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Restored Gas Pump Questions? Whos got 1

bowhuntr311

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So I've had this "idea" in my head for a couple years. I have always liked the old gas pumps with a lighted globe on the top. I've seen a few in people places all restored and they're real neat but they are always a decoration. Does anyone have one in operation?


(give you fair warning I have no idea of the internal workings of a gas pump)

My thought was to restore one externally. And redo the inside to just dispense gas, no meter or anything. Right now my shop does not have a cement pad infront of it. (Hopefully next spring); bury a pipe along the footings of the shop all the way around to the back where I would have a gas barrel elevated off the ground under a lean-to. Between 2 of my doors I would place this pump on the cement and underneth of it the pipe would supply the pump. Meanwhile I envisioned flipping a small switch on the pump or on the wall of the shop that starts a small pump on the tank....And wallah gas is now pressurized to a handle and you can pump gas?

I dont think I'll ever do it but it was an idea I had. Anyone done this or considered this? I dont live far from a gas station by any means but it'd be a neat novelty.
 
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AldeanFan

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All the farmer's around me have fuel tanks with a transfer pump and a hose and nozzle just like on a gas pump. My restored gas pump, which is decorative only, has a new hose and nozzle from TSC. I don't see why you couldn't run a line from a farm fuel tank to a restored gas pump. The pump in an old gas pump is huge and heavy because i had to lift the fuel out of the in-ground tank and would likely have a longer service life than a farm pump.

Neat idea but probably not worth the trouble.
 
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bowhuntr311

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I don't think your insurance agent is going to care for it.
Im pretty good with my agent and my previous agent is a active farmer so I'll have to hit them up and see if they have any words of wisdom.

All the farmer's around me have fuel tanks with a transfer pump and a hose and nozzle just like on a gas pump.

My thought was the pump can push easier than pull and I dont think those pumps are real expensive if a guy had to change one every 10 years?

I buy aviation fuel for all my small engines from the tarmac at my local air port and its basically the same setup. They have a 2500gal barrel sitting about 200 feet from the pump and a standard credit card accepting gas pump like you see at a gas station. You put your card in it reads it and then you hear the pump at the tank kick on and you can start filling whatever you want.

Like I said its just an idea I had.
 

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I am not sure about your state but here in Wisconsin you must have a state permit to bury a tank. TheEPA makes the rules. Plus I don't think any supplier would fill your tank knowing it is not a legal install.
Not worth the trouble if you ask me.
On my old property there was an existing 300 gallon tank buried near my shop. It had not been used in years so one day we dug it out. I found the bottom of the tank was rusted through and the ground smelled like old gas. We back filled the hole with sand and I planted grass. To dispose of the tank I brought it to a salvage yard on a trailer with a tarp covering the tank, we put it in the car crusher and destroyed the evidence. A couple of years later I received a registered letter from the state asking me the status of the tank and to set up an inspection date. I wrote back that I had purchased the property and did not know anything about a buried tank but if they needed hey could come out and look for it.
I found out later that they closed the file in the tank, that is the last I ever heard about it.
 

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I am not sure about your state but here in Wisconsin you must have a state permit to bury a tank. TheEPA makes the rules. Plus I don't think any supplier would fill your tank knowing it is not a legal install.
Not worth the trouble if you ask me.
On my old property there was an existing 300 gallon tank buried near my shop. It had not been used in years so one day we dug it out. I found the bottom of the tank was rusted through and the ground smelled like old gas. We back filled the hole with sand and I planted grass. To dispose of the tank I brought it to a salvage yard on a trailer with a tarp covering the tank, we put it in the car crusher and destroyed the evidence. A couple of years later I received a registered letter from the state asking me the status of the tank and to set up an inspection date. I wrote back that I had purchased the property and did not know anything about a buried tank but if they needed hey could come out and look for it.
I found out later that they closed the file in the tank, that is the last I ever heard about it.
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bgarrett

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Dispensing gas, not practical but you could hook it up to serve as a water outlet and that could be usable
 

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Another problem us just long term storage of regular gas. If your gas has alcohol in it, you might not want to keep it very long. On the other hand, it is fairly common for race shops to buy big drums of race gas and to pump them somehow...

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I have more questions than answers.
Most farms have above ground fuel tanks.

Myself and many others have slip tanks for the back of trucks. I have one that I unload and use to fill my equipment.

Not sure of the distance you plan on pumping.

How close are your neighbors? Your farmer insurance agent will be able to give better information for your area than we can here.

Let us know what you find out and how it works out for you if you do it.
 
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bowhuntr311

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So I spoke to my current insurance agent and my previous agent. Both said that it wouldnt even get a second look.

I dont live real far from a gas station so I dont think it would be real practical but it'd still be neat. Doubt I'll ever do it but its a dream.
 
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The statutes of limitation is long past. Let them try and prove anything!

There is no statute of limitation if there has been no cleanup, regardless of how long ago the spill occurred. If the contamination occurred during your ownership of the property, you're liable until the EPA says the cleanup is good. If the contamination occurred before the property was sold, if you did not complete any procedures to transfer the property without liability or it was not already a cleanup site overseen by a State or Federal Agency, the liability is yours.

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