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Returns to Home Depot

wbrian63

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Caveat emptor regarding Home Depot, folks.

We have several sheets of 7/16" OSB remaining from our purchases for the workshop build out. Last batch was bought about 30 days ago at $13.97/sheet. Noticed last weekend that the price had dropped back to $8.47.

HD has a 90-day return policy and it is clearly printed on each receipt.

HD also uses the standard thermal paper for receipts. You know the kind - shiny with clear black lettering, that if left in a hot vehicle (the only kind of vehicle that exists in Houston, TX during this time of year) goes completely blank within about 48 hours. Even leaving a receipt like this in one's wallet will result in a blank receipt after a few weeks of exposure to body heat.

My solution? Make a photo-copy of the receipt.

One advantage to this method is that it allows me to make notations on the copied image as to "what was what" and "what what was for", as the item descriptions can be cryptic.

So, this weekend, with the sheathing task complete, we loaded up 10 sheets of unused as-purchased-condition OSB and headed for Home Depot.

Here's how the process went, more-or-less.

HDRD (Home Depot Returns Clerk): I'm sorry sir, we can't accept a photo-copy receipt.

WBF: Really? Call the MOD (manager on duty), please.

HDMOD: That's company policy. You have to have the original receipt for returns.

WBF: Really? You mean the receipt, that if left in my car since the date of this purchase would now be completely blank?

HDMOD: Yes sir.

WBF: And the logic behind this 'policy' is???

HDMOD: We've had some trouble in the past with people attempting to scam the company with bogus returns.

WBF: (Ignoring the insult cast my direction) I'm none of those people - I paid good money for a product that I do not need that is being returned in completely sellable condition and I want my money back.

HDMOD visibly stiffens at this point.

Alternate HDRC: Sir, do you have the CC that you made the original purchase with on you?

WBF: Yes, why?

AHDRC: We can scan the CC and it will verify that the item was purchased and we can refund the money that way.

WBF: Cool - here you go.

HDMOD walks away.

AHDRC: OK sir - your credit is $91.69.

WBF: Well, something's not right, as I paid $151.23 for the OSB.

AHDRC: That's because without a receipt (which she's holding in her hand - just used it to key in the item # being returned), the system refunds the current price, which is $8.47.

WBF: Well, I DO have a receipt, and I paid $13.97/sheet for the OSB, and I want $13.97/sheet back in refund.

At this point I remembered a situation where I was returning some lumber at another store and the item # on the receipt wasn't readable. The HDRC used a special screen on the terminal to enter the unique receipt ID, and then chose the item I was returning from the list of items presented. (Note that this was also using a photo-copied receipt - just a different HD store.).

WBF: Can't you key in the receipt number and pick the item from the list on that receipt?

HDRC: Yes, but I have to have Manager approval to do that.

WBF: :rolleyes: - whatever you have to do. The price difference is $55.00+tax.

HDMOD returns: OK - what's the problem now.

RC's explain the problem. HDMOD glares at me and OK's the process.

I get my money credited back to my CC and I'm good to go. I thank the RC's for their efforts on my behalf and leave.

Thought briefly about seeking out the HDMOD and wacking him in the head to teach him some manners, but decided that was likely a lost cause.

In general, any time I've dealt directly with HD management, if it's the actual store manager, not an assistant, everything goes smoothly. To a man/woman, they've been courteous and professional. Any time I'm faced with an assistant, they end up being a Little Napoleon/ette and I end up getting pissed and leaving, later to return and get what I need from the "real" manager.

What I don't get is the times I've returned product and had the receipt in-hand, they scan the bar code at the bottom of the receipt. That code has the original purchase store # and other information. Comparing receipts, the numbering seems to be unique. When the receipt is scanned, the entire list of items purchased shows up on the screen. The clerk just chooses the line being returned and adjusts/accepts quantity as required.

Being an IT person by trade, if that process doesn't post the details of that transaction (items being returned to inventory) and indicate internally that those items have been returned, I'd be very surprised. That process, by definition should alter the original transaction to note the returns, blocking any attempt to return something more than once.

I understand that all HD's likely aren't connected real-time to each other, but more likely to a central data processing center that uses a nightly cycle to update inventory counts, purchase history, etc. So, in theory, it would be possible for someone to use the same receipt at multiple HD's to return stolen product.

However, in this case, I'm returning product to the same store from which it was purchased. Further, the items were purchased about 30 days ago, more than enough time for the purchase information to be distributed to all HD stores.

The clerks seem to be under the impression that they can't scan the receipt since it's not on shiny thermal paper. A bar code is a purely visible image - the media it's printed on doesn't matter.

I've got some more stuff to return, all of which is documented on photo-copied receipts. I'm thinking about finding the store manager of the location I frequent and dealing with him directly to get the returns made.

The gotcha in all of this is that the receipts clearly state "Home Depot reserves the right to refuse / limit returns. For further information, please see the returns policy posted in the store." I wonder if it says anything about needing the original receipt???

Sorry for the long post - still thought GJ members would like to know.
 
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sammm

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Worst case you could have gone to your credit card company and disputed the refund difference with them. Glad it worked out.
 

welderwink

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Maybe a letter or a phone call to the real manager complaining about the assistant manager wouldnt be a bad idea. Im sure your not the only one thats had a problem with this.
 

