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Sad and tiny 3.5" Wilton Vise - is there hope?

sparklemotion

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I paid an embarrassing amount of money for this Wilton 3.5" (width) vise (online auction, pictures weren't fully representative, beer-fueled bidding war in the last two minutes).

I am pretty sure that the numbers on the fixed jaw say 121068, so it should look something like this or this. Obviously, it does not, though I did buy it thinking it would be fun to do some restoration on.

Based on the look of that dynamic jaw though, I'm highly tempted to make it go sit in a corner for a couple years before I finally decide to scrap it. But... I'm wondering if this could be the start of an unreasonable, yet highly educational project. I think I might like to try casting a new dynamic jaw.

See, Mr. Motion made himself a beer keg foundry last year, and has a pretty good process for casting aluminum. And I'll admit that I've had my eye open for a decent project to try it out for myself. Aluminum doesn't seem like the right material for this though (density, strength, etc). And neither of us wants to encourage the other to try casting iron at home.

But *I* do a lot of work in copper, so I've got access to a few pounds of copper scrap (and know where to get more). And there are plenty of recipes for Aluminum Bronze out there on net, and this is a tiny vise that I'd probably only ever use to hold tiny non-ferrous pieces for filing and the like, so...

My question is: is it completely crazy to try to cast this part from aluminum bronze? It's obviously not worth it for the time or the money, but it would give me an excuse to learn some molding and casting techniques, so I'm willing to go for it, unless the result will be completely useless.
 

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ssdave

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There's hundreds of other items I'd learn to cast before this. First, you don't have a good part to start from for a pattern. Second, shrinkage/warpage will make it worse. Third, there's a fair amount of machine work that needs done once it's cast. Fourth, you're creating the part out of inferior material even if you're successful.

Figure you got enough education out of buying the vise, and resell it for parts for someone else to work with.
 

sgs236

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If you decide to scrap it, let me know. I would be interested in buying swivel base. I have the same vise with a cracked base.
 

Carla

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Well, you're not the first person to take a loss on ebay, by bidding on an 'inadequately described' item, and you'll not be the last.......everyone I've known, who bought thingamies on ebay, got a 'lemon', eventually. Yours, at least, was a relatively 'affordable' bit of 'learning-curve'.

That poor battered vise could have a useful career ahead of it, tho, as an 'expendable' welding-table vise, where it will be further abused, and so will spare a nicer vise from the heat, arcs and sparks.

cheers

Carla
 
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davethorik

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I think it's funny someone would even bid on a junk vise like that. That just goes to show the power of the Wilton name. People that know nothing about vises are like, OMG wilton!
 

Packard V8

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You could pick up a better vise any day of the week. Of all the projects worthy of time and money, that isn't it. However, those into rescue dogs say one cannot put a price on everything.

jack vines
 

Maui

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Part it out and find another (better) vise for your personal use. Since SGS could use the swivel base, you could probably get a good portion of your original purchase price back. From my perspective that vise isn't worth the time or money to repair.

Maui
 

Corndoggeh

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Thats is a smaller but exact lookalike to my 5in Montgomery ward vise. Pretty durable but the base lock is kinda weak. You technically could clean it up and make it a designated soft jaw vise with brass or copper. How much did this beer fueled bidding war cost you?
 
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disston

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Part it out. It will never again be what it once was. Most of us have learned to shy away from those auctions with poor pictures or incomplete views. But don't worry you will not be missed. There are plenty of other suckers out there.

Now buy something that you can be proud of and enjoy using.

You cannot step twice into the same river. --- Herakleitos
 

Al Borland

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Have some fun with it.
Cast a new dynamic jaw from lead, paint it up to look normal. Get you friends over to help with some project that requires using the vise. Have them clamp something in the vise and make a video. Put it on youtube.
Be the "Weird Al" of the Garage Journal.
Lead chisels are fun too...
 

Slackmaster G

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Oh man e-bay and alcohol.never drink at a bar and bid on a tiny cell phone with banana fingers or you will end up bidding $1600 for a set of old wrenches. Just saying. That cured me of the evil e-bay habit
 
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