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Looking for a new right angle drill. Doesn't matter if its electric or air, but the main thing I need is something small and compact. Looing for ideas and recommendations.

This will be mainly used for drilling out broken bolts in tight spaces.

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I have my eye on this old Makita 9.6v right angle cordless. Local CL, $45. Always wanted one, but they were a bit pricey. (Now that they're "obsolete" technology they've come down into my price range). For real manuverability the stick battery drills were great.

And since I'm invested in the drill style I have multiple batteries and chargers. :thumbup:
 
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I’m leaning towards the Milwaukee 2415-20

Anyone have experience with one of those?
 

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Dewalt and Milwaukee both make right angle drills (20 and 12 volt respectively) that are quite compact. I always recommend the 90 degree 1/4 hex adapters used with 1/4 hex drill bits for one-off jobs but for drilling out bolts, you're going to want something more substantial and you'll probably want to run better bits than are available in 1/4 hex drive.

The milwaukee is a 1/4" shallower (3-3/4" vs 4") but the dewalt probably has more power since it's a 20 volt tool. The Milwaukee is rated at 100 in-lbs and I don't see a torque spec for the dewalt. Both are 3/8 chucks.
 
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I have to m12 Milwaukee, it’s compact and light works fine. Unless you have to drill some large holes or run in some big lag screws the 12 volt works.
 

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I’m leaning towards the Milwaukee 2415-20

Anyone have experience with one of those?

I have the M18 version of this and would not recommend it unless you are drilling small holes in wood. The M12 would probably be even more gutless.

I used to have a Dewalt 14.4 and it would blow the Milwaukee away. The batteries were shot, so I thought I did the right thing by getting a Milwaukee as everything else I have is Milwaukee. I would have been much better off buying new Dewalt batteries.

disclaimer: My right angle drill is about six years old. Milwaukee may have made improvements since then.
 
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I’m leaning towards the Milwaukee 2415-20

Anyone have experience with one of those?

We have these at work. They are big, awkward, and definitely do not fit your request for “small and compact.”

If you don’t care if it is air or electric, the only small and compact ones are going to be air powered. We have CP and IR at work as well. They are very nice units. The IR could definitely use a better muffler design though, as it is quite noisy, but has great power.

Even some of the cheaper import air units are not all bad. A little bit less power, and often have cheesy chucks, but chucks can be swapped out for better ones if you find them binding or slipping. Largely, the innards seem to be reasonably well built. Clean them really well before using them. Before plugging them into air and running them, pull the trigger and fill them up with some Blaster Air Tool Conditioner, and let it sit for 10-15 minutes. Once you do that, plug it in, use a rag to cover the exhaust, and blow all that **** out. You would be amazed how much junk was inside the air passages and motor. Cheap drills usually are not assembled in the best environments. Once the **** is out, run it like normal with a couple drops of air tool oil into the air fitting. Even cheap ones last a long time if cared for properly.
 

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Big and awkward? Not air tool small but this is not what I would call big and awkward, especially when you don't need to attach a hose.

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Now a Hole Hawg, that is big and awkward.
 

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IMO, anything with a quick-change chuck is really too bulky. The best right-angle drill I've used was this Makita corded unit. The "drive end" is ridiculously compact.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Makita-4-Amp-3-8-in-Reversible-Angle-Drill-DA3010F/202517730

They also have 18v and 12v battery powered versions:
https://www.makitatools.com/products/details/AD03Z
https://www.makitatools.com/products/details/BDA350Z

The 12v version has got to be about the most compact right angle drill on the market. I'm not sure if anyone has anything comparable.
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Size is relative. That drill is definitely small enough for the pictured stud work job a couple posts above. Compared to other jobs though, that is a pretty large and open environment. If working on machinery or certain automotive applications, those electric ones are just too large, too bulky, too hard to grip in certain instances.

My biggest complaint is the length and the diameter of the electric ones. When your hands are oily, it is very hard to get a strong grip on them because your hand can’t close around it. I’m a reasonably strong and well built guy, and I do find it difficult to hold the Milwaukee at work. With our IR and CP air drills, I can completely close my hand around it for a good grip, even with oily hands and my arm snaked up out of sight in a piece of machinery. Can’t do that with our electric drills. If I can fit an electric one, it can easily be pulled from my hand when a drill grabs the burr as it punches through steel. Good knuckle busters too when they grab.

A couple bonus tips for tight spaces;

1) A block and barrel style 360 degree air swivel allows the hose fo fall anywhere it needs to. Couple that with a little air tool, and you can weasel that sucker in just about anywhere, especially if using stubby drill bits, not traditional jobbers which are about twice as long.

