Greetings Eskimotom here from Elk River, MN, new to this excellent Board with some major decisions ahead.
We have salvageable 16 x 24 wood garage on a badly frost heaved slab.
An old timer friend of ours told a story of how they lifted/moved a garage and repoured a new slab and put the garage back on top. Is this affordable option today? Any idea of the cost? Any suggestions on the smoothing out the situation?
Could more cement simply be poured until in reaches level even if it creeps into the edges the walls as a less invasive stop gap solution? Should I build up a subfloor with OSB all leveled out so the table saw doesn't have to fall into a gully?
The cracks are significant with large missing chunks and there are noticable slants in two walls. The floor weeps moisture in the spring untill the slab's temperature levels out. Looking at the side the slab appears to be about 6 to 8".
Last summer I put insulation and 3/4" Floor grade OSB on the walls and a wood stove to heat the space to get me through the winter. In anticipation of the new space I have held off on further work, but it will need some roofing and soffits replaced the windows and doors replaced. I also want to insulate the roof and open up the ceiling so I can store more stuff up there.
We also happen to be shopping for a modest new garage. I design and build wood canoes and sea kayaks in addition to owning two old VW busses ready to fix up and have acquired a 60's era fiberglass outboard runabout in need of a renovation. My wife wants to make sure we can get the Prius and Dodge Ram under cover in the event of hail and sever winter snow/ice accumulations.
Before our marriage I had a dandy garage/shop and was promised we (I)would have a dandy garage again. We are finally collecting bids on a pole barn type building in the 40 x 40 foot range. It's hard to get people to call back with bids here, everyone must be busy and don't need the work. (any help here would be welcome! excavation, cement, building, etc.)
Is pole barn construction a significant savings over traditional slab and frame construction? Are there durability concerns? Does one cost more to insure than the other? If I keep the shop in the old space would that keep the insurance rate down on the new space - i.e. less fire hazard? I've been pouring over the Board and had yet not found answers to these concerns.
I wanted to move my workshop into the new building and enclose a 16' wide space along one wall so it can be heated without heating the whole building not to mention managing the wood and epoxy dust. I figured propane heat with wood stove assist for heat in the winter.
Considering the cost of new construction should I just fix up the old garage for the shop and use the new space for vehicle storage? We figured for what it would cost to add a wall, ceiling, heat and electric in the new building we could practically build a whole new 16 x 24 ft garage.
I REALLY wanted new shop space but perhaps my wife has a point. It may cost too much money to equip the new building with shop space.
She is also concerned with dividing the space in the new building which makes little sense to me. I will want to fix up the VW Busses in the new space. I feel like I'm asking Tom and Ray the car guys who's right, my wife or me on "Garage Talk" instead of Car Talk.
We're looking forward to your helpful suggestions!
Eskimo Tom
finewoodwatercraft(dot)com
We have salvageable 16 x 24 wood garage on a badly frost heaved slab.
An old timer friend of ours told a story of how they lifted/moved a garage and repoured a new slab and put the garage back on top. Is this affordable option today? Any idea of the cost? Any suggestions on the smoothing out the situation?
Could more cement simply be poured until in reaches level even if it creeps into the edges the walls as a less invasive stop gap solution? Should I build up a subfloor with OSB all leveled out so the table saw doesn't have to fall into a gully?
The cracks are significant with large missing chunks and there are noticable slants in two walls. The floor weeps moisture in the spring untill the slab's temperature levels out. Looking at the side the slab appears to be about 6 to 8".
Last summer I put insulation and 3/4" Floor grade OSB on the walls and a wood stove to heat the space to get me through the winter. In anticipation of the new space I have held off on further work, but it will need some roofing and soffits replaced the windows and doors replaced. I also want to insulate the roof and open up the ceiling so I can store more stuff up there.
We also happen to be shopping for a modest new garage. I design and build wood canoes and sea kayaks in addition to owning two old VW busses ready to fix up and have acquired a 60's era fiberglass outboard runabout in need of a renovation. My wife wants to make sure we can get the Prius and Dodge Ram under cover in the event of hail and sever winter snow/ice accumulations.
Before our marriage I had a dandy garage/shop and was promised we (I)would have a dandy garage again. We are finally collecting bids on a pole barn type building in the 40 x 40 foot range. It's hard to get people to call back with bids here, everyone must be busy and don't need the work. (any help here would be welcome! excavation, cement, building, etc.)
Is pole barn construction a significant savings over traditional slab and frame construction? Are there durability concerns? Does one cost more to insure than the other? If I keep the shop in the old space would that keep the insurance rate down on the new space - i.e. less fire hazard? I've been pouring over the Board and had yet not found answers to these concerns.
I wanted to move my workshop into the new building and enclose a 16' wide space along one wall so it can be heated without heating the whole building not to mention managing the wood and epoxy dust. I figured propane heat with wood stove assist for heat in the winter.
Considering the cost of new construction should I just fix up the old garage for the shop and use the new space for vehicle storage? We figured for what it would cost to add a wall, ceiling, heat and electric in the new building we could practically build a whole new 16 x 24 ft garage.
I REALLY wanted new shop space but perhaps my wife has a point. It may cost too much money to equip the new building with shop space.
She is also concerned with dividing the space in the new building which makes little sense to me. I will want to fix up the VW Busses in the new space. I feel like I'm asking Tom and Ray the car guys who's right, my wife or me on "Garage Talk" instead of Car Talk.
We're looking forward to your helpful suggestions!
Eskimo Tom
finewoodwatercraft(dot)com