Russell Jennings Bits & Case
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sometoyotaguy
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Occasionally these do come up, but not very often. It's worth whatever you're willing to shell out. Somewhere in the $75-100 range I would guess. You might look on ebay.
Rileysan
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I come across brace bits all the time for a buck or less each. Although I'm not familiar with this manufacturer, I am still confident the value is in the box itself. Can you verify whether or not the bits match the manufacturer of the box? It wouldn't surprise me if there is a replacement (or two).
Brian
Brian
crguy
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Those are nice sets, but not rare. I've seen a number of brand new, never used, sets over the years.
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ekegelmann
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They match the set. Well kept. He also has a Bailey 8 plane hes selling. Isn't that the creme de creme of wood planes?
crguy
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Stanley #8s are just one of many different planes Stanley made. Nothing rare or special about them. Certainly not "the creme".
Roberts210
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Jennings pattern were the best auger bits made. They are far superior to any of the other old-time brands like Stanley, which used a single flute. Some of the bits in that box are Jennings pattern and some are not. The box is original to the Jennings pattern. I have the same set. You might ask if the threads are fine or coarse. Coarse threads will pull the bit into the wood a lot better than fine threads. Possibly these are fine threads and that accounts for why there is so little evidence of their being sharpened on the cutting edges.
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ekegelmann
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Well for $15 dollars he is selling the auger box with bits and the bailey 8.. along with a long yankee driver and another plane. CANT PASS THIS UP!
My Old Tools
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Tons on eBay. They came is two flavors, coarse lead screw for green and soft woods, fine lead screw for hard woods. Slightly different part # 100 and 101 or something like that. I have several sets. They work very well.
My Old Tools
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That is theft. #8 is $75 in good condition. As with everything, condition is everything. Correct blade and lever cap, clean unchipped unbroken handle. No extra holes drilled in the body (some people apparently liked to hang them on nails). Stanley #8 is the least likely plane to be used today as it was replaced by the jointer. I love them. Good set of Jennings in a good box is $125 or so.
hsvtoolfool
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We need photos of the plane to get any idea on value. Condition is
everything when it comes to price, and it gets confusing since you
described it as a Bailey plane rather than as a Stanley.
Leonard Bailey perfected the modern metal plane and sold many under
his own name until Stanley purchased his patents in the late 1800s.
Stanley then used the Bailey name on their planes for several decades.
So there are Bailey and Stanley+Bailey planes.
https://virginiatoolworks.com/2012/04/23/stanley-vs-bailey-a-short-history/
If he's selling a rare non-Stanley Bailey No. 8 plane, then it's likely worth
some serious money. If it's a Stanley plane with the name Bailey on it, then
it's likely a relatively common No. 8 jointer plane and worth $50 to $200
depending on condition. The true "creme de la creme" of jointer planes is
a Stanley "Bedrock" No. 608 in perfect condition dating from the 1920s
or 1930s. Lie Nelson Toolworks make an improved copy of this plane for
a mere $475...
https://www.lie-nielsen.com/product/standard-bench-planes/no.-8-jointer-plane?node=4171
Geeky collector issues aside, if his No. 8 has original rosewood handles
and is in good working condition, then it will make a nice "user" plane.
Old Stanley planes made in America before 1950 always work better
than new planes made in Asia sold at hardware stores nowadays.
As for the Russell Jennings bits, they're common and you can still find NOS
sets from tool dealers. To give you some idea on pricing for like-new set,
this fellow is usually a bit higher than typical market price...
http://www.jimbodetools.com/Complet...Bits-in-its-Original-3-Tiered-Box-p48160.html
I think I paid about $125 for a similar NOS box set a couple years ago.
Most of my bits were still wrapped in the original paper.
Your guy is selling a "user quality" set, so I'd pass if bits are missing, the
cutting spurs have no remaining life, or if it's a mixed set of brands (Russell
Jennings, Stanley, Irwins, GreenLee). On the other hand, at the right price
(around $30), this is a good first set you can use to practice sharpening...
http://www.fine-tools.com/G-augerbitfile.html
Russell Jennings, Stanley / Russell Jennings, Irwin, GreenLee, etc. all work
about the same if they're sharp. Old vs. new work the same, so long as they
fit your brace and are sharp.
