SAE Mahindra?

[6PTsocket]

In a recent thread somebody said that the metric manufacturers if the World no longer cater to to the use of SAE hardware in the US. As we have largely switched over most of our hardware, in an international market, I did not disagree.
I just saw a TV ad for Mahindra tractors. When they zoomed I was looking at a couple of big fat yellow zinc grade 8 bolts. Isn't Mahindra Indian? WTF.

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[seber]

Zinc grade 8 are available in metric.

 

[HOTFR8]

Mahindra is from India.

 

[Toothaker]

So the video zoomed in on some yellow zinc bolts. Were they marked like a Grade 8, with six lines going out to the points?

Metric bolts aren't marked for grade in the same manner. There are different names for the same grade. There is no "Grade 8" in metric - the equivalent grade is called 10.9 and has "10.9" on the bolt head.

 

[driftpin]

One of my acquaintances who runs his own shop has a Mahindra micro-truck. It doesn't look like a safe truck to have in an accident.

 

[sk farmer]

mahindra tractors are made in india.

any attachment to the tractor such as loaders, belly mowers and three point implements are probably made her in the usa of with you guessed it.......sae hardware!

 

[gearhead1]

Not sure if this is true, but I heard when International sold the tractor business, the plant in India was sold to Mahindra. That could be where the SAE comes from. I also know Mahindra rebadged some models from TYM (South Korea) because I have a Mahindra 4110 tractor and the data tag says TYM. It’s a very tangled web.

 

[ishiboo]

mahindra tractors are made in india.

any attachment to the tractor such as loaders, belly mowers and three point implements are probably made her in the usa of with you guessed it.......sae hardware!

I bet that's it. Loader probably made by Amerequip.

Even foreign tractors use some SAE. Often the hydraulic connections/fittings are still NPT. My Kubota had NPT hydraulic fittings and BSP for a few things like engine oil ports.

 

[ishiboo]

One of my acquaintances who runs his own shop has a Mahindra micro-truck. It doesn't look like a safe truck to have in an accident.

The Mahindra tractors sold in the US these days are highly competitive with Deere/Kubota/etc... not pieces of **** like that micro probably is.

 

[WittHay]

Not sure if this is true, but I heard when International sold the tractor business, the plant in India was sold to Mahindra. That could be where the SAE comes from. I also know Mahindra rebadged some models from TYM (South Korea) because I have a Mahindra 4110 tractor and the data tag says TYM. It’s a very tangled web.

The Indian plant was a joint venture between IH and Mahindra in the 60's and 70's. The tractors were based on the IH McCormick made in England. B275, 434, 364's and the like. Those tractors all used SAE hardware.

Present day I am sure they use all metric hardware. Have a Indian made JD 5403 that is metric.

 

[AA/FC]

The Mahindra tractors sold in the US these days are highly competitive with Deere/Kubota/etc... not pieces of **** like that micro probably is.

The brand new Mahindrea tractor that ChuckE2009 (large YouTube welding chanel) bought was/is a huge steaming pile of **** with a completely useless warranty.... and even worse customer service from the Texas dealer he bought it from. A year or so after he bought the Mahindra, he bought a brand new Kubota, which is a FAR superior tractor. He still owns both tractors and has absolutely nothing good to say about the Mahindra. But don't take my word for it..... go to his channel and watch the videos he made about this topic.


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[6PTsocket]

Zinc grade 8 are available in metric.

Metric bolts do not use the SAE system to designate bolt strength. They call it class, not grade and they use numbers like 5.6, 8.8 and 10.9 on the bolt head, not the radiating lines used in the SAE system. The.number on either side of the decimal point are actually two different specs. There is a good chart on the Fastenal site. For quicker proof go to Lowes or HD and look in the bins. 10.9 roughly corresponds to grade 8 in strength but the marking system tells you whether it is metric or SAE.

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[6PTsocket]

So the video zoomed in on some yellow zinc bolts. Were they marked like a Grade 8, with six lines going out to the points?

Metric bolts aren't marked for grade in the same manner. There are different names for the same grade. There is no "Grade 8" in metric - the equivalent grade is called 10.9 and has "10.9" on the bolt head.