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I think these stupid companies don't realize they lose far more money on lost future sales than they do from someone trying to take advantage of them, when they act like this.

Ironically, I've been going to HD more and more lately since I get better service than Lowes. Not because the workers there are better, but because there are about 90% less customers there than at Lowes. It's almost 1 for 1 these days--no lines in any department :lol_hitti

I pass the Lowes parking lot and it's hard to find a space. Go 2 miles down the road and the only cars in the HD parking lot are the employees :)
 

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HDRC: Yes, but I have to have Manager approval to do that.

WBF: :rolleyes: - whatever you have to do. The price difference is $55.00+tax.

HDMOD returns: OK - what's the problem now.

RC's explain the problem. HDMOD glares at me and OK's the process.

I get my money credited back to my CC and I'm good to go. I thank the RC's for their efforts on my behalf and leave.

You can be sure as **** that if it was the manager's $55 + tax, he wouldn't be glaring.:wtf:
 

blarf

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I went in to a local HD (now that they've bought up one of the local hardware store chains) on a Saturday looking for some advice on retrofitting T8 bulbs in a T12 fixture. I got blank stares and "oh that's impossible" from the two employees who would even give me the time of day.

I sent a nastygram via the HD web site, and got an e-mail back from the manager and the corporate droid whose duty was to read those emails on Sunday with an apology and a note that they were going to train the employees a bit better.
 

rsanter

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tell them to look up the transaction number in the computer based on the recipt copy
they can look up the transaction based on your credit card number, so whats the problem

bob
 

nate379

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I think I posted on here a while back about an experience at a particular Lowe's.

When I asked for help loading about $1000 of lumber onto my trailer it amounted to "We are a DIY store"... in other words... that meant I was supposed to load it myself?? :shocking:

The local Lowe's is good though. Most of the workers actually remember me since I am in there so often :wtf::bounce:
 

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My Lowe's is great. They don't ask any questions on returns, receipt or not. I get a 10% military discount every time I shop there. The employees are friendly and helpful and they offer to help load even the smaller loads. Couldn't be happier. We haven't shopped at our Home Depot in about 6 years. Terrible customer service on consecutive trips stopped our business there.
 
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MikeyUSMC

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I remember when Home Depot was one of the best home improvement stores. They hired friendly people who used to be in the industry. Now.........not so much.
 

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Never had a problem with or without a receipt. The CC or debit card scan brings up the last purchases and they refund based on those stored receipts.
 

StRacerDuke

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year after year I'm seeing HD's product quality decrease and their prices increase. Their hiring policy appears to encourages mentally handicapped employees and managers with no relevant building experience.
 

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Somethimes returns go quick and easy...other times...not so much.

It once took me 45 minutes to return two paint rollers!
 

babzog

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year after year I'm seeing HD's product quality decrease and their prices increase. Their hiring policy appears to encourages mentally handicapped employees and managers with no relevant building experience.

Now that is true to a T.

Fortunately, at the HD nr my work, there's quite a few old fellas in there with loads of experience... the younger kids, not so much.
 

blklegend

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Never had problems with Lowes or Home Depot, but I always keep the receipts on the side at home just incase I need to return stuff which is always the case. Even without, they are good about giving store credit. I think it is just store by store and person by person. I've seen the employees offer help all the time to people to load their vehicles.
 

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never had a problem with hd returns, but i can understand the whole people ripping them off thing.. my dads company used to deal a lot in ways to prevent that from happening.. i can remember the day the first fraud contract came in .. one of the interns said stop selling stuff to black people..i almost **** myself.. needless to say we didn't hire him.
 

Black Moon

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At the end of every job I bring all my extra materials back to HD. Some jobs are 6 months long and the number of items can be between 50 and 75 and takes 20-30 minutes. I've never had a complaint from staff or management. I do have a commercial card but don't know if that makes a difference.

I agree their quality has gone down over the years and it's alarming since i have thousands of shares of their stock. I used to have Lowes but they performed so badly for a few years and I sold all the stock. I was such a fool. I wish my HD was Lowes right now.
 

gatewaysysop

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Worst case you could have gone to your credit card company and disputed the refund difference with them. Glad it worked out.

Agree x10 on this. Would have been my first recourse after getting any grief trying to return the merchandise. Would have been HD's loss, not the credit card company and would have spared you the time wasted dealing with idiots. :mad:

Compliments to you on your restraint though. :thumbup:
 

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Ive been blessed with a new, regionaly owned, lumber company that just rolled into town... they beat HD, Lowe's, and Menard's prices, and deliver FOR FREE, and I live about 10 miles away. They will bring out a single 2x4, if thats what I need. In these days of corporate everything, it appears as maybe the tide is changing and the little guy might still have a chance.

They don't sell much more than meat and potato construction lumber, and tools, and supplies, but I try and give them all that business, and still have to shop in the big box stores for the other related garbage. Ive noticed around here the Menard's stores are always busy and the HD parking lot empty. I will shop at HD if I'm in a hurry, because I can see the place is empty... I dont much care for HD anymore either, I cant really put my finger on it. I used to "live" in their stores, from coast to coast for the last decade doing the traveling superintendent building chain stores. I dont know how Lowes stores are laid out, and my ex used to work their, so I guess that place is a mental block for me, I just dont shop there... no good reason why,,, just dont.
 
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