Running satellite (Directv) to shop

[914wilhelm]

Have Directv coming into house. Have a 170' long, 2" diameter conduit from house to shop. Where satellite dish comes into home there is a splitter to feed 3 boxes. Can I just replace the 3 way splitter with a 4 way and run rg6 to a shop receiver? Will I need a signal amplifier? Are there other things I need to do?

 

[Git]

I would think it would be easier to just get them to put up a new satellite dish out at your shop?

When we had DTV at one point we had two dishes side by side on the house.

 

[aandpdan]

170' is going to kill the signal levels. Get another dish.

 

[posyandu]

I would think it would be easier to just get them to put up a new satellite dish out at your shop?

When we had DTV at one point we had two dishes side by side on the house.

can you show me pics it? I'm not understand

 

[wyliesdiesels]

Have Directv coming into house. Have a 170' long, 2" diameter conduit from house to shop. Where satellite dish comes into home there is a splitter to feed 3 boxes. Can I just replace the 3 way splitter with a 4 way and run rg6 to a shop receiver? Will I need a signal amplifier? Are there other things I need to do?

Never use a coax splitter for satelite service. A splitter on satelite service causes a dead short.

U need a multi switch or swm splitter for satelite use.

And yeah 170' is pretty long. Eqsier to throw up another dish on the shop than messing with amplifiers...

 

[CNGsaves]

Instead . . . . assuming you have high-speed internet at shop . . .
. . . . put a SlingBox on your DirectTV receiver and you can watch TV ANYWhere in world you have internet connection !!

Only drawback is people in house must watch same stuff you choose on that main TV - - - - thus it does not add another unique receiver that can watch any channel any time. You are taking over control of that main TV while over the internet.

 

[ard]

I assume there is nothing else in that 2" conduit...like power, correct?

 

[OccupantRJ]

I added a second dish on the shop to run the shop receiver. Easier than digging for my situation.

 

[914wilhelm]

The 2" conduit is empty and is reserved for low voltage stuff like Internet, intercoms, video cams, and Directv. Have a separate power line, gas line, waterline, sewer line, and, oh yeah, a reserve 2" conduit, just in case!

Question: If I have a dish on the shop, is DTV gonna charge me a second complete service or will they charge me for a 4th receiver?

 

[kingchevy]

I have Directv and I'm going about 100' from my house media center to shop tv. I was going to get another receiver out there but I read on here somewhere about someone setting up the shop tv as a "slave" to the main house tv. I have the RG6U run already and I'm assuming that I can have the house tv connected by HDMI on the dvr and the shop tv connected by the RG6. I will never use both TV's at the same time anyway and I'll save the monthly fee. There is a really good remote control app that works through wifi that I can control it with. Is this a bad idea?

 

[NC4AB]

I just finished my shop and have a similar setup and installed a HDMI extender with IR remote control capability between the TV / Directv receiver in the house and the new TV in the shop (total cable length on my setup is 160 feet).

The TV in the house is old and I feed it with the line out signals from the Directv receiver while the new TV in the shop is HDMI so I did not have to install an HDMI splitter. If both TVs are HDMI you will need a HDMI splitter at the receiver.

The HDMI extender was not cheap (~200.00) plus it required a dedicated Cat 6 cable between the two TV's but so far it has worked great. You can get the extenders with different ratings, the one I got was rated at 50 meters (164 feet) and at 1080p resolution you can just barely see some pixelation that you don't see at 1080i resolution or below. For your distance they make one good to 100 meters (328 feet) but most of them I looked at required 2 runs of cable.

Google "HDMI Extender with IR" and you will see what is available. You will also need a second Directv remote but they are pretty cheap.

Andy

 

[914wilhelm]

So something like this? https://www.jtechdigital.com/video-...th-rs232-port-support-4kx2k-up-to-328-ft.html
Cool, did not know these existed.

 

[aandpdan]

Question: If I have a dish on the shop, is DTV gonna charge me a second complete service or will they charge me for a 4th receiver?

You'll have to pay for the receiver.

Your option is, as others said, to use the HDMI or line out jacks on your receiver and a remote control extender.

 

[wyliesdiesels]

So something like this? https://www.jtechdigital.com/video-...th-rs232-port-support-4kx2k-up-to-328-ft.html
Cool, did not know these existed.

Yup.

Those will work.

Though u will need CAT6 NOT CAT5e.

