Rim Racks & a Second Floor

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Just thought I'd share some of this past years progress in reducing clutter without reducing stock in my garage. Not completely installed yet, but these are the rim racks I built into the wall seperating the sides of my 40x60. The opposing side of this wall has another tire rack suspended out from the wall @ same height as this side. Basically I've made a pair of 24x40's out of this polebarn with 12' on end for office shown in pic, constantly heated storage, etc, with a second floor being added above it.

 

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82 views and no reply. Don't worry, my skins pretty thick, like my head, if ya wanna say someting critical I welcome a chance to view another opinion and maybe adjust my thinking or construction. Or at least explain the idea behind what's done already.

Here's some pics of how I cut out the trusses for a second floor. With 12' eaves from finished 1st flr. I set the top of finished 2nd flr @ 8' and then needed 3' more to use the above. Trusses are std 4/12 pitch.

For descriptive purpose, I'll call trusses N.-S. I've supported every other truss with 4x4 post E.-W. and used 4x4 base to spread the load on the concrete below. That's @ 10'-6" S. of N. wall. So there's ample storage in that 4' high erea below the trusses @N. to eave. Built that into a wall, w/2-2x8's to carry truss bottom chord to N. @ cutout. The trusses have been added to, full distance of top chord w/ 2x10's to eave @ N. w/2x8 under top chord to complete the bracing. The idea behind that was to keep the perimeter wall load bearing and not move the load into the cutout tho all precautions have been taken for the interior walls to bear this load. Additional matl added to strengthen where the 2x10 ceiling branches off top chord in both sandwich and gussets. A load bearing wall of similar construction was put 4' S. of the peak to divide the rooms of second floor. The S. room(12x16 in main shop) is phase two, and will require a new roof above which will lead to a SW "L shape" to the shop and have W. 15' eave. I'm posting the pics N--S, hopefully they'll show up that way & aren't too big.

 

[Iron-Iceberg]

I like the old wood wall with the license plates. Looks like a cool place to hang out.

 

[Jheart]

RARR! Something Critical! Kidding.
The racks look awesome. Think about how many guys waste their high wall space. Good looking trussing too! More pics, escpecially as you get underway with your second floor expansion. Good luck dude.

 

[ryno]

in pic 2of your orginal post with teh tire rack showing.
how is that supported?
i dont see any support from the top or the bottom?
also how did you get those tractor tires up there, thats alot of weight.

 

[autoist]

Talk me through how you modified those trusses, please.

 

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Well thanx all! The barn sided 'office' is just a 9'-8"x10'0 glorified mud room for automobilia. I might actually use the desk sometime, but mostly it's a show-off room for keeping coldness out of the shop when using the end man-door. The sub-floor above it is 1x6's from the same corncrib I tore down. Need to work on the graying mix and finish staining the 2x8's above when it warms up. I'll post progress when I get to building the cabinets and the shelves that'll appear to be "hung" from the old wooden block and tackle by knotted hemp rope.

Maybe the ones looking like tractor tires are teh snow tires? Those are 15" mid50's Dodge smooth steelies. I was inspired by enjenjo of the RRT's organization in his storage, and over time discovered in my previous shop that the 2x6's I'd been using weren't necessary since the 2x4's in the quickly built later racks never bowed. So, when I brought this stuff to the new shop I made it all 2x4 const for space savings! The tire rack is supported by the 2x4 uprights. And I think it's cross braced as well. Honestly I'd have to go look again!lol It's diagonally braced upward on the other side of the wall.

I'll see if I can scan my drawings thru the other computer, transfer and show how both the wheel racks and truss modifications were made specifically later on.

 

[ryno]

i can see now that the tire racks have support from under.i guess i didnt look that hard before, they seem to blend in with the rest of whats going on there.

 

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Alright, here's the info. Not a good plan elevation. I couldn't find the originals since I'm also renovating the Victorian home and am currently in the library So, I made a copy of one of my working prints still in the garage.

I also scratched out a new rack detail. I drew it 5-times and didn't build it exactly to any of those plans! This is what's there. Except that while the cross braces are @ 4'-0c/c, the diag's are @ 8'-0"c/c.

Be happy to answer any questions... Might help to know that main struct members are yellow pine also. Used almost a case of HD LiquidNails, combination fastening(16D&screws) over fastened everything. It has held excess of 10" snow for days this winter already without budging. The concrete under the wall behind the post to left of peak in dwg. is 6"dx12"wd channel of otherwise 4" and insulated below. It's 12"@post that will carry peak and ridge beam of phase2 rearward(L) addition. That post and load bearing wall are shown in the last previously added pic. I'm no pro. So if this seems like overkill or just adequate, feel free to tell me!