Running water line - from well or from house?

[JamesW84]

I plan to add a water line to a frost-free hydrant near my proposed shop. Both runs would be about 200 feet, and my trenches will not be inspected.

My well would be easier to dig a trench from. I have another frost free hydrant installed behind the house, but that would involve digging around buried utilities - as would running from the house unless I ran the water line through the attic (how I will run the electrical. I'd rather not run it thru the attic because of potential freezing.

Can I just dig down to the pitless adapter and put a tee on there. Would I still have good pressure.

I really only need to wash my hands and run a pressure washer.

 

[driz]

You can’t run it off the house somewhere? Pressure should be the same more or less either way. 200’. I hope you have a backhoe. A slave or two would suffice in Florida but up north here 200’ might as well be 200 miles with a pick and shovel.
Whatever you do it’s nice and cheap to lay the line inside some 4” sewer pipe. Then if you ever have to pull it it’s easy. Plastic pipe is cheap.

 

[JamesW84]

I have a backhoe. The house is an earthberm, and all the utilites come into the utility room at in one area. Just trying to avoid digging around the electrical. To run it from the house, i'd have to probably run it either thru the attic 25 ft to the side of the house or 10 ft to the back of the house. I guess i could run it at an angle to avoid the electrical, but the well almost sounds easier

 

[doublearon98]

I have a backhoe. The house is an earthberm, and all the utilites come into the utility room at in one area. Just trying to avoid digging around the electrical. To run it from the house, i'd have to probably run it either thru the attic 25 ft to the side of the house or 10 ft to the back of the house. I guess i could run it at an angle to avoid the electrical, but the well almost sounds easier

I'd go from the well. I'd also add a shutoff so you can turn shop water off and still use the house

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[Rusty Bolt]

I'd go from the well. Easier to dig and it separates the house water from the supply - they can be turned off independently. It also means heavy water use in the house doesn't affect the hydrant much, and vice versa.

I'd also bury some tracer wire or detectable barrier tape with the line. In some areas, it's standard practice to separate the tracer wire from the pipe by a few inches to prevent a lightning strike from vaporizing the wire and cutting a long slot in the pipe.

In my area, the gas company sometimes tapes the tracer wire to plastic gas pipe.

 

[Boilerhouse]

I would say, if it is easier to do so, run it from the well, assuming you have a submersible pump in the well and no check valves between your proposed tee and the pressure tank.

 

[chargermann]

I recently had this same project a couple months ago. Chose to tee from the well supply to house. 3/4" galvanized pipe into a ball valve within a ground-level valve box adjacent to the well. Converted to 3/4" PEX and hand dug a trench 135' to the new mancave. I went with 20" depth, but probably wasn't necessary because of no frost issue within north central Florida. Used SharkBite fittings throughout.
Getting great pressure with a bathroom (and shower) and garage slop sink.

 

[86turbodsl]

Might consider a small surge tank at the garage if you do this, water hammer on 200' of moving water is probably not insignificant. I have a water line to the horse stable about 200' away and i close the spigot real slow to avoid hammer.

 

[larry_g]

Not knowing your layout would you be able to TEE into the line from the house to the well somewhere? At my place I have a few lines that run from a distribution box in the yard to the house, shop, barns, and the garden. It is also valved to be able to shut off any line and drain it, which I do in the winter for a couple of lines..

lg
no neat sig line

 

[sberry]

You can get black plastic in 300 ft rolls. You could run a small pressure washer on 3/4 at that distance but if you put in inch wont know you ain't next to the well.

 

[Fix Until Broke]

If you connect at the well, make sure you put a curb stop in so you can shut it off independent of the house or whatever else. Friend of mine has this situation but without the curb stop and it's a pain because anytime you do anything to the water system, everything gets shut off.

 

[JamesW84]

Not knowing your layout would you be able to TEE into the line from the house to the well somewhere? At my place I have a few lines that run from a distribution box in the yard to the house, shop, barns, and the garden. It is also valved to be able to shut off any line and drain it, which I do in the winter for a couple of lines..

lg
no neat sig line

The well is only like 50 ft from the house and TEEing off really wouldn't save much (and have to take down a wooden fence to boot).

I was just wondering if there was some reason I shouldn't go from the well directly. Sounds like it's a no-brainer now. Per Sberry, I'll probably go with 1 inch. 200 ft is only 70 bucks at Menards.

 

[Redwards329]

I just recently did mine. I went from well to shop and another from well to house and RV hook ups. All three runs have their own independent shut off valves. PVC is cheap and easy to lay in 20 ft sections with belled end. I ran all 1" and have good pressure at 125' feet from well house. I've got mine set at 40/60 split for pressure switch.

 

[sberry]

There are 2 grades of rolled. Potable is slightly more expensive, rated for drinking. In the 100 ft range the 3/4 is fine, over 200 feet inch is a lot better. Not sure what the well capacity is but it helps with pressure drop as volume goes up, running sprinkler or filling a tank etc.
Some places smaller is a little better, a little less likely to hammer with fast shut off,,, not so much a problem with modern low flow and it changes the water faster when used for drinking.
If you want some pressure, fire hose, flushing and have the water the inch is 2 x as good.
If you need to splice underground use 2 hose clamps at each connection, all stainless and tighten tight, let sit for couple hours, even over night then tighten again.

 

[ishiboo]

I'd go from the well. Easier to dig and it separates the house water from the supply - they can be turned off independently. It also means heavy water use in the house doesn't affect the hydrant much, and vice versa.

Maybe.. not around here.

Around here the pressure switch and tanks are in the houses. So if you shut off the house you would loose water, or the pump would run all the time.

 

[csp]

Around here the pressure switch and tanks are in the houses. So if you shut off the house you would loose water, or the pump would run all the time.

You don't have a shutoff downstream of the pressure tank and switch that you can close?

 

[driz]

You can get black plastic in 300 ft rolls. You could run a small pressure washer on 3/4 at that distance but if you put in inch wont know you ain't next to the well.

That’s the ticket. [emoji1362]Especially if you live in rock country. Cheap, easy to use and nothing is gonna cut it short of a hit from the backhoe


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