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BombShelter

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You should look into adding the back side, I bet the total price would be easier to handle. Most of these guys seem to be one trailer shops and your job is on the small side so your eating a lot of the front end costs.

Contractors have a lot of their gross skimmed off by taxes and insurance, both seem to go up every year, toss in a major increases in supplies and gas and jobs all the sudden are 2x the cost of last year. If I had to guess, worker's comp for ladder users is probably around 20% of their paycheck. While the job seems easy, all the little costs add up quickly.
 
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Man, you aint kidding! Just yesterday I met my wife for lunch at one of our local Panda Expresses (not my fault, she likes it :rolleyes: ) and they actually had a recruitment sign in the lobby saying that regular line workers can make something like $40k and the salaries went up from there. I think the manager position was something in the high $70K's!

I get it - there's inflation, and I'm out of touch with a lot of things, but how the hell does somebody get paid $40k/yr to slop some crappy Chinese food into a bowl?!

Yeah, why should people working fast food get paid enough on one job to live?

Managers at panda can make over 100k pretty quickly.
Like the other post clarified, $20 per hour is $40K a year. not a big deal.

As for the manager, they will pay him salary and he will get to work all the hours he wants! For his 100K a year he will work 60-70 hour weeks.

A buddy managed a Pizza hut. With all the hours he worked he joked that the kid washing dishes got paid more per hour.
 

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Like the other post clarified, $20 per hour is $40K a year. not a big deal.

As for the manager, they will pay him salary and he will get to work all the hours he wants! For his 100K a year he will work 60-70 hour weeks.

A buddy managed a Pizza hut. With all the hours he worked he joked that the kid washing dishes got paid more per hour.

Like you said the manager's "salary" is hourly, not a true fixed number. The base rate varies by region, and the gross pay depends on store performance bonus, commission, etc. Saying they pay $100k is misleading.



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Like you said the manager's "salary" is hourly, not a true fixed number. The base rate varies by region, and the gross pay depends on store performance bonus, commission, etc. Saying they pay $100k is misleading.
I am surprised they pay the manager hourly. Most restaurant managers I know are paid salary and get to work all they want.

$30 per hour is only $62K so they must have a complicated bonus structure that is hard to maintain.
 

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I am surprised they pay the manager hourly. Most restaurant managers I know are paid salary and get to work all they want.

$30 per hour is only $62K so they must have a complicated bonus structure that is hard to maintain.

It's the "commission" that throws me a bit. I think its in part catering and the fundraising program. Seems almost like a sales job in that way.

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A friend works in the wholesale end and says the roll stock has almost doubled in the last year and a half.
Sure, but the cost of the materials does not affect the final price, much any way.

I had gutters put on our house. One shop quoted painted steel. Another quoted some fancy vinyl clad steel or something similar, I forget. The one quote was for $750, the other was $1400. I went with the lower price knowing the other material was better, but not twice the price better.

The company with the higher quote called me for a followup and T told them I was going with the other guys. Of course they went on with their sales speal about how their product was better. I responded with, "I agree yours is better, but not twice the price better!"

Consider labor for the job was the same, the equipment needed was pretty much the same. The only difference was the material the gutter was made from. I told the salesman that their material was not $700 higher priced and added if he was maybe $1,000 more would have gone with them. Also, at the time I worked for a sheet metal shop and had a pretty good idea what the material cost was for either company and it was not very much, maybe $100 for the cheap bid, and perhaps $200 for the higher bid. Most of the cost in the bids were for labor and to cover the equipment costs, the material cost was not a huge deal. The salesman tolsd me I would be sorry and replaceing the gutters in twenty years. Well, it has been thirty years and no plans to replace the gutters.
 

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I don't remember the exact amounts but my father-in-law had leaf filter come out and give them an estimate. It was pretty high so he told the guy it was more than he wanted to spend. The guy then dropped the quoted price twice but my father-in-law still said he was gonna wait.
The "supervisor" called him the next day and offered to do it for half the original amount if he was willing to wait for a opening when they had another job close by. Two days later the gutters were up.
 

