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Wamsutta

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I found the hose, but I did not pay $93.12 for it. I got it at California Industrial Rubber Supply. I paid $62.82 on 11/10/14.
The product number on the receipt is 316500801 and that's for a Thermoid Valuflex 3/4'' x 50' black rubber hose. The thing is a tank. This the be-all end-all of garden hoses. You won't find a better built hose on the planet.

Here is an Amazon link for the picture, but I did not buy it there.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DIM0VH4/?tag=atomicindus08-20
 
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Anyone else use the flexzilla ones? I was at TSC earlier and saw some... they seemed nice, and ive been very pleased with their air lines.

I've got the craftsman one that everyone's recommending, and a nice 100ft too. I coil them both up inside a large trashcan, i wonder if the flexzilla is easier to store.
 

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I like Flexogen hoses with lifetime warranty. I think they are still made in USA. Mine are actually Do It Best hoses that I believe are made by Flexogen. I bet Do It Best will be in business longer than Sears for the warranty.
 

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So SK, I've got to ask, is that a home brew snow making machine in your profile picture? What are you using the snow for?


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Won't the rubber start to crack over time, especially if it's left out in the sun?
There is nothing more destructive to a hose than the hot, intense AZ sun. We use only Goodyear rubber hoses (now called Continental). We have several that lay in the sun year round, and they do get somewhat grungy looking after 5 years or so, but that's just surface appearance. The hoses last 15 years or more outside.
 

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I have several Goodyear garden hoses. Most have held up. One failed internally, and started to look like a snake that ate a dozen eggs. The warranty on Goodyear garden hoses ***** FYI.
 

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I found Stanley Fat Max hybrid garden hose a few years ago at TSC. The two 50' I have are holding up well, and super flexible.
 

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I found Stanley Fat Max hybrid garden hose a few years ago at TSC. The two 50' I have are holding up well, and super flexible.
I got one of these on clearance at menards... First "hybrid" type hose I've tried.. You have to actively prevent kinking, even pressurized. You will get intermittent spraying if you walk around while spraying from momentary kinking.. At times the hose will kink, then build pressure inside, unkink itself, and repeat.

Its nice and light, easy to flip around over obstacles, easy to store. But not fun to use. IMO of course.

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Flexzilla hoses are great. Both water and air. The water hoses are very expensive compared to traditional hoses, unlike the air lines.

Are craftsman hoses still full lifetime satisfaction guaranteed? They were a killer deal when they were. The heavy black "pro grade", premium, contractor or whatever they called them were really nice high quality hoses. Warranty sealed the deal, awesome value.

Got a couple heavy duty yellow Gilmour hoses from Wal-Mart for the new place, 50fters for $12 bucks at the end if the season. They are decent hoses, for $12 bucks tho... Great beaters.

Flexzilla for top notch hoses. Heavy Though.





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Also, according to the article, buying two 50 feet hoses and connecting is supposedly better than one long 100 foot hose.

I call BS on that; you're just adding an unnecessary restriction in a long hose. As others have said going to 3/4" on a 100ft hose is a good idea; you'll be surprised at the difference it makes.
 

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I've had a Gilmour 100' super duty outside for the last 4 years. It's been hooked up basically the whole time, and never been inside. Has frozen plenty of times, on and off the spool, no issues. Still looks basically new, and wont kink.

Easily the best quality hose I've owned.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00002N8K3/?tag=atomicindus08-20

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Apparently they must have changed something, because all the current reviews are saying the newer ones are terrible. Sad.
 

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Apparently the same with the black rubber craftsman ones. I have a couple of them, the hex shaped ones, and they are really great hoses. Went to order a couple more few days ago and all the recent reviews say they've changed and the new ones are junk.
 

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Eley are great, only problem is that they only make 5/8 hoses, no 3/4. But their 5/8 are supposed to flow as much as a typical 3/4 hose because the hose ends they use are less restrictive than a typical design.
 

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Back in about 1975 I bought a green rubber 100’ hose from Sears, not sure if it was Chraftsman or just a Sears brand. I still use it and it has held up extremely well but I never leave it outside or allow it to freeze, most of the time it is rolled up on a hose real cart. I also have a couple of black rubber 25’ hoses that might be craftsman, they are far better than any vynil hose I have owned. Has anyone tried the “collapsible” noses that are in the market? I would not want it for use around the hose but something like that would be nice for traveling so I could wash the car whenever there was water available. (Or I could continue to use a “quicky blitz” coin wash while traveling)
 

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I call BS on that; you're just adding an unnecessary restriction in a long hose. As others have said going to 3/4" on a 100ft hose is a good idea; you'll be surprised at the difference it makes.
Absolutely correct. Adding a constriction at the half way point is the worst thing you could do with water or air hoses(less so).

It creates a drop in flow and pressure after the constriction opens back into full diameter hose, the column of water is unable to flow at full velocity to your nozzle of choice. Just this summer when first moving to my current place, I planted grass in a few spots, running two and even three 50fters, and my sprinkler would lose probably nearly 10 feet from its coverage diameter per hose I added. A single 100fter left it nearly full coverage, a lot more than two 50fters.

That final nozzle should he your only constriction point if possible. You can't get away from the constriction at the bib or spigot, but adding any more hurts performance a ton. If you ever by chance able to use a hose that does not have a bib between the supply and nozzle, you will see how much water can actually come out of a hose, its staggering... especially if the supply is 3/4" and not 1/2" like most residential supply.

Two 50fters is much easier to handle, especially if you rarely need more than 50ft. That's for sure. 100ft hoses, especially heavy duty or contractor grade hoses are heavy as hell, and unwieldy.

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I call BS on that; you're just adding an unnecessary restriction in a long hose. As others have said going to 3/4" on a 100ft hose is a good idea; you'll be surprised at the difference it makes.
Also, it seems that about 100ft of good 5/8" hose is about as far as you'd wanna go before jumping to 3/4"

Somewhere just around there is when you'll notice a drop in performance with average decent quality fittings. Really junk hoses probably fall short before that obviously.

I wonder how different diameters of +100ft hoses run on 1/2" supply lines..

I know you get a rebound effect from the hose stretching in diameter a tiny amount over a long length, which gives you that harsh blast when you first open a nozzle. But I imagine you may lose some performance with a large diameter hose with a very small residential supply with a bib. Maybe not if its acting more like a reservoir than a line. Hmm...

To the other poster, the "snake that swallowed eggs" look usually comes from hose getting run over by a vehicle in my experience.



Has anyone tried the “collapsible” noses that are in the market? I would not want it for use around the hose but something like that would be nice for traveling so I could wash the car whenever there was water available. (Or I could continue to use a “quicky blitz” coin wash while traveling)

I have only tried the Stanley fat max branded collapsible hose. I was less than impressed. Pretty constrictive, and kinks under pressure. But with care in use, it works fine as a 25ft or so standalone hose or a quick extension at the end.

Would be perfect for travel tho. Pack up much tighter than ordinary hoses. And do still work


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I have had the goodyear black rubber ones sold at HD for about a decade of abuse. Still good as new left out all year round..frozen solid....baked in sun..run over and so on.

Same here. I have had one of these hoses forever it seems. One of the best hoses around imho. Now if only I could find a good spray nozzle...……..
 
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I had one of the Goodyear black rubber hoses - great, tough hose. My only complaint, and the reason I gave it away, was that it always came off black on my hands (and anything else). Have no idea why - it's not like it was exposed to chemicals or excess friction...
 
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