Retaining wall?

[62stepside]

I do believe I need a retaining wall for my shop but I was planning on putting the electrical service box on that corner (With the fence). What should I do because I don't want to get down to the foundation with the run off water.

Is there a gutter system for carport shops?

Any advice is helpful.

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[Crossfire05]

I do believe I need a retaining wall for my shop but I was planning on putting the electrical service box on that corner (With the fence). What should I do because I don't want to get down to the foundation with the run off water.

Is there a gutter system for carport shops?

Any advice is helpful.

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Is that a slab on grade or does it having a footing below frost level? Either way it looks like its being undermined by your water runoff. You have to get the water away from the building that is coming off the roof.

 

[62stepside]

Yes it's a slab with a footing. Every corner is dug to virgin soil.

How would I go about getting the run off away? I can't find a gutter system for carport shops

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[Bert_]

Spread some rock around the building, it won't get washed away. It's pretty standard practice for a shed with no gutters. Some guys lay plastic down under the rock to keep the weeds down and keep the water away from the building.

 

[ard]

1. "Dug to virgin soil" is not the same as "footing below frost line", FWIW.

2. Have you talked with the carport vender? I'd think a flashing where the top roof wraps down to the side walls, then a gutter below....

 

[Lelandwelds]

Spread some rock around the building, it won't get washed away. It's pretty standard practice for a shed with no gutters. Some guys lay plastic down under the rock to keep the weeds down and keep the water away from the building.

"Dry creek" is a slight trench filled with rock. You can add perf pipe, filter fabric, gabions, or break water rock.

 

[BillK]

Is it coming off the building or running down along the sides ?? If it is coming off the building is it like that on all four corners ?

I think the gravel idea will take care of it depending on exactly where it is coming from.

 

[62stepside]

It's mostly the corners but this has the most run off of them all and noticeable.

I thought about a gutter down spout into a French drain (just bury a pipe) and force the water out. But not sure on how to get a gutter to do that.

You can see I tried and started to do some extra concrete (slanted) so it wouldn't get stuck on the level surface and go into the building (it still is).


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[lakeroadster]

I have a steel storage shed that sits on a concrete slab that sticks out past the walls... it's a piss poor design.

The previous owner tried concrete, like you, silicone caulk, etc. None of that worked.

Best fix would be to have some aluminum bent that slides behind the building sheathing and then covers the concrete.

Folks that do vinyl / aluminum trim could bend this up for you.

Something like this...

(oh.. post up some photo's of that 62 step side too )

 

[kbs2244]

If the mfg doesn't offer some kind of gutter kit,
I would go with lakesrodster's idea, but higher up to feed roof water into a gutter system.
Then, at ground level, you need a wall apx 5 feet away from the building corner up to slab level and back filled to support the slab.
Then you can connect the 2 side gutters into one and run it over the wall to drain.

The idea is to get the flowing water at least 5 feet away from the building.

But, back to your question, yes, you need a wall and back fill to support the back end of the slab.
And you need it before the next heavy rain.

 

[SeattleSaleen5.0]

What about installing a shallow French drain along the perimeter? Either leave it covered with drainrock or cover it with some sand and grass seed to reduce more erosion. Your drains could go to an underground wet well or day light using the grade of the area. From your pictures it looks like your building sits pretty high compared to the area around so you would get plenty of fall for any pipe.

 

[pmiranda]

Is that a slab on grade or does it having a footing below frost level?

BTW, having your location (at least state) would get better advice about how deep a footing should be.

In any case, if the ground has the right slope away from the building, then all you need is flashing to keep water from running right back into the building and then a way to shed it without erosion. If you have the room around the building then some large gravel to spread it out and keep it from splashing, or as people suggested, use the flashing to direct water into a gutter and then a downspout to direct it where you want it. A rain barrel could be handy if you have a garden nearby, or just direct it to a rocky area where it can soak in without splashing or eroding.

 

[62stepside]

Thanks for all the help. I went out and looked at it last night while it was still raining and noticed that the corner also has a lot of water coming down on the side of the building.

I do plan to have a shallow French drain and try to install a gutter on the roof line (light tan) the length of the shop. I will also put some flashing underneath the concrete portion that sticks out to help direct the water away.

Thanks for the help

Here's the water in a picture of you can see it..

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[kbs2244]

That corner will still need some back filling for support.
Run the down spout past the back fill.

 

[BADSIX]

what you really need is a section of that siding with the upper rib, about 3 in wide. then you could unscrew the bottom of the panel that's at the top of your corner flashing and slip it under. your gutter would slip under the lower part of it . Jay D.

 

[62stepside]

That corner will still need some back filling for support.
Run the down spout past the back fill.

When you mention back fill you mean replace the dirt correct? Not the concrete?

Just want to make sure.

And I plan on taking the bottom section of the roof portion off and attaching a gutter. I hope this helps with the run off.



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