2) For when you really need a small drill, take a stubby and cut the shank off, and just chuck it up on the flutes. Cut it short enough so that you have about an 1/8” more flute exposed than the thickness of material you are trying to drill though. On service jobs, I have found this very useful when you only have a 4” gap to work with.
 
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IMO, anything with a quick-change chuck is really too bulky. The best right-angle drill I've used was this Makita corded unit. The "drive end" is ridiculously compact.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Makita-4-Amp-3-8-in-Reversible-Angle-Drill-DA3010F/202517730

They also have 18v and 12v battery powered versions:
https://www.makitatools.com/products/details/AD03Z
https://www.makitatools.com/products/details/BDA350Z

The 12v version has got to be about the most compact right angle drill on the market. I'm not sure if anyone has anything comparable.
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That Mikita with the recessed chuck is by far the best electric 90degree I have ever used. It puts the height profile right inline with air tools. If length doesn’t matter, and you don’t have air, that is definitely without question the drill to use.
 
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For your application I wouldn't recommend electric simply because they are always going to more bulky than air, or if it is actually small enough to get into tight areas it won't have much power. I've got this air one from CP and it works perfect for your intended uses.

https://www.amazon.com/Chicago-Pneumatic-8941008790-CP879C-Angle/dp/B07CM3JXY6/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=chicago+pneumatic+angle+drill&qid=1606433900&s=hi&sr=1-1

This is the issue. If you are reaching for a right angle drill to deal with a broken bolt somewhere where your normal drill is going to be too big, you need super small with reasonable power. Milwaukee is decent but CP (like Sean has) or the AP I have are simply significantly smaller, more powerful, as well as half the cost of Milwaukee. Just make sure you get a reversible one because it is worth trying a left handed drill and maybe saving some aggravation and thread repair.
 

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I have various ones and most often use corded Milwaukee or Makita.
 

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The Makita is nice, heavy duty unit. But, I find them awkward, and knuckle busters.
Between the manual chuck and no clutch, no thanks. (and I have one!)

Those purpose built right angle Milwaukees are a bit gutless until they go FUEL.

My pick, the Milwaukee 2505 4-in-1 drill. The right angle attachment is good, plus you get all the other heads. Not as low profile, but the ergonomics are great, and it rotates.
 

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I like my aircat.
 

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I have my eye on this old Makita 9.6v right angle cordless. Local CL, $45. Always wanted one, but they were a bit pricey. (Now that they're "obsolete" technology they've come down into my price range). For real manuverability the stick battery drills were great.

And since I'm invested in the drill style I have multiple batteries and chargers. :thumbup:

Looks like I might be able to get a Makita RA drill after all. It pays to keep scrounging and speaking up! :lol_hitti
 

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I'm retired, just doing things around the properties. My Craftsman C3 RAD works fine for my needs. I'm usually working in wood, and haven't had to do much in metal where a RAD would be required.

The thing I'm having an issue with is involves the Li-ion batteries, the 19.2V C3 batteries in the 4 a.hr. size which are Craftsman don't seem to be available anymore. The smaller a.hr. Craftsman batteries are still available, but they commonly sell for near $100.

Since I suspect the batteries are 18650 cells, it shouldn't be that-hard to replace 'em, but with the spot-welds, how do you disassemble them? Drill/grind the spot weld and use a small chisel until they separate?
 

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I had an old 9.6 right ankle Makita that I got rid of a few years ago and went with the M12 Fuel Milwaukee. The Milwaukee was definitely better. I also have the corded version of the right angle Matita as well that works good. The other angle drill I have used the most is my older corded Milwaukee angel drill, which I believe was called a "close quarters" drill.
 

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I've been using this Makita drill since I bought it in 1980. No modern features, of course, but it is still going strong all these years later. I've never had occasion to use it in really tight places, like some have mentioned, but for my needs it has served well.

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Something else to consider, milwaukee installer kit 2505 comes with a few different adapters. I just got one & only used it a few times but so far seems well thought out.
 
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For your application I wouldn't recommend electric simply because they are always going to more bulky than air, or if it is actually small enough to get into tight areas it won't have much power. I've got this air one from CP and it works perfect for your intended uses.

https://www.amazon.com/Chicago-Pneumatic-8941008790-CP879C-Angle/dp/B07CM3JXY6/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=chicago+pneumatic+angle+drill&qid=1606433900&s=hi&sr=1-1

I decided to order the CP. Thanks to everyone for your input!
 
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