particular, have suffered under what seems to be a cost cutting measures, this maybe a lowered spec sent to the OEMs who produce the tools. I have seen this myself and point to the possibility of the Kmart buyout as a beginning of the decline in quality and the change in management/retail philosophy based on the "Kmart culture". I don't think Sears is particularly unique in this problem but this is being seen as a tool industry wide issue; other industries are seeing this as well... automobiles, appliances, clothing, etc. etc. etc. If you compare a a 50s car to a currently shipping 2009 model; yeah you will see differences in quality good/bad. You could lay the blame on a million different issues; globalization, greedy corporations, off shore manufacturing, engineered obsolescence, low quality Danaher production/design, "throw away" society culture, loss of american hand skills, reduction of "cost effectiveness" of repairing much of anything vs. "buying new"., lowered expectations in quality control because of pressure to lower production costs, etc.etc, etc, etc,, I could go on for days....
The low line Craftsman tools are what they are; they are affordable and much cheaper then they used be, IMHO! If you get them on the 50% off sales, you can't hardly get the same amount of tools at the flea market or garage sales for that price; as a matter of fact, you will see many of these 50% tool deals at the flea market the next week, with the price jacked up in the hope of making a profit! The quality is lower then the past and the raised panel ratchets in particular are a glaring example of this; its sad to see but there it is!
The pro line of Craftsman tool is typically much better then the degraded low entry level tools; there still are complaints from many here and on sears.com in the "reviews" section that the quality control has fallen off (seems people complain about the full polish wrenches); this is a continual point of frustration for many! Again, I don't think this is unique to sears but to the tool industry in general; all the "Craftsman" tools are made by OEMs that are part of the industry at large.

Are there other alternatives to Craftsman? Yes! Used high quality pro hand tools at flea markets, swap meets, pawn shops and garage sales.... don't get me on another rant, maybe another day, post or someone else can pick this issue up...


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Q #1,3: The Craftsman warranty is a "satisfaction" based warranty and has nothing to do with technically, the tool being "broken" if you read the fine print; I get into arguments with managers/co-workers about this, all the time.

From a legal perspective (and no IANAL (I am not a lawyer), but had this discussion with a few), there IS a difference between the satisfaction guarantee (what they get turned in under) and a warranty (covers ONLY manufacturing/design defects).
 

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I must be really lucky with my local Sears. I take broken stuff to them all the time and they just give me a new one. In the past I have even upgraded to a better model just buy saying I would like to upgrade. I just pay the difference. That is how I got my set of the new thin profile pro ratchets. My raised panel ratchets where worn out, so I took them to Sears and said I would like to upgrade to the pro ones, I paid the difference and I went home.
 

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danc333, that just shows you another case, where it depends on who you are dealing with at the store; we used to do the "upgrade" thing by having the cutomer paying the difference; now they are saying we are not allowed to do this any longer.... go figure! By talking to a manager, you may be able to get something done; this has successfully been done by pointing out that the vintage ratchet wrench that was being turned in had a metal selector on it and the replacement was plastic; our manager upgraded and gave the customer the new "thin" profile as a replacement at not extra cost. YMMV!
 

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I took in some broken wrenches and tried to offer to pay the difference to upgrade to the pro wrenches and it just turned into an arguement.
that is about ad dumb of customer service as it gets.

I have also taken in broken wrenches and they have upgraded me because they did not have the raised panel version

bob
 

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I took in a 1/2" ratchet (standard raised panel), with a broken pawl, and they pulled out the rebuild bin. They had a 1/2" flex ratchet (also raised panel) that had NEVER been in stock whenever I had been in the store. I said where have they been and they swapped me even up. This was while I was waiting on the round head fine tooth.
 

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The old school fine tooth round head; typically, has to be orderd from the catalog as a replacement, they do not sell them in the stores. Have them order one for you from the catalog; we have a hit/miss stock of the rebuild kits for these type of ratchets.... for some reason we have the kits for the 1/4" but not other sizes; our pmt guy maybe can request them. I just order them for people if they want to keep the old style...

00944977000


Craftsman 1/2 in. Drive Ratchet, Fine Tooth
Sears item# 00944977000 Mfr. model# 44977

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00944977000P?vName=Tools
 
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