RoundUp Substitute

[mreisner]

Glyphosate is not restricted use, so I wonder if it maybe had pursuit in it?

 

[jeffp1979]

Glufosinate is becoming very popular in the ag community around here, put a little dawn dish soap with any of it and it will normally knock a couple of days off of the kill time.

 

[mreisner]

I use Dawn in every load I spray.Helps cut through waxy surfaces on plants and help dry powders dissolve better in hard water.

 

[mreisner]

A lot of Liberty being used here the last couple years. I grow non g.m.o. beans so I have never used it. Seems to work well for the guys who do use it.

 

[JRC3]

I use Dawn in every load I spray.Helps cut through waxy surfaces on plants and help dry powders dissolve better in hard water.

You just made me realize that I never thought about using softened water or even RO for my spraying. Duh.

 

[mreisner]

Every batch I spray I use a water conditioner. Usually 51 pounds of ammonium sulphate per 300 gallons of water. Glyphosate and most other chemicals are a weak acid, the dissolved calcium and iron in water can bond with them and greatly reduce effectiveness. Softer water can allow reduced active ingredient use by 30 percent or more.

 

[Bondo]

Anyone found a suitable (that works) substitute for RoundUp?

Ayuh,...... Clorox Bleach,.....

 

[DC73]

The 2 it contains are worse in my book. Diquat is nasty stuff, same family as Paraquat.

. . . both work fast and are very, very corrosive. They basically blow the plant cell walls apart, but do not move systemically in the plant so things like grass etc. Do grow back from the root mass.

What do you mean by corrosive? Corrosive to metal it might touch?

I've not noticed any issue with any plant growing back from the roots but the weeds do start dying the same day as you said.

One of the issues I had with RoundUp was in trying to control spurge. It took the RoundUp so long to work that the spurge would apparently drop seeds which would later germinate. I always had spurge coming up in the exact same spots. So, I switched to RoundUp's extended control product which was better on the spurge but it never worked as well as the Spectracide I'm using now.

Would love to find a safe alternative that works. I hate spraying chemicals but have yet to find a good substitute.

DC

 

[ransil]

Im not impressed with RU sprsy it on my driveway every year , grass grows back every year and us thicker than my lawn in some places. I gott see what my neighbor uses on his fence line, **** is always dead.

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[JRC3]

Softer water can allow reduced active ingredient use by 30 percent or more.

Now that is sort of an alternative, at least by 30%, for anyone seeking an alternative for environmental reasons.

Would using soft water apply for spraying something like Tenacity? Like if you didn't get any naturally soft rainwater within the 10 days of application, would watering with softened water instead of hard well water make it absorb into the soil better? Seems like it would.

And I doubt that single 1/4" application of softened water is gonna leave enough sodium to hurt anything.

 

[mreisner]

What do you mean by corrosive? Corrosive to metal it might touch?

I've not noticed any issue with any plant growing back from the roots but the weeds do start dying the same day as you said.

One of the issues I had with RoundUp was in trying to control spurge. It took the RoundUp so long to work that the spurge would apparently drop seeds which would later germinate. I always had spurge coming up in the exact same spots. So, I switched to RoundUp's extended control product which was better on the spurge but it never worked as well as the Spectracide I'm using now.

Would love to find a safe alternative that works. I hate spraying chemicals but have yet to find a good substitute.

DC

Corrosive to certain metals, and extremly corrosive to skin and especially lung tissue if the mist is breathed.
Leafy spurge is resistant to gly. , also since it is not a true grass it was always tough to control. 2,4d or dicamba should get it. Trimec is a good one.

 

[DC73]

Trimec is a good one.

Thanks. I've used Trimec before with good results. Can't remember why I got away from it.

DC

 

[rlitman]

Im not impressed with RU sprsy it on my driveway every year , grass grows back every year and us thicker than my lawn in some places. I gott see what my neighbor uses on his fence line, **** is always dead.

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Roundup has no residual action. You can spray it on the ground and toss down seeds which will the sprout.

 

[Farmall450]

I use Dawn in every load I spray.Helps cut through waxy surfaces on plants and help dry powders dissolve better in hard water.

Yes, it's the best cheap surfactant out there.

 

[Farmall450]

Roundup has no residual action. You can spray it on the ground and toss down seeds which will the sprout.

Yes. RU 365 or better yet PBI Gordan's Barrier would be the move here.

 

[FrancisJ]

Folks --- Glyphosate is across the food chain, in ALL humans today......Round-Up is just one of hundreds of sources contributing..........

 

[greenskeeper]

Castrating all trial lawyers is a good second step.

 

[LifeLongWNYer]

I don't intend to tick anyone off, but I spent 13 months in Vietnam, with weekly, or, at the least, monthly flyovers with Agents Orange and Blue sprayed on me, and 60+ years later I am as healthy as I was then, so I think CAREFUL spraying of glyphosate on the hedge rows surrounding my property won't be a big deal.

I DO mix it per the instructions, ( I don't "overdose" my weeds ), I spray with a low pressure sprayer, on windless days, and I apply only ro dampen the weeds, NOT until the chemical runs off the leaves. If it takes a week for the weeds to die, so be it, as long as they do die.

It is just a yard, not a PGA course.



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