Resurrecting Odin, the 100+ part vice project

[Redlig]

Just a thought here... will the flanges on the fixed jaw allow it to mount directly to the base without all the swivels? If so then give some thought as to how you mount the base to the table so that you can do so if you want to use it without all the swivels and flex in each one.

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no neat sig line

I suppose you could however I dont see a reason to. The craftsmanship in it is top notch. No flex no movement nothing rock solid when it needs to be and swivels when I want it too

Still trying to lean setting up my signature

 

[Asport]

What a cool and unique vise. Looks like a "transformer" vise

 

[48RON54]

Asport beat me to it......

Definitely looks like a transformer. That thing is bad ***!

 

[Redlig]

Asport beat me to it......

Definitely looks like a transformer. That thing is bad ***!

As cool as it may seem. It is frustrating, I like cool and unique however this one takes the cake I've got probably 15 people trying to find info on it. It's like it's so rare it's not cool

 

[twertsy]

As cool as it may seem. It is frustrating, I like cool and unique however this one takes the cake I've got probably 15 people trying to find info on it. It's like it's so rare it's not cool

What did you want to know?

Odin Universal, incorporated in DE on 12/8/1926 by Henry S., Rudolph E. and Frank W. Odin, company located at 3838 N. Kedzie Ave, Chicago. In 1930, Frank S. Odin is listed as their "agent."

Frank W. invented the telescoping structure for the vise (2 patents) https://patents.google.com/?inventor=Frank+W+Odin

However, Eugene Odin seemed to be the true vise guy. Here are his inventions relating to vises: https://patents.google.com/?q=vise&inventor=Odin

 

[Redlig]

What did you want to know?

Odin Universal, incorporated in DE on 12/8/1926 by Henry S., Rudolph E. and Frank W. Odin, company located at 3838 N. Kedzie Ave, Chicago. In 1930, Frank S. Odin is listed as their "agent."

Frank W. invented the telescoping structure for the vise (2 patents) https://patents.google.com/?inventor=Frank+W+Odin

However, Eugene Odin seemed to be the true vise guy. Here are his inventions relating to vises: https://patents.google.com/?q=vise&inventor=Odin

Mine doesnt have the telescopic part. I'm just curious if there are any more out there. I have the patent from eugene odin however that's all I know. Seems like there would be more somewhere

 

[Cypherian]

http://www.datamp.org/patents/displayPatent.php?number=1818501&typeCode=0

 

[twertsy]

http://www.datamp.org/patents/displayPatent.php?number=1818501&typeCode=0

For some reason, DATAMP only lists one of Eugene's vise patents. If you follow the link I posted above, there are at least 6.

 

[Redlig]

Eh either way I dig it looks great on the new table

 

[1/2 Cup]

Redlig that is one awesome vise an it is coming up well.

 

[PugetDude]

The table turned out fantastic as well. I'd like to offer one suggestion, the threaded studs are really long and being as such are going to be prone to bending right at the jam nut. Personally I'd get some rod couplers and cover as much of the thread as reasonable. It doesn't have to be 100% by any means but it would really help strengthen the assembly and protect the threads from damage.

Or a short piece of close- fitting pipe and a couple of jamb nuts on each leg. Agree with LX, the long threaded extensions are definitely the weak point on an otherwise excellent piece of craftsmanship.

And that vise is just fu@#ing AWESOME!

 

[Redlig]

Or a short piece of close- fitting pipe and a couple of jamb nuts on each leg. Agree with LX, the long threaded extensions are definitely the weak point on an otherwise excellent piece of craftsmanship.

And that vise is just fu@#ing AWESOME!

I got lost for a second are you referring to the threaded rod on the feet?

 

[PugetDude]

Yes. It's a long unsupported distance; creates a bending arm where it threads into the bottom of the leg. I'd cut 4 short pieces of 1/2" S40 pipe (If the thread is 5/8") or S80 (if the thread is 1/2"), length should be about 1-1/2" shorter than the threads. Run a jam nut all the way down on the threads, drop a washer and the pipe over it and then screw the assembly into the bottom of the leg. Level everything up and then snug up the jam nuts.
Or, as LX suggested, you could use a threaded coupler or nuts to increase the size of the section and reduce the length of the unsupported threads.

Your design is great in straight compression, but could give you a problem when you apply a lateral load (i.e moving the bench, torqueing or bending something in that killer vise.)

Great job on the vise and the bench. And welcome to the GJ; look forward to seeing what you tackle next.

 

[Redlig]

Ahhhhhhh sorry gotcha. I cut the threaded rod down screwed them up for the most part. Oh and it 1in 8 thread

 

[wazzabie]

Redlig - Nice work on the restoration and thank you for sharing the pics. The Odin brothers had a shop in Chicago from 1920s-1950s. They were inventors and had several patents. Your vise also optionally came with attachment jaws. The thread below shows some of the jaws available. I have an Odin vise which I was told was a proto type. It has never been used in a production environment and has many jaw pieces. I would like to have new jaws made with brass for the vise. The vise is called the Odin Universal Vise. You will see that your base is different then my base. I'm not surprised since the Odin brothers were inventors and were changing the designs. In the patents there are other styles of mounts for the vise.




This thread from Provincial shows scans from the General Tool Co. catalog of 1939 of Odin vises.

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6549669&postcount=55955

 

[wazzabie]

BTW - It would be great to have new accessory attachments made for the Odin vises. The parts were drop forged. I would like to have an attachment with a brass insert for the jaw made.

 

[Redlig]

Redlig - Nice work on the restoration and thank you for sharing the pics. The Odin brothers had a shop in Chicago from 1920s-1950s. They were inventors and had several patents. Your vise also optionally came with attachment jaws. The thread below shows some of the jaws available. I have an Odin vise which I was told was a proto type. It has never been used in a production environment and has many jaw pieces. I would like to have new jaws made with brass for the vise. The vise is called the Odin Universal Vise. You will see that your base is different then my base. I'm not surprised since the Odin brothers were inventors and were changing the designs. In the patents there are other styles of mounts for the vise.

This Odin vise has been in the family since new. I'm related to the Odin brothers.

This thread from Provincial shows scans from the General Tool Co. catalog of 1939 of Odin vises.

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6549669&postcount=55955

That is freeking awesome! All I want is a little closure on the vice just an idea of its history other than the obvious(the patent). I'm glad you posted especially with your family background. Funny part is I'm working on machining some brass jaws for mine

 

[Redlig]

Oh and your is similar to another members however still quite different than mine the bases are a lot different

 

[wazzabie]

Oh and your is similar to another members however still quite different than mine the bases are a lot different

The other vise that you mention with the base more like mine does not share the same method to attach the jaws like our vises. The other vise uses a large set screw to secure the jaws. I think our design is much better for securing the jaws with the small set screw.

 

[wazzabie]

BTW - The red wrench in the photo is also made by the Odins and is maker marked.

 

[Redlig]

BTW - The red wrench in the photo is also made by the Odins and is maker marked.

Funny you say that because I dont actually own a wrench that fits mine. It's almost like it's an in between size.....I used a crescent wrench

 

[drivesitfar]

WAZ: great looking vise and story and thanks for adding another HUGE piece to the puzzle solving the ODIN VISE HISTORY.

maybe between you and Red you can make some more improvements to those cool old vises you both own.

 

[wazzabie]

Here is another style of the Odin Vise. It shares the same handle design as the other two vises in this thread and the same maker marks. The design also can be found in some of the patents.