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Ridge beam sizing

BruceM

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I am building a workshop and would like to know what size glulam beam I should use as the ridge beam. The span will be 18', the building width will be 12' (these are outside dimensions of 2X4 construction walls) and the roof pitch will be 3/12. I live on the N. Oregon coast where snow load is very uncommon, but we do get a couple of inches every few years that rarely lasts more than a few hours.

What size glulam would you recommend and how much would it deflect?

I have gone to the glulam online tables and am a bit confused by the numbers and how they calculated them

Thanks

BruceM
 
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BruceM

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I plan on using 2X6 rafters 16" OC. I will probably notch them to sit atop the ridge beam so they come together, from each side, and meet in the middle. They will have full width bird's mouth notching over the stud walls with about a 12" tail...if that makes any difference.

darkk...I did ask but the answer I got I am not too confident in...so thought I'd ask here.

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darkk...I did ask but the answer I got I am not too confident in...so thought I'd ask here.
BruceM

Let me guess - they just told you to use a plain old 2X6 right? I don't believe that the ridge beam takes any load. It ties the rafters together at the top. That's pretty much it?
 

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Are you gonna have a flat ceiling or a vaulted ceiling? If your going to have a flat ceiling with ceiling joists you don't need that big ol beam, a 2x6 will do all you need to do.
 

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You start by taking note of any snow, wind and seismic loads as required by your zoning and building codes. These things are determined by code, not your anecdotal evidence. Determine if the member is a ridge beam (supporting half the rafter loads) or a ridge board which is just a place to line up the rafters. Use the actual dead loads for all the members, roofing and sheathing, insulation and ceiling materials and lighting and any other anticipated live loads for storage above the ceiling. Do the calcs and you're set. By the way, gluelams are NOT the thing to use for a ridge beam. Microlams or LVL's (Laminated Veneer Lumber) as they are called are much preferred. If you have a ridge beam, then you need to transfer those loads down to the ground ate each end of the beam. If an opening occurs under one end, like for a garage door, you will have a large point load to deal with for your header.
Oh,
You have already checked the zoning requirements based on your zoning, including setbacks, height and area requirements etc., looked for utility and other easements on your mortgage and any other surveys, checked into homeowner association rules (if any), and looked for deed restrictions, right?
And that 3/12 pitch.........I like to get 12/12 to shed rain, much less snow. Gives storage above the ceiling joists too! Also think about design that will complement the main house and surrounding structures and the environment it is in. Think about window and door placement to give you pleasant outside views as you work and efficient materials handling from purchase, storage, manufacturing and back out of the building. Think about maxing out the height for more usable spaces. Think about making the space expandable for future uses. Think about adjacent paving for outdoor workspace. Think about lean to roofs for outdoor storage. Think about skylights for light and ventilation. Think about as big a door opening as the structure will allow to accommodate big projects. Etc. Etc.
When you get all the requirements from zoning, code etc., if you are not required to get any engineers stamp for the structure, you will proceed like this to size the ridge beam.
Take the total live and dead loads of the areas contributing to the beam. Figure the load/LF on the beam. Find a table that has the deflection you want to allow, say 1/240 or 1/360, and look for the LVL or combination of LVL's that will meet or exceed that load. Note the Fb and species and manufacturer and get that beam. Note that with a ridge beam the ceiling joists and how they are secured to the wall top plates, and the rafters and how they are secured to the walls, are as important as the beam. I like to use metal fasteners to secure each member to the next. That way the joists don't allow the walls to spread, allowing the joists to spread and the ridge beam to become sway backed. I use joist hangers at the rafter to ridge beam, Simpson connectors at the rafter tails, and also at the ceiling joist to wall connection. You may have additional seismic requirements for connecting the wall framing to the foundation. Also be careful when you have a large opening for a door with small areas of wall left on either side of it. You may need to create shear walls to prevent racking and collapse of this wall from wind and seismic forces.
 
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If you are using regular ceiling joists, then you only need a 2x6x?? ridge board. You size RAFTERS based on load and span, not the ridge. However, if you plan to use a vaulted ceiling, then you'll need an engineered ridge with end supports, sized based on the roof loading that it will carry.
 
