JasonTX
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Doesn't work on the new spray-any-way cans. Remove nozzle, flush with contact cleaner, reinstall nozzle.
Rustoleum spray cans, high output=****
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Ign
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Uh huh. Post #25 already addresses why this won't work. Sometimes "old timers" are so quick to dispense the same old advice they don't look to see what might be causing a new problem.
Be sure to pull the choke on your fuel injected vehicle or it won't start in the cold!
BPJOOP93
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the new cans ****. 2 cans of bed coating both were horrible.
lampare
Well-known member
Time to start hoarding all old cans.
First post, glad I am able to add my thoughts to the frustration and.......... SOLUTION.
My company relies on a specific type of Rustoleum paint. We have been using this paint for over 10 years. Numerous expletives were using during my attempts to work with these new nozzles, and I agree that they are absolute garbage. My first complaint was that they sputter and shoot too narrow, they need a wider fan. That, plus the clogging issues that everyone else has. The ol pin (or thin wire) through the nozzle trick no longer works. I kept wondering why..............................
...........until today, when I got pretty upset and cut up some nozzles and got down to the nitty-gritty! I removed the black cap where the paint exits from, and was real surprised as to what I saw:
The paint needs to travel through these 4 galleys before it is atomized. Take a guess what dries in there? Anyone who's painted knows that you cant really clean these caps well unless you soak them in solvent and blow them out with compressed air.
Solution: You will need 2 caps to make 1 "keeper" cap. Take one cap and slice in half, carefully removing the black nozzle without damaging it. Take the second cap and destroy & remove the black nozzle. Once removed, drill a hole through the center where the 4 slots (galleys) are in the above photo. Re-install the black nozzle from the donor cap. The new cap will be easy to clean as you can now shove a pin through it if you ever need.
Ironically enough, Krylon and Duplicolor have these newer blue nozzles that I'm pretty impressed by - very fine and easy to control.
My company relies on a specific type of Rustoleum paint. We have been using this paint for over 10 years. Numerous expletives were using during my attempts to work with these new nozzles, and I agree that they are absolute garbage. My first complaint was that they sputter and shoot too narrow, they need a wider fan. That, plus the clogging issues that everyone else has. The ol pin (or thin wire) through the nozzle trick no longer works. I kept wondering why..............................
...........until today, when I got pretty upset and cut up some nozzles and got down to the nitty-gritty! I removed the black cap where the paint exits from, and was real surprised as to what I saw:
The paint needs to travel through these 4 galleys before it is atomized. Take a guess what dries in there? Anyone who's painted knows that you cant really clean these caps well unless you soak them in solvent and blow them out with compressed air.
Solution: You will need 2 caps to make 1 "keeper" cap. Take one cap and slice in half, carefully removing the black nozzle without damaging it. Take the second cap and destroy & remove the black nozzle. Once removed, drill a hole through the center where the 4 slots (galleys) are in the above photo. Re-install the black nozzle from the donor cap. The new cap will be easy to clean as you can now shove a pin through it if you ever need.
Ironically enough, Krylon and Duplicolor have these newer blue nozzles that I'm pretty impressed by - very fine and easy to control.
Ign
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Cool, thanks for the tech. Not sure I completely follow but it will probably become clear once I start tearing shtuff up! I'll give it a go....
rburke65
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Well I just screwedup this afternoon when I bought Rustolium by mistake instead of the Krylon.......damn! I'll keep my receipt.
I cannot agree with you more. With as much rattle can paint that Rustoleum sells You would think that the guys that designed this tip would have actually tested it under all types of field conditions. The nozzle is ****. The nozzle on Krylon Paint is actually a fan like a pro spray gun, and they did not use a valve spring from a mack truck that you have to push in to spray paint. The other thing that drives me crazy about Rustoleum is the drying time, and what happens to your work if you re-coat according to their instructions. Their stated times are wrong. This paint does not dry to recoat in 24 hours. I just waited 36 hours in 50% RH and above 70 degress F and the damn recoat areas are mud cracking. I actually hate Rustoleum, and will not use that damn **** ever again. You may have better luck, but I don't know why they can not do better.
Dont waste your time, your money or your blood pressure on Rustoleum rattle cans. You can buy a decent spray gun from Gleem Paint, or Campbell Hausfeld Online and with a small air compressor, you can do some really nice work without the constant aggravation of Rustoleum Spray Cans, and the cost of paint will go way down as you aren't paying for propellant. Spray cans used to be convenient, now they are just a PIA, especially Rustoleum. Krylon and Duplicolor are much better for really small jobs. Their nozzles actually work. Nothing like doing all that prep work then having a nozzle designed by an engineer from the women's undergarment department spit globs on your work.
Ign
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Thus far I've just purchased a couple of the adapters from one of the aftermarket spray paint/"graffiti" places and am using the old style tips. They offer a bunch of their own or I hoarde the old red Rustoleum tips, too.
It still kinda ***** 'cause I have to remember to pull my special adapter from the can(s) before I throw them in the recycling. But I still like Rustoleum (esp the Professional stuff as it dries faster and I've experienced little or no mud cracking with it) so this is my consumer work-around for the moment. But yeah, still disappointed with Rustoleum that they now make me, the consumer, deal with this.
It still kinda ***** 'cause I have to remember to pull my special adapter from the can(s) before I throw them in the recycling. But I still like Rustoleum (esp the Professional stuff as it dries faster and I've experienced little or no mud cracking with it) so this is my consumer work-around for the moment. But yeah, still disappointed with Rustoleum that they now make me, the consumer, deal with this.
zip95864
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I'm a fan ----- shake it really well ---- and wipe the tip every few minutes
PugetDude
ALLIANCE MEMBER
Best way to describe the new Rustoleum spray nozzles:
"Spoogenspritzen"
"Spoogenspritzen"
Ign
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Perfect! Also sucksalot comes to mind, and designedbystupidperson.
