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Rustoleum Epoxy Shield Users application tech needed

Wangstang

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I am blastrac'ing with the shot blaster today and plan to apply the first coat of Professional (Solvent based) Epoxy shield tomarrow assuming it passes the plastic bag test tonight.

I need to know a few things:

1) What paint rollers did you have success with? Name, model, etc as well as location to purchase

2) What method did you use to mix the paint?

3) What type of resperator/mask did you use with success when applying? Name, model, etc as well as location of purchase

4) I am putting down two coats, directions recomend 16-72hrs between coats. Anyone have personal insight on this?

Thanks,
Wes
 
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Man, you must be a CC'er due to the title of your post. Here is my tech for you:
1. I used the 3M teflon coated rollers at Home Depot. A 3 pack was $9. You will throw away each roller. Once the epoxy starts to harden, it will not come off with xylol.

2. I used the griots garage paint mixer. http://www.griotsgarage.com/catalog....3080&SKU=90045
4-5 minutes to mix the paint well, then give it 30 minutes to setup.

3. I used a AOsafety mask with a p100 filter from mcmastercarr.

4. I gave it 24hrs b/t each coat. I had some leftover so I applied it thicker in some of the high traffic areas.
 
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You hit the nail on the head with the corner-carvers.com thing, looking at your sig, I assume I could find you there as well.

Sounds like my plan will work, I don't know that I will give it a full 24hr period between coats, but proably close to 20ish.

I had planned to rent the blastrac 10" grinder but the blade on the unit I wanted to rent at Home Depot was out of service so I rented the Blastrac shot blaster. I go to use the shot blaster today and it would not recirculate the shot so after about five feet of coverage all the shot was on the floor in the blast area. Home Depot called the blastrac rep and no one could figure it out so I have be left with the 7" hand held to do 550 sq feet. I covered about 225-250sq feet in a little under 2hrs with short breaks to rest my arms. I called it quits at 8pm as I don't want to piss my new neighbors off with all the noise from the vac and grinder. The blade is almost done with it's usefull life and I need to empty the Vac so it's off to Home Depot in the morning to get another blade and some trash bags.

Anyone else out there have any tips?

Thanks
Wes
 
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I'll post pics in the coming days, but I just wanted to add into this thread that so far I have been very pleased/impressed with the Rustoleum Professional grade product I purchased at Lowes in a six gallon bucket ($98.00). I think I may have gotten a little heavy with the flakes(I had purchased two kits and then used both kit's worth of flakes on the second coat) but that is user error so I can't hold it against them. The first coat was soaked up by the ground down concrete, so much so that I actually needed a tad bit more, just enough to cover about the size of a five gallon bucket. The first coat looked really thin when it cured over a 16hr period. It needed a second coat without a doubt. After the second coat things look great so far (knock on wood). It took about 1.5-2hrs to put each coat down including the 30min wait time after mixing. Speaking of mixing I used a power mixer blade that went in my corded drill and it did a great job of mixing the paint.

I will also add that the Blastrac/Sawtrac equipment at the HomeDepot rental let me down. There was a problem with the large walk behind 10" grinder's blade/grinding wheel. Apparently the manufacture sent a ton of these out in an improper balance so they were recalled and HomeDepot failed to get a new blade in even though they turned the old one back in over a month ago. According the Blastrac rep they area available for order but someone in the Atlanta ordering office for HomeDepot dropped the ball and has failed to order the replacements and then ship them to the stores. So...my next choice was the Blastrac shot blaster. The problem with the one at the Home Depot rental was it failed to recirculate the shot. After covering five feet or so, all of the shot would be piled up in the blast zone and the machine would come to a hault. It appeared that what ever releases the shot/regulates the shot was not working properly(the control valve if I recall correctly). Not only did the problem cause the shot to stop movement of the unit and did not feed the system to remove the surface, it also caused an intial dumping that left some pretty good divits in my garage floor. Thankfully I had started right at the edge where I was planing to have some shelving up so I can cover up the divits. After trying for two hours to get the unit working properly by refering to the manual and using some common sense testing, I called Home Depot Rental. Only one person was working that knew anything about them but she was so busy she told me she would call me back in five minutes. 30mins later I called her back because she never called me. She got the Blastrac rep on the second line and everything he could think of I had already tried.

So, after draging the shot blaster back to Home Depot I was left with the 7" hand grinder. Holly **** what a job. It wasn't really all that strenuous on my arms despite the fact that your swinging at 25# assembly that is pulling a vacume as well via a large two motored four stage dry shop vac, but man was it killer for the knees and back. You are croutched over working the surface and 550 sq feet with two layers of material to grind off is a enough to make you take two days.

I had what appeared to be a standard grey Bear paint on the top of the floor but under it was some white substance that appeared to have been dripped or spilled on the surface and was then painted over. The garage has a textured ceiling and I suspsect that the white material was from the texturing. It was some tuff stuff to grind thorugh.

To cover the 550' I ended up renting the grinder for two days ($52.00 a day with the shop vac), went through one Gold diamond blade($49.00) and two Blue diamond blades(%69.00 each). Given that I did not want to piss the new neighbor hood off I only ran the grinder and vac from about 10am-4pm the first day I had it and 10am-230pm the second day I had it.

The funny thing was this, the garage is 550 sq feet. The gold blade is rated by blastrac for 400-500 sq feet. The blue blade is rated by blastrac for 800-100 sq feet. So simply based on blade wear I must have ground 2000-2500 sq feet worth of surface.

What ever you do...if you take this project on, do yourself favor and avoid having to use a hand held grinder.

Wes
 
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