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My house (1947) only has a 1" x 8' ridge beam and 2x4 roof rafters with a 7/12 pitch. It just made it through about 5 separate 3 foot snow storms this winter. I live in eastern Ct.
Scared the hell out of me but it held like a champ.:shocking:
 

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My house (1947) only has a 1" x 8' ridge beam and 2x4 roof rafters with a 7/12 pitch. It just made it through about 5 separate 3 foot snow storms this winter. I live in eastern Ct.
Scared the hell out of me but it held like a champ.:shocking:

Our old 1926 house used a 2x4 ridge and 2x4 rafters over a 30' span. Try to find that in the span tables LOL. And we jacked it around and leveled it back in 1997 - no issues with the ceiling or roof.
 

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My house (1947) only has a 1" x 8' ridge beam and 2x4 roof rafters with a 7/12 pitch. It just made it through about 5 separate 3 foot snow storms this winter. I live in eastern Ct.
Scared the hell out of me but it held like a champ.:shocking:

You have a ridge board, not beam. It supports nothing, and is in fact supported by the rafters. Typical construction back in the day. Many of these boards split lengthwise as different rafters sag by different amounts because ceiling joists were too few and not properly secured to side walls. Side walls bow out, especially in the middle. Roof ridge becomes swaybacked. Garage doors bind. Temporary fix is cables from sidewall to sidewall. I'm looking at one just like this out my window right now.

Permanent fix is pulling sidewalls in all along their length with a come-along. Putting properly sized and spaced ceiling joists in with good connections to side walls (I like metal brackets). And then, as rafters are raised to their proper positions and also secured to the walls with metal brackets, the swayback in the ridge board disappears.

Left as is, structure will eventually collapse!!!
Contributing factors are: Concrete slabs without footings that are put on unprepared and uncompacted earth with poor drainage and then crack and heave from frost, people who wait too long for new roofing, allowing leaks to damage structure and people who, instead of stripping off old roof down to the deck, put a new layer of shingles on top of old, doubling the weight on the structure.

They didn't build everything better "in the old days".
Bill (Builder who has seen many of these)

PS. Your saving grace may be the 7/12 pitch which helps shed snow and good ceiling joist quantities and connections. You probable also have collar ties which help triangulate the rafters and create a bit of a truss like structure.
 

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Also FWIW - I have a 12 x 16 Hawk portable building that uses 2x4 rafters. It's a weird build, with 2 2x6 boards running longways at the peak and a second 2x6 running long ways about 1/2 way to the wall on either side. There are no joists, roof load is carried to the ends. It has a tin roof, so the roof load is maybe 1 lb sq/ft. We had a foot of snow on the roofs last winter which is a HUGE amount here. No issues with the old house, the new house or the shed. Also - our 2001 built house uses 2x6 rafters 24" OC with a 2x8 ridge.

IMHO, for a 12 x 18, if the OP used a 2x6 ridge, 2x6 rafters and 2x6 joists, 7/16 decking and nailed everything properly, you could set a car on the roof.
 
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If your rafters directly oppose each other, all you need is a 1x as a ridge board. If you are doing something strange with a beam that support a load, it needs to be calculated.
 

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Like others have posted, if you're using typical rafter/ridge/ ceiling joist construction, then you do not require a ridge beam and simple framing lumber as a ridge board would suffice. Calculating a ridge beam if you're planning on supporting the roof load at the ridge as well can be done at your local lumber yard that sells the LVL product that you intend to use. They can also point you in the right direction for lumber connectors and fasteners. Be aware that the pitch you're proposing is shallower than that reccomended by asphalt shingle manufacturers to protect from leakage. 4/12 is usually the minimum for a typical shingle roof. Just from a good looks point of view, a steeper pitch will do you a world of good and give you more options for roofing material.
 

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the best buy and you cant beat it for strength is a microlam beam ... I have 25 feet span gable to gable and no sag after 14 years. not pricey either
 
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