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I don't remember the exact amounts but my father-in-law had leaf filter come out and give them an estimate. It was pretty high so he told the guy it was more than he wanted to spend. The guy then dropped the quoted price twice but my father-in-law still said he was gonna wait.
The "supervisor" called him the next day and offered to do it for half the original amount if he was willing to wait for a opening when they had another job close by. Two days later the gutters were up.
We had the same situation with the leaf guards. Living in an area surrounded by trees, the gutters would need cleaned regularly. My wife doesn't want me on a ladder anymore so she called to get an estimate. Guy came out and gave some ridiculous quote, but by the time he left he had cut the price in half. Next day he called and dropped it even further. Next day they came out and did it. I forget the brand name but they work great.
 

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I paid $1460 cash for 88 linear feet total, two eaves, in July 2023. Seamless. Included +- 40 linear feet of downspouts.

Quality work, excellent color match, in and out in 3 hours.
 

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I just had 60 feet of 6" galvalume gutter installed on my new pavilion and with downspouts it cost me $680. They pulled up with the trailer and the machine pooped em out in two continuous 30' lengths.
I did the leaf guards myself with packs of those perforated 2 foot sections found on amazon and some ss zip screws. Took no time at all and saved a bunch of $.
 
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Update: got another bid that came in at a tick under $1300 for my project. While this was cheaper than my first bid, the real win for me was that this contractor came out the very next day and banged the job out in a couple of hours! He and his helper definitely knew what they were doing and moved efficiently through the job.
In the end I'm happy, but now it probably won't rain until next autumn (weird El Nino year). ;)
 

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I had two 64 ft seamless gutters with 4 downspouts installed in 2021 or 2022. They charged me about $750 for those gutters installed.

Buddy of mine just got a quote for an install. 4 gutters with 4 downspouts around 180 ft. I think he told me the price was $1500.





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I paid 1200- for (2) 60' seamless gutters (6") and single downspouts on each side on my garage last fall.
 

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For what it's worth two gutter guys hung my gutters, 56' long and fourteen feet high. Can't imagine sixteen feet high being much fun.
 
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zippyslug31

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For what it's worth two gutter guys hung my gutters, 56' long and fourteen feet high. Can't imagine sixteen feet high being much fun.
I'm with you. I've gone up onto that roof a few times and it's always pretty intense transitioning to/from the top of the ladder.
The crew that did my job made use of one of these when they were up there having to lean over the abyss. Thought it was pretty cool and I want to pick one up myself for the next time I have to work close to the edge.
 

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Just got a quote from Leaf Filter for my shop- 6" aluminum, 2-34 runs with 1 drop each, no guards: $2998 before discounts. After Senior( $300 ), door hanger tag (15%), Flex Install, for when they're already in the area (%10 ) $2064. I had to try to not laugh, or choke
 

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I paid $800 cash for a single 74’ seamless 6” run with two downspouts. Two scrappy dudes in and out in less than 20 minutes working off ladders 18’ in the air and it looks amazing.

Same dudes did our new house about a year ago and were in and out in around two hours with (I think) 155’ of 5” seamless in 5 chunks with 6 downspouts and that fancy SS mesh to keep the debris out. I think it was around $2,000. Couldn’t be happier.

A good buddy of mine owns the company they work for and he said he wishes he had 100 teams like them. I couldn’t believe how fast they worked and how nice it looked.
 

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Well that all sounds like BS fluff.
It gets worse for a company that advertises how great they are: get 3 phone calls a couple of hours later from a woman in Seattle I don't know. Spam? Check voicemail and it's the salesman on his girls phone stating they have another job within a mile of our home in 8 days, so can package our job with that trip and it will only cost $1094! Cost dropped from $3k to $2k to $1.1k over 4 hours. How crooked is that? Maybe I'll counter offer $800 tomorrow...
 

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After all the previous BS from Leaf Filter, I declined the offer( even tho it may be the best one I get). 1 local, independent guy said $1500 OTD. The roofing company I used gave me the number of the company they use, also local. I'll be calling him tomorrow.
 

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Hired an local, independent company( owner is installer and has done 3 similar shops in my immediate area) Quoted me $840 for 68' and 2-12' downspouts. Say he has a color to match my trim! He is the guy my roofer recommended!
 
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