I just bought a different model HDMI extender from J-Tech for a client but havent installed them yet. Seems like a good design...

If u dont need the ethernet extension and 4K capability, then u could go with the one i bought which is half the cost:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003...i+extender&dpPl=1&dpID=41nn+rNFvKL&ref=plSrch

There is an even cheaper model that only goes 200' for $70:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01D...i+extender&dpPl=1&dpID=41M8kbzjkZL&ref=plSrch

 

[NC4AB]

So something like this? https://www.jtechdigital.com/video-...th-rs232-port-support-4kx2k-up-to-328-ft.html
Cool, did not know these existed.

That looks very similar to the "Vantech" EVEX2006 that I installed. Probably all of them are made in the same plant in China. Go with the Cat 6 cable and the one rated for 100 meters and you should be good to go.

Andy

 

[weadjust]

Question: If I have a dish on the shop, is DTV gonna charge me a second complete service or will they charge me for a 4th receiver?

Cost $7.00 a month to add a receiver. I installed a dish I bought on ebay and kept Directv out of the loop. I told them to send me a receiver to self install in a bedroom. I forgot to tell them that bedroom was 120 miles away from my service address at my lake house

 

[914wilhelm]

Cost $7.00 a month to add a receiver. I installed a dish I bought on ebay and kept Directv out of the loop. I told them to send me a receiver to self install in a bedroom. I forgot to tell them that bedroom was 120 miles away from my service address at my lake house

So is there an easy way to align the dish to the satellite?

 

[akalian]

So is there an easy way to align the dish to the satellite?

You will need two things to get it done. One is a Satellite Alignment Compass like this one to get the general position of where the satellite is. I'm not sure this one will work for Direct TV but the one I have looks something similar to this, so YMMV.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002F67MI/?tag=atomicindus08-20

The other thing you will need once you get the dish pointed in the general direction is a Signal Strength Meter. Move the dish from side to side, and watch the meter. At the peak side to side signal, then move the dish up and down to the peak signal, and you should get a picture.

Signal meter:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01H5FHM0I/?tag=atomicindus08-20

cheaper one:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000G2EMM4/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Check out an RV supply place near you, and ask the guys there. It's something RV'ers have to do all the time to watch TV. Many of the newer RV's are auto, but mine wasn't so I had to do it manually. Got pretty good at it too.

 

[weadjust]

Aiming the dish is fairly easy but frustrating the first time. The mounting pole has to be exactly plumb and level. If the mounting pole is not spot on plumb and level the elevation will be off. Set the elevation for your zip code on the dish. Using compass find the azimuth for the dish and find the 101 satellite using the strength meter. Once you're getting any signal on the 101 press with your thumb slightly on the dish up, down, left, and right and see which way you need to adjust the dish to strengthen the signal. Fine tune to get highest signal possible on the 101. I usually find if you can get the 101 satellite signal strength in the 90% + the other satellites will usually fall into place. You can fine tune from there using the knobs on the dish. A google search on aiming a Directv dish will give some more detailed instructions.

All I use is the compass on my phone. Find the 101 and it's downhill from there.

 

[Git]

A lot of things are going to depend on where you stand with your DTV contract

Are you still under contract? If not - you could probably just call them up and ask them to install another dish and receiver in your shop for FREE - and you of course would have to pay an additional monthly fee for the receiver.

Start adding up the time and money that these other 'methods' are going to cost you - buying your own dish, installing it, running a new RG6 line to slave off your receiver in your house, etc etc

Another option if your out of your contract is to just call Dish and talk about a new install where your shop would have a 2nd satellite dish mounted. I was a DTV for over 10 years and I finally got tired of them screwing me every year and I switched to Dish and couldn't be happier. If you have a computer in your shop - you don't even need a receiver out there. Dish has their "Dish Anywhere" where you can watch it on your computer, phone or tablet FOR FREE

Look into Dish Anywhere
http://www.dish.com/dish-anywhere/

 

[Jason280]

170' is going to kill the signal levels. Get another dish.

Not necessarily.

I have DirecTV run to both my house and shop, and use one dish. The dish itself is actually closer to the shop, with close to 150-200' of cable run from the splitter box at the shop to the living room in my house. I've had it this way for well over 5 years, and have never had an issue. The only thing I have noticed is the channel guide cycles much faster in my shop than at the house, other than that there is no difference. .