G_P
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I like the good ACE Hardware spraycans. They still use the blue adjustable fanspray nozzles.
My last experience with rustoleum ended badly with the splatter nozzle and paint that took 3 damn days to dry hung in my basement that has a dehumidifier.
The ACE paint fully dries overnight and always looks good!
Sent via carrier pigeon.
My last experience with rustoleum ended badly with the splatter nozzle and paint that took 3 damn days to dry hung in my basement that has a dehumidifier.
The ACE paint fully dries overnight and always looks good!
Sent via carrier pigeon.
Ign
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I used some of the Ace Rust Stop Caterpillar Yellow once on a snowblower ramp I built. It was like spraying on yellow water. 5 coats later and it started to hide the mill scale.
Maybe it was just the wrong color or the Rust Stop stuff is worse than their regular paint?
Maybe it was just the wrong color or the Rust Stop stuff is worse than their regular paint?
dadsEH
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Yes kiddies... an 'yellow' is a ***** to get good coverage with as it is diluted more than most other colours to give it the opacity , hence your aggravation.
Had you sprayed on a coat of white undercoat you would have had excellent coverage in half the time... but you already knew that.
I'm currently working with 2 Rustoleum products on a refrigerator color transformation.
Rustoleum Appliance Epoxy
So far I am just about through 3 cans trying to get decent coverage on just the body of the fridge. I haven't started on the doors yet. I think the product sprays ok. The overspray is crazy. I'm just having trouble preventing "tiger striping" and getting full coverage. I've been spraying edge to edge, top to bottom, overlapping each coat. Any tips?
Rustoleum Ultra Cover 2X Flat Black
I like how this product sprays. It does spray in any orientation which is awesome for trying to hit the nooks and crannies on the plastic fridge components. Specifically the bottom grill. Coverage seems to be very good after only 2 coats.
ac
Rustoleum Appliance Epoxy
So far I am just about through 3 cans trying to get decent coverage on just the body of the fridge. I haven't started on the doors yet. I think the product sprays ok. The overspray is crazy. I'm just having trouble preventing "tiger striping" and getting full coverage. I've been spraying edge to edge, top to bottom, overlapping each coat. Any tips?
Rustoleum Ultra Cover 2X Flat Black
I like how this product sprays. It does spray in any orientation which is awesome for trying to hit the nooks and crannies on the plastic fridge components. Specifically the bottom grill. Coverage seems to be very good after only 2 coats.
ac
softailgarage
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I started a thread like this last year. I ended up getting some money back from Rustoleum after sending them a copy of the thread. It seems the problem is with some and not with others, for example the "Ultra Cover 2x Clear Coat", I have 2 cans I bought last month, cant get anything to come out. I haven't bitched because I should have known better.
http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=142155
http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=142155
Ign
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No, I didn't need to know any of that 'cause I've used Rustoleum's yellow (I forget the exact name they assign it - perhaps "Brilliant Yellow") with far better results.
I am sure by now they realise they "have a problem". The real problem lays with how much they already have invested in the new design. Until the company wants to upgrade again they will continue to appease the squeaky wheels(myself is in that group that have been reimbursed for several cans) which would cost less up front. The real cost that most bean counters dont add in is the pissed off consumer who now buys their product elsewhere. So, Rustoleum if you are out there watching in, please start the R&D again to fix this issue.
IndyGarage
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I had this exact problem last week.
I was spraying automotive primer - never had a problem with it before - then all the sudden it starts gobbing up on me.
I threw that can away and started another can - same thing.
Yeah, I could fill up my spray gun and get a good finish, but it takes 20 minutes to clean when I'm done. For a small part, I'd rather use a decent spray can and be done with it.
I was spraying automotive primer - never had a problem with it before - then all the sudden it starts gobbing up on me.
I threw that can away and started another can - same thing.
Yeah, I could fill up my spray gun and get a good finish, but it takes 20 minutes to clean when I'm done. For a small part, I'd rather use a decent spray can and be done with it.
I'm a big fan of Krylon paint. It dries lightning fast and is very durable. The fan nozzle can be turned to spray with a horizontal or vertical fan pattern. Krylon is an alkyd enamel.
The one important point to remember with Krylon is to follow the re-coat window or the paint will craze. If you sand a coat, it is best to wait 24 hours before adding another coat or the paint might also craze.
After using, turn the can upside down and spray until a clear gas stream appears. This will keep the spray valve from plugging.
The one important point to remember with Krylon is to follow the re-coat window or the paint will craze. If you sand a coat, it is best to wait 24 hours before adding another coat or the paint might also craze.
After using, turn the can upside down and spray until a clear gas stream appears. This will keep the spray valve from plugging.
How did I not see this thread before? What a ************* purchase. I thought it was me. Imagine how many people are buying this ****, and thinking it is them doing something wrong. Time to go get my money back. And I bought 10 cans. Damn, 9 to return.
Ron Fletcher
Banned
I had problems with a can last year. I was painting the air cleaner on my car- black and after I painted it, the paint looked like a turtle's shell. It started to look eggshelled and lumpy. So, I sanded it down and started over. I got the same results. I painted it three times and finally gave up. It isn't too bad but it sure didn't turn out as good as their paint had in the past. I thought if I put a second coat on it would fill in all of the pock marks. Nope. They got worse. And yes.......I did shake the can. I too have been using it for years with terrific results and never had that problem.
