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Danglerb

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Window weather strip on my car is a real pain to install into the channel, like more than an hour per door and the rubber seal way too expensive to mess up.

One of the guys suggested P-80 rubber assembly lubricant, anybody use it or have serious suggestions?

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For rubber parts that need to move (like disc brake pin seals), I use a pure silicone grease (also for o-rings, where such a grease is appropriate).

For rubber parts that need to not move after assembly (like bicycle handlebar grips), I use a water based hairspray in a pump container (NOT aerosol, because the aerosol solvent may not be rubber compatible).
 

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I use silicone spray for rubber to whatever else connections (Boots, o-rings, etc.) or to stop a rubber squeak. For things that will move against one another whether its rubber or metal, i use a grease. I would spray the **** out of the stripping with spray silicone and try to install it.
 

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Syl-Glide from NAPA has always worked well for me, or regular plain silicone grease. Silicone spray if it's something that just needs to fit somewhere and then not move again.
 

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Another silicon spray user here. I like it best because the residual goes away quickly.
 

MrGiggles

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Hard to beat the convenience and ease of use that silicone spray offers.

You could also swing by a local tire shop and steal a dollop of tire lube....
 

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I've used P-80 installing coolant hoses and rubber suspension parts. On a rear sway bar link, I used P-80 on one side, KY on the other, the P-80 was definitely easier to assemble.

Downside is, it's hard to get in small quantities. I got mine by ordering samples on the internet. Last time I checked, you had to buy it in either quarts or gallons, or a box of something like 40 small tubes. When I spoke to them, it wasn't available at any retail location.
 
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The glass shop that installed the windshield in my old truck used soapy water in a spray bottle, and a LOT of it. Made a mess but cleaned up easily.
 

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Dish soap. They use that pink liquid hand soap at the factory for putting hoses on so that works too!
 
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Looks like a wide range of may work, works most of the time, and works best.

Soap is a wetting agent, maybe glycerin, maybe some type of detergent (Dawn). Varies a lot from brand to brand. Pro its cheap and most already have some, cleans up easy, doesn't do anything bad. Can its the bottom of the performance range.

Glycerin mostly with some water, its like soap or more slippery, may leave some residue. Lots of slippery stuff will actually be glycerin.

Silicon grease, skip right to the high end Krytox or Dow 111. High pressure, low pressure, last a long time, food and med air safe, perfect for sealing orings, not so sure on assembly of other parts like trim since it stays slippery.

Silicon spray, very slippery, O2 sensors don't like it at all, works for most hoses etc. WD40 is similar, but seems to me it glues the hose to the fitting when it dries.

Petroleum jelly, medium temperature range, cheap version of silicon grease, not the most slippery, but everybody has some around.

KY jelly, Methyl cellulose is the main ingredient in K-Y Jelly, very slippery, not the most, but its safe for most people parts, not good at higher temps (turns solid).

P-80 maybe others similar, looks like I need to try some, maybe its really the best stuff specifically for installing items like trim.
 

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Only downside to using silicone spray or grease is that the silicone residue is hard to remove and may cause fisheyes if you are painting nearby later. Many body shops prohibit the use of silicone spray anywhere on premises.

Other than that caveat it works great. So does soapy water.
 

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Ayuh,.... A trick I learned years ago from Don S over at iboats is that for installin' rubber parts on boats, ya can't beat Quicksilver Power Tune,...

It's sorta like sea-foam spray, only different,....
Though it's not the intended use of the stuff, when installin' bellows lock rings, or rubber pressed in rubber motor mounts,...
Ya spray the rubber, 'n push,....
Within 20/ 45 seconds, it flashes off, 'n the rubber ain't goin' Nowhere,....
It don't leave residual **** like silicone,....

I've never used it as intended on outboards, but I keep a couple cans handy for replacin' rubber parts in all sorts of equipment,....
 

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Isopropyl alcohol from Walmart. It goes away quickly so use a lot and work fast.

Best part is it evaporates completely over time so the rubber part stays in place.
 

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Isopropyl alcohol from Walmart. It goes away quickly so use a lot and work fast.

Best part is it evaporates completely over time so the rubber part stays in place.

Rubbing alcohol, which is what is typically on the shelf has glycerin in it and leaves it as a residue. Disinfectant alcohol usually doesn't have any.

What you could be seeing the effect of is just the glycerin.
 

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Rubbing alcohol, which is what is typically on the shelf has glycerin in it and leaves it as a residue. Disinfectant alcohol usually doesn't have any...

Only the green stuff has glycerin. I've never seen it as an ingredient in the clear rubbing alcohol.

...Silicon grease, skip right to the high end Krytox or Dow 111. High pressure, low pressure, last a long time, food and med air safe, perfect for sealing orings, not so sure on assembly of other parts like trim since it stays slippery.

Silicon spray, very slippery, O2 sensors don't like it at all, works for most hoses etc. WD40 is similar, but seems to me it glues the hose to the fitting when it dries.

Petroleum jelly, medium temperature range, cheap version of silicon grease, not the most slippery, but everybody has some around...

There's a HUGE difference between Krytox and silicone grease. Dow 111 is just a silicone grease (and if you want a superior silicone grease, check out Dow High Vacuum Grease, not 111). But all of these are o-ring/rubber safe.

Silicone spray, WD40 and petroleum jelly all contain petroleum distillates, which can break down some rubbers. Be careful what you use these on.
 

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Silicone spray, WD40 and petroleum jelly all contain petroleum distillates, which can break down some rubbers. Be careful what you use these on.

That was my first thought too, along with rubbing alcohol.

I like 3M silicone grease. It's honest-to-goodness silicone oil based which it why it is expensive. It's also pretty thick. Sil-Glyde is a nice product but it is propylene glycol oil based grease -- cheaper, still pretty friendly with plastic and rubbers.
 
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Now I am going to end up buying some KY, the cashier is going to look at me and I'll be embarrassed and say its for my car, the look will get weirder. Ebay, yeah, that's the ticket.
 

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Cat has a rubber lube that works well. No idea what it is made of but it is a light green color. After it dries a bit it gets a bit tacky. I do know form first hand experience that it will make a concrete floor slicker than snot.
 

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I have this Japanese grease that Acura sells for NSX convertibles. The company that makes it is ShinItsu. The grease is white odorless and doesn't stain.
 
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I emailed p-80 and they sent me a thumb sized tube of 4 different types. So far too cold to try it on the car, maybe in a month or so.

Grease is a non starter, this is for assembly, then it needs to stay put, not fall apart.
 
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