Why are you telling me what I just stated. I said there were SAE bolts on a tractor made in India. I was wondering why at a time when the US has gone almost completely metric on all types of vehicles, Mahindra would use SAE bolts. Are big farm tractors still SAE?

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[6PTsocket]

The Indian plant was a joint venture between IH and Mahindra in the 60's and 70's. The tractors were based on the IH McCormick made in England. B275, 434, 364's and the like. Those tractors all used SAE hardware.

Present day I am sure they use all metric hardware. Have a Indian made JD 5403 that is metric.

The ad I saw was yesterday. I'm pretty sure they are not using a 60s or 70s tractor in their current TV ads. I guess they are using SAE for attachments, etc, as has been mentioned. I should have known this would turn into a debate on Mahindra quality. I was just curious how SAE fasteners got on a new import from India.

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[desertdog256]

Some Mahindra tractors may be imports, but Mahindra now has five assembly plants in the US in Texas, California, Pennsylvania, Kansas, and Tennessee. I believe Mahindra USA hq is in Houston.

 

[ishiboo]

The brand new Mahindrea tractor that ChuckE2009 (large YouTube welding chanel) bought was/is a huge steaming pile of **** with a completely useless warranty.... and even worse customer service from the Texas dealer he bought it from. A year or so after he bought the Mahindra, he bought a brand new Kubota, which is a FAR superior tractor. He still owns both tractors and has absolutely nothing good to say about the Mahindra. But don't take my word for it..... go to his channel and watch the videos he made about this topic.


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I'm not a huge ChuckE2009 fan and I'm not a Mahindra fan, but I'm familiar with the videos. The main thing I got from them is not to hire ChuckE to fix anything.

 

[finn]

The loaders on Mahindra tractors are made by KMW in Kansas. As such, it should surprise no one that SAE hardware is used.

The original Mahindra tractors were built under license using International Harvestor intellectual property, ie, designsback in the sixties. I’m sure there have been many generations of redesign in the interim, but suspect many of the original machine tools would be traceable to those old designs, so there is a heritage of SAE designs and hardware at Mahindra.

When a new product is designed, especially a capital intensive one, reuse of existing assets keeps the project cost down.

 

[AA/FC]

I'm not a huge ChuckE2009 fan and I'm not a Mahindra fan, but I'm familiar with the videos. The main thing I got from them is not to hire ChuckE to fix anything.

Lolol. Well, I'm not a huge fan either. I watch him when I have nothing else to watch. As far as him fixing things, I couldn't agree more. LOL. However, he did have a few good legitimate complaints about Mahindra that can't be denied. Either way, I don't have a dog in this fight so it really doesn't make any difference to me, I will never be in the market for a new tractor..... So with that said, Mahindra is the greatest tractor on Earth!

 

[ishiboo]

Lolol. Well, I'm not a huge fan either. I watch him when I have nothing else to watch. As far as him fixing things, I couldn't agree more. LOL. However, he did have a few good legitimate complaints about Mahindra that can't be denied. Either way, I don't have a dog in this fight so it really doesn't make any difference to me, I will never be in the market for a new tractor..... So with that said, Mahindra is the greatest tractor on Earth!

It doesn't start, so instead of spending a moment testing he immediately cuts out both safety switches and replaces them with wire nuts. Wow. Then the content if the video essentially becomes the warranty isn't great, but he readily admits he would buy another Mahindra and then they're not that bad.

Also no dog in the fight. I'm not personally impressed with them, they're just not that bad.

 

[guy48065]

It doesn't start, so instead of spending a moment testing he immediately cuts out both safety switches and replaces them with wire nuts. Wow. Then the content if the video essentially becomes the warranty isn't great, but he readily admits he would buy another Mahindra and then they're not that bad.

Also no dog in the fight. I'm not personally impressed with them, they're just not that bad.

Apparently "someone" told him all the safeties are problematic so...chop chop.
I guess wire nuts are SO much more reliable. Who needs safety?

 

[ishiboo]

Some Mahindra tractors may be imports, but Mahindra now has five assembly plants in the US in Texas, California, Pennsylvania, Kansas, and Tennessee. I believe Mahindra USA hq is in Houston.

I think most tractors made overseas go through final assembly in the US, as far as I know. The Mahindra are still manufactured overseas... it's just cheaper to throw the major pieces together here.