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OIIIIIIIO

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Hi

I'm looking for attractive ideas for a roof...

I'd like to do a breeze way between my garage and a screen porch.

The breeze way will be kind of a arched pergola type structure if that makes sense.

The screen porch currently has the transluscent corrigated plastic...It works, and is functional...but I thinks it's ugly and doesn't fit the style of the house. I also don't want to go with asphalt shingles...I do have to enclose it as part of the building permit (the garage is bigger than what the village allows but if I attach it with an enclosed breezeway I can make it as big as I want).

So...I'm looking for suggestions...

Thank you!
Patrick
 
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OIIIIIIIO

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Here's the only picture I have available...kinda dated though...

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The screen porch is currently where the porch is pictured...

No picture of the garage...just have a foundation right now...

Plan to just screen the sides of the porch...will be 6' wide...18' long. 2 supports in the middle on each side with the same post and bracket as what you can see on the old porch...arched pergola shaped roof...can't seem to find a picture of what I have in mind...wait...found it...

http://homedesigndecorating.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/nostalgic-Victorian-pergola.jpeg

but with posts and brackets to match the old porch...
 
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OIIIIIIIO

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There have been some changes...off that east side there is now a scabby screen porch...also a 4 seasons room on that side of the house...I'll have to try and take some more pictures...

And thanks!
 

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Will the style of the garage match the house? Will the roofing material of the garage match the house? I suggest that both the style and material of the roof structure of the garage should match the house since they will be attached to each other. Then you have 2 choices. Either match the material and design of the breezeway and it's roof and roofing material to the garage and house, or go with a completely different material and different but appropriate roofing style for the breezeway. In that case the breezeway roof could be for instance a copper barrel vault or it could be a flat roof with a glue down membrane roof. Using the same vocabulary in all three parts will provide continuity. Using a different roof structure and material, but similar architectural design for the columns and trim will give it more interest and separate the garage from the house visually. The more the garage differs from the house, the more I would separate it from the house with a difference in the breezeway. But there still needs to be themes that connect all three in terms of structure, style, details, colors, finishes etc.

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garage will match the house...similar window pediments, similar eaves brackets, same siding, both house and garage will have asphalt shingles...

I'd like the breezeway to match the screen porch but be style appropriate to the house and garage...I plan to redo the screen porch as the screen is falling apart, I don't care for the roof, and it needs a few styling cues...I think I've got most of the styling cues figured out in my head...just need some ideas/options for a roof, which again...I don't want to go with asphalt...I want the breezeway to feel as open as possible, even though it needs to be enclosed according to the building permit...
 

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Here's the only picture I have available...kinda dated though...

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The screen porch is currently where the porch is pictured...

No picture of the garage...just have a foundation right now...

Plan to just screen the sides of the porch...will be 6' wide...18' long. 2 supports in the middle on each side with the same post and bracket as what you can see on the old porch...arched pergola shaped roof...can't seem to find a picture of what I have in mind...wait...found it...

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but with posts and brackets to match the old porch...

I'd roof it to match the house...

BTW, that is one great looking house! Wish it were mine... :drool:
 
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garage will match the house...similar window pediments, similar eaves brackets, same siding, both house and garage will have asphalt shingles...

I'd like the breezeway to match the screen porch but be style appropriate to the house and garage...I plan to redo the screen porch as the screen is falling apart, I don't care for the roof, and it needs a few styling cues...I think I've got most of the styling cues figured out in my head...just need some ideas/options for a roof, which again...I don't want to go with asphalt...I want the breezeway to feel as open as possible, even though it needs to be enclosed according to the building permit...

To really figure it out, we need to see what the porch and proposed garage look like. From what you are telling me, I would make the breezeway a flat roof to minimize it's impact. I would use the same column and trim details as the porch including those diagonal brackets. If screening would qualify as enclosed, I would install ceiling to floor, column to column, screened panels inside of the trim, that could be removed. That way I could open up the breezeway later. I would hide the downspouts for the flat roof in the columns or at the ends of the breezeway. A flat roof will require snow removal, but I'd pay that price to keep from getting a top heavy roof on it, or getting a heavy feeling breezeway by really enclosing it. Make the breezeway wide enough that rain doesn't fall on someone walking under it, but keep it feeling open. Floor should be bare concrete like an outside walk or paved in flagstones or slate like an outdoor walkway. Keep it feeling like just a covered outdoor space, not another long enclosed indoor room. Do you understand?


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OIIIIIIIO

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Picture time...comments/narration coming after dinner...

Looking to the SW
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Looking to the NE
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Looking from the SE to the NW
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Little closer to the screen porch
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Floor plan...though the toilet and sink will be on the south wall
GarageFloorPlan.jpg


Elevations...we are changing the dog house dormers to eyebrow dormers and adding a window in the bathroom...also not very detailed as far as window pediments and little other extras...
GarageNSElevations.jpg


GarageEWElevations.jpg


Breezeway option #1...just screen top to bottom...brackets more ornate than drawn
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Breezeway option #2...still screen behind the 1bys...but the middle section can get pushed back a couple inches and then slide down to the garage...kinda like a sliding barn door...but I couldn't find any sliding barn door hardware that first pushed back a couple inches...again, brackets more ornate than drawn
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I say anything approaching the look of a cedar shake shingle is appropriate for that house. Nice place, nice shop layout. Good luck with the project!
 
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I say anything approaching the look of a cedar shake shingle is appropriate for that house. Nice place, nice shop layout. Good luck with the project!

Cedar shake over the breezeway with the pergola type idea posted before...or cedar shake on the garage?
 
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OIIIIIIIO

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somehow my wife got this idea instead of screen...

http://www.coblemetalworks.com/Imag.../forged_wrought_iron_interior_doors_gates.jpg

Would be similar in style to the wrought iron fence we have going up in front of the garden that's pictured above...though I would need to check with the building inspector to see if that would qualify as enclosed..

I also think it might be one of those things where if you have to ask how much its costs then it's probably too much...
 
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To really figure it out, we need to see what the porch and proposed garage look like. From what you are telling me, I would make the breezeway a flat roof to minimize it's impact. I would use the same column and trim details as the porch including those diagonal brackets. If screening would qualify as enclosed, I would install ceiling to floor, column to column, screened panels inside of the trim, that could be removed. That way I could open up the breezeway later. I would hide the downspouts for the flat roof in the columns or at the ends of the breezeway. A flat roof will require snow removal, but I'd pay that price to keep from getting a top heavy roof on it, or getting a heavy feeling breezeway by really enclosing it. Make the breezeway wide enough that rain doesn't fall on someone walking under it, but keep it feeling open. Floor should be bare concrete like an outside walk or paved in flagstones or slate like an outdoor walkway. Keep it feeling like just a covered outdoor space, not another long enclosed indoor room. Do you understand? Bill

Makes perfect sense...what to use for the roof though? just a rubber roof? Flat flat roof, or the slight arch like in the way above picture okay?

Breezeway is 6' wide...

We were toying with the idea of some kind of stamped concrete pattern for the walkway...
 
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Makes perfect sense...what to use for the roof though? just a rubber roof? Flat flat roof, or the slight arch like in the way above picture okay?

Breezeway is 6' wide...

We were toying with the idea of some kind of stamped concrete pattern for the walkway...

Either flat flat or slightly arched is OK. Rubber or metal of any kind. If arched, keep it low to minimize impact. Dark or black rubber . Dark anodized alum. or copper. I like the stamped conc. Maybe edge with brick? The column detail and trim detail gives you the match to the traditional architecture.
 
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