Roll-up door electric opener

[99SVT]

Looking at possibly doing this to the doors on my shop, and was wondering what was a good one to go with?
I have three roll-up doors on the front of my shop, so I probably would do one at a time, instead of buying all three at once, to offset cost.
Here's one of the doors, right after they installed it:

 

[RollUpDoor]

Go to the manufacture website and look for a motor kit. An operator will turn the barrel on this door not the shaft.

You need a special sprocket that bolts to endcap of that barrel and then you can hook up an operator to it.

 

[bigdav160]

I have two different garages with rollup doors. Two different brands of operators, gliderol and pantheon.

I seem to remember the gliderol required a ring gear to be riveted inside the tube. The new versions might not have that requirement.

The pantheon, IIRC, bolted to the end of the tube.

 

[Schtauffer]

Go to the manufacture website and look for a motor kit. An operator will turn the barrel on this door not the shaft.

You need a special sprocket that bolts to endcap of that barrel and then you can hook up an operator to it.

Agreed. Good luck.

 

[99SVT]

There is the problem... I do not know who yhe manufacturer is, and there does not appear to be any manufacturer identification on it.

I will have to email the builder and see if he can shed some light on it.

 

[RollUpDoor]

It's probably not some something you would want to attempt.

First you'd need a lift to to support the door while the mounting bracket is removed and the sprocket is installed. The shaft is under spring tension! Then you would need to fab a mount for the operator. Then run power to it and make all the adjustments. Commercial operators are also expensive.

If you are going to drive in and out a lot. It's worth it, but they are short and light doors. I would keep with the pull rope. Get an estimate from a door company and see if it's worth the cost.

 

[bigdav160]

Sure looks like a Janus International door

They have a facility local to me and the brand I buy. To install the operator you'll have to remove the the bracket from one end. It'll be opposite the end with the tension adjustment ratchet.

 

[99SVT]

Sure looks like a Janus International door

They have a facility local to me and the brand I buy. To install the operator you'll have to remove the the bracket from one end. It'll be opposite the end with the tension adjustment ratchet.

You might be right, bigdav.... on Janus site, there is a model 2000. All three of mine have some numbers written on the channels in marker.... 2/2 10'x10' 2000.... I would assume the 2000 referred to the model number.

 

[Daedalus]

Bumping this thread from out of nowhere lol. Did a google search, and back on the GJ am I.

So anyone have any more inputs on Janus doors and the Pantheon opener? I was at one of their distributors today, talked to the manager, took some pics. I'm looking at the model 2500, 14x12. I like how the opener is integrated into the tube, and that it has a built in manual chain, but it does not look like it has many options. E.g., no external key pad. Also, is it secure? Or can someone with a frequency scanner get into my garage? Any comments on longevity/quality, noisiness, etc?
The price is right it seems. I can swing by with my trailer, have them load it with a forklift, and then drive home to have my neighbor install it. Sure would beat the $4500 1st quote I got.

Thanks!

 

[Charles (in GA)]

I'll leave my post, but did not realize till now that this was thread from the dead.

Sure looks like a Janus International door

They have a facility local to me and the brand I buy. To install the operator you'll have to remove the the bracket from one end. It'll be opposite the end with the tension adjustment ratchet.

I agree, the mounting brackets are a unique design and identical to what is shown on their web site.

Here in the Atlanta area, the most common door is made by DABC, Doors and Building Components, of Douglasville, GA. They have a different style bracket.

The one shown in the pic has a manual operator chain on the RH side. You have to specify what side of the door the operator is to be installed on.

Charles

 

[Charles (in GA)]

Bumping this thread from out of nowhere lol. Did a google search, and back on the GJ am I.

So anyone have any more inputs on Janus doors and the Pantheon opener? I was at one of their distributors today, talked to the manager, took some pics. I'm looking at the model 2500, 14x12. I like how the opener is integrated into the tube, and that it has a built in manual chain, but it does not look like it has many options. E.g., no external key pad. Also, is it secure? Or can someone with a frequency scanner get into my garage? Any comments on longevity/quality, noisiness, etc?
The price is right it seems. I can swing by with my trailer, have them load it with a forklift, and then drive home to have my neighbor install it. Sure would beat the $4500 1st quote I got.

Thanks!

Are you sure you want a roll up door? They do not seal tight, and cannot be made to seal tight. Lots of air leakage on the side due to the corrugated design. You can install all of the brush seals and rubber seals you want, and its going to leak a lot of air in a cold wind. Their design also means that when rolled down, they have a gap at the top, between the roll and the header. As the door rolls up, the gap gets smaller.

HERE is my thread on the issues and cure I had for my sheet type roll up door.

Charles

 

[Daedalus]

Great info, thank you Charles. I like how you methodically tried different things and measured the results via light leakage on each try.

I'm pretty sure I do want a roll up door and can't think of any better options for a 14x12 opening. Right now there are 2 barn doors a previous owner installed, and they don't seal worth a darn either. The hinges are sagging and I need to use a prybar to open/close them each time. I need something with an automatic opener so I can start using the garage to park daily drivers in. I would like to mitigate dust entry into the garage, but weather/insulation is not a concern as this is a mild climate, and the garage is uninsulated steel anyway.

 

[glider]

Janus doors are sold at Menards under the name Ideal.

 

[MN4x4]

OK, I'll show my ignorance. Couldn't you use a jack-shaft operator like the LiftMaster 3800 or whatever the model is now? No need to take down the bracket or anything and all the normal features would be available?

 

[AndyL]

Yes and no, typically you have a drive side And wind side to a barrel - but not always... Problem with sheet doors is they often use a 1¼" shaft not a 1" due to the weight being carried. Some of the true sheet doors - yeah its possible but not recommended - typically openers for sheet doors are a bit stronger - as these rolling doors are notoriously poorly balanced.

Zap makes an awesome DC motor for these... http://www.acd-usa.com - now be forwarned - these operators are awesome, but like the i-drive you've gotta read the ******* manual and understand it. They work awesome - when you set the door and opener up correctly - when its half-passed - they act up and people say they're peices of sh*t.

 

[htchevyii]

When choosing doors for my recent shop build, I went with traditional overhead doors because of the opener situation. It seemed that although the roll up doors were much cheaper, the opener was so much more expensive that it wasn't worth it. I did put one roll up in the rear of the shop so that it won't be in the way of my lift.