Rocksolid polurea

[Turblue]

Who has used it? How was the application process and has it been durable? I see it's on sale at a local box store. I have used rustoleum in a previous garage. It was ok.

 

[SunsetsAndFriends]

I have not used this product. I have read many posts on various forums. From everything that I've read and all the products that I've compared, the cost of using RockSolid or Rust Oleum is nearly the same as using a better epoxy product with a urethane clear coat.

The RockSolid directions say that porous concrete may "drink up" the coating. In those cases the coating should not be stretched but instead purchase 1 or 2 extra kits depending on the size of the floor to be covered. Well think about it, all the pros on this site suggest diamond profiling the concrete floor for proper porosity to get proper adhesion. So with a porous floor, expect to need the extra 1 or 2 kits.

1 kit covers 250 square feet but they do not specify the thickness of the coating, at least I cannot find the answer. The kit is on sale at Menards right now for $99. The clear coat covers 250 square feet but not sure the mil thickness either. The cost is $124 right now. So a 2 car garage of about 500 square feet is going to use at least 2 kits of the base and 2 kits of the clear, which comes to $446.

Now if your floor "drinks up" the coating, then you end up having to spend another $99-$198 for 1 or 2 extra kits. You can see that on a 500 square foot floor, the cost is adding up.

You could opt for 100% solids product such as Epoxy-Coat from Lowe's, a kit that includes 3 gallons of base and 3 gallons of clear for $430.95. Here's the link:

http://www.lowes.com/pd_546042-2137...at&pl=1&currentURL=?Ntt=epoxy-coat&facetInfo=

With the above kit, you would get 9.6 mil of base coat at 500 square feet and then another 9.6 mil of clear coat at 500 square feet. This assumes ideal conditions and no waste. But even with the 10% waste that Fred factors into his Wolverine kits, you should be able to put down a total of thickness of 17 mils over 500 square feet for $430.95 + tax. This seems like a better deal to me.

I am not affiliated with Epoxy-Coat in any way. And I have not used their product. I have read a lot of forum posts from people who were happy or had some problems but Christine at Epoxy-Coat helped them out.

I'm actually looking at using a product from Versatile Building Products for my floor, though I haven't made my final decision yet. I'm looking at Versatile because they're focus with the chip floors is applying the chip or some people say flake to rejection, meaning covering the base coat completely. This requires a lot more chip. With their system, the chip is sold more affordably, so the overall cost is good. Other suppliers charge more for their chip. I might consider Epoxy-Coat as a viable option if the cost of bulk chip through them were more affordable.

 

[Turblue]

Thanks for the info.....

 

[Fredartic]

Thank you very much for your évaluation from many researches. Let us know what you'll decide.

 

[SunsetsAndFriends]

Turblue - I should also point out that I started considering using an epoxy type coating on my garage floor after seeing Rust Oleum EpoxyShield Professional and RockSolid at my local Menards on sale. Then I searched here at TGF to find out more about these products. And to figure out what I really want in a floor.


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[Turblue]

What you figure out for floor type? I built a new house and a shop in the back yard. So looking to do both. I just park vehicles in the attached and the rear I us for tinkering, welding, powder coating etc. so want something durable in there. But most likely do the same in both. I've searched and read a pile on here. Haven't really seen anything stand out from the rest. Also lots of sales pitches to.

 

[SunsetsAndFriends]

Turblue - very nice shop! I haven't fully settled on a floor coating yet. The way these products are marketed, it is harder to compare them to each other. I have read from some other posters in the forum that one should just pick a brand/system and go with it.

One thing that I think is really neat is a floor with the chip put down to rejection. It covers all or nearly all the base color and then a clear coat is applied over. The floor then has a granite sort of look. I suspect a floor system like that to really hide imperfections and be more forgiving to a DIY'er. Here is a video showing the install of what I mean.

I have been leaning toward Versatile Building Products. Here is a link to some of the kits they sell. I checked, though, and the kit price is the same as buying each component of the kit separately, so there is no savings by purchasing a kit.

https://www.garagecoatings.com/store/garage-flooring-kits

I have read a lot on the forum that it is better to figure out what kind of product you need based on any special considerations, wants, needs, etc. and then just pick the products you need to do the job, instead of focusing on kits. This is all new to me too.

I also have considered Legacy Industrial products. I did purchase a DiamaShroud from them recently. This will provide dust collection for my DiamaBrush that attaches to my 7" angle grinder. I'll use this to profile my floor. I might use it to profile the whole floor or just edges and rent a floor buffer with larger DiamaBrush unit. Home Depot rents these for about $100 per day.

I have also considered Epoxy-Coat. I like that the product can be ordered directly from Epoxy-Coat but it can also be gotten from Lowe's. This is nice because in a pinch I could drive about half an hour or so to Lowe's if I needed to do that.