Trivia: The common Russell Jennings No. 100 bits had a double-thread on
the lead screw which looks fine but is actually coarse in use. The more rare
No. 101 bits had a single-thread lead screw like Irwin, etc. which looks more
coarse. Either type works fine.
everything when it comes to price, and it gets confusing since you
described it as a Bailey plane rather than as a Stanley.
Leonard Bailey perfected the modern metal plane and sold many under
his own name until Stanley purchased his patents in the late 1800s.
Stanley then used the Bailey name on their planes for several decades.
So there are Bailey and Stanley+Bailey planes.
https://virginiatoolworks.com/2012/04/23/stanley-vs-bailey-a-short-history/
If he's selling a rare non-Stanley Bailey No. 8 plane, then it's likely worth
some serious money. If it's a Stanley plane with the name Bailey on it, then
it's likely a relatively common No. 8 jointer plane and worth $50 to $200
depending on condition. The true "creme de la creme" of jointer planes is
a Stanley "Bedrock" No. 608 in perfect condition dating from the 1920s
or 1930s. Lie Nelson Toolworks make an improved copy of this plane for
a mere $475...
https://www.lie-nielsen.com/product/standard-bench-planes/no.-8-jointer-plane?node=4171
Geeky collector issues aside, if his No. 8 has original rosewood handles
and is in good working condition, then it will make a nice "user" plane.
Old Stanley planes made in America before 1950 always work better
than new planes made in Asia sold at hardware stores nowadays.
As for the Russell Jennings bits, they're common and you can still find NOS
sets from tool dealers. To give you some idea on pricing for like-new set,
this fellow is usually a bit higher than typical market price...
http://www.jimbodetools.com/Complet...Bits-in-its-Original-3-Tiered-Box-p48160.html
I think I paid about $125 for a similar NOS box set a couple years ago.
Most of my bits were still wrapped in the original paper.
Your guy is selling a "user quality" set, so I'd pass if bits are missing, the
cutting spurs have no remaining life, or if it's a mixed set of brands (Russell
Jennings, Stanley, Irwins, GreenLee). On the other hand, at the right price
(around $30), this is a good first set you can use to practice sharpening...
http://www.fine-tools.com/G-augerbitfile.html
Russell Jennings, Stanley / Russell Jennings, Irwin, GreenLee, etc. all work
about the same if they're sharp. Old vs. new work the same, so long as they
fit your brace and are sharp.
Trivia: The common Russell Jennings No. 100 bits had a double-thread on
the lead screw which looks fine but is actually coarse in use. The more rare
No. 101 bits had a single-thread lead screw like Irwin, etc. which looks more
coarse. Either type works fine.
hsvtoolfool
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Roberts210
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BOTH FOR $15!!?? Wow. I missed that part. Amazing.
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ekegelmann
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YES! I mean i think combined they are worth 200 or so, depending on condition of the plane etc. Thats not counting the other plane of which im not sure it is.. etc. Then the Yankee driver is probable a 25 dollar tool.
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ekegelmann
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ill post good pics around 7. picking the stuff up at 6pm est.
ctb
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The middle bit in your second picture looks like an Irwin patent, not a Russel Jennings, so not a matched set, but for $15 who cares!
Coarser thread bits were mainly for carpenters, medium and fine more for cabinet makers working in hardwoods.
Coarser thread bits were mainly for carpenters, medium and fine more for cabinet makers working in hardwoods.
Roberts210
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My set is fine thread and won't pull into the work in either hard wood or soft.
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ekegelmann
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Posted pics on the bailey 8 on a new thread. Need opinions please. Post pics on this in min
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ekegelmann
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hsvtoolfool
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How many bits do you have? What are their condition? A Russell Jennings box in
fair-to-poor condition is not especially valuable by itself. However, you might want
to research the age of the box. Mine box dates from the 1950s, and your label looks
to be much older. Even so, without the original bits the market value is relatively low.
Sharpen the lead screw threads.
fair-to-poor condition is not especially valuable by itself. However, you might want
to research the age of the box. Mine box dates from the 1950s, and your label looks
to be much older. Even so, without the original bits the market value is relatively low.
Sharpen the lead screw threads.