I am really leaning toward a full chip floor. If I do that, then Versatile is a more cost effective system for me. They sell 50# of mixed flake for $129 if you buy liquids from them. I was quoted significantly more by two other vendors. If I were not interested in the full chip floor, I would be leaning more toward Epoxy-Coat or Legacy Industrial, in large part because both have reps on the boards who answer questions, etc. and there are a lot users on the boards who have installed these products. Wolverine products also get good reviews and installations of the Wolverine products can be found in the forums too.

 

[bdamico]

I am really leaning toward a full chip floor. If I do that, then Versatile is a more cost effective system for me. They sell 50# of mixed flake for $129 if you buy liquids from them. I was quoted significantly more by two other vendors. If I were not interested in the full chip floor, I would be leaning more toward Epoxy-Coat or Legacy Industrial, in large part because both have reps on the boards who answer questions, etc. and there are a lot users on the boards who have installed these products. Wolverine products also get good reviews and installations of the Wolverine products can be found in the forums too.

Search around. There's a place that's been discussed here before that just makes and sells flakes.

 

[retfr8flyr]

I also have considered Legacy Industrial products. I did purchase a DiamaShroud from them recently. This will provide dust collection for my DiamaBrush that attaches to my 7" angle grinder. I'll use this to profile my floor. I might use it to profile the whole floor or just edges and rent a floor buffer with larger DiamaBrush unit. Home Depot rents these for about $100 per day.

I have also considered Epoxy-Coat. I like that the product can be ordered directly from Epoxy-Coat but it can also be gotten from Lowe's. This is nice because in a pinch I could drive about half an hour or so to Lowe's if I needed to do that.

I am really leaning toward a full chip floor. If I do that, then Versatile is a more cost effective system for me. They sell 50# of mixed flake for $129 if you buy liquids from them. I was quoted significantly more by two other vendors. If I were not interested in the full chip floor, I would be leaning more toward Epoxy-Coat or Legacy Industrial, in large part because both have reps on the boards who answer questions, etc. and there are a lot users on the boards who have installed these products. Wolverine products also get good reviews and installations of the Wolverine products can be found in the forums too.

Couple of things for you to think about.

If you plan on doing welding there isn't any floor covering that will hold up. You should plan on some welding mats to use when you weld. I would talk to Scotty at Legacy and see what he recommends for the floor in that area.

Wolveirne coating are great, I did my floor with their products and couldn't be happier with the quality. Unfortunately I think Fred is still out with medical problems, so their products aren't available. I could be wrong but I haven't heard anything about him being back.

If you are going to be doing a lot of work in there, I would hesitate going full flake. I have that on my floor and although I love the feel and look of the floor, it makes finding anything small that you drop very difficult. I don't do much mechanical work anymore, due to my age and arthritis but I still do woodworking in my garage and finding screws and such that I drop is a real pain.

 

[SunsetsAndFriends]

Couple of things for you to think about.

If you plan on doing welding there isn't any floor covering that will hold up. You should plan on some welding mats to use when you weld. I would talk to Scotty at Legacy and see what he recommends for the floor in that area.

Wolveirne coating are great, I did my floor with their products and couldn't be happier with the quality. Unfortunately I think Fred is still out with medical problems, so their products aren't available. I could be wrong but I haven't heard anything about him being back.

If you are going to be doing a lot of work in there, I would hesitate going full flake. I have that on my floor and although I love the feel and look of the floor, it makes finding anything small that you drop very difficult. I don't do much mechanical work anymore, due to my age and arthritis but I still do woodworking in my garage and finding screws and such that I drop is a real pain.

retfr8flyr - very solid points. I hadn't thought much about the having difficulty finding small things on the floor with full flake. It makes sense now that you mention it.

 

[retfr8flyr]

With the colors already in your garage, I would go for a light gray and either very light, or no flakes at all. I would do a good primer, the base color coat and then I would do 3 coats of clear urethane. I would put some shark grit or something similar in the last coat. That will cut down some on the sheen of the floor and give you better traction with any liquid on the floor. I know 3 coats of urethane sounds like a lot but I did 2 coats on mine and wish I had done 3. The urethane over epoxy makes the floor almost indestructible. I have dragged floor jacks across it, constantly move 600 lb machines on mobile bases around on it, dropped things on it. I dropped a cordless drill once from the top of a ladder and it landed drill point down, it bent the drill bit but I couldn't find the spot where it hit the floor. With everything I have done to mine it still looks like the day I finished installing it.

The biggest thing flakes are good for is hiding flaws in the floor. After grinding my floor I had many places the were not level, typical house garage stuff. With a single color and no flakes all the little imperfections, that you can't even see now, would have been very noticeable. This is one reason to go with light flakes instead of none.

 

[Turblue]

Thanks for the input. I like the idea of urethane coats over base. Was plAnning on light flake just. Also all the tig and mig I do is small stuff on the bench, but the welding matts are a great idea.

 

[SunsetsAndFriends]

Thanks for the input. I like the idea of urethane coats over base. Was plAnning on light flake just. Also all the tig and mig I do is small stuff on the bench, but the welding matts are a great idea.

Whatever you end up doing, we would all love to see pics and a write up of how it all goes.