dfndr
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Anyone use this in their small garage shop? How do you like it? Pleased with investment?
Sawstop portable
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Ive heard alot of contractors complain about misfires in wet lumber. I guess it depends on your application.
Personally I dont see the purpose and I've cut myself twice on a table saw before. Table saw accidents dont generally happen to new users who are still scared of and have respect for the saw. They happen to guys like myself who have been using them for 20+ years who get too comfortable around that whirling blade of death and destruction.
I'd recommend the dewalt DW745 for a good small table saw
Personally I dont see the purpose and I've cut myself twice on a table saw before. Table saw accidents dont generally happen to new users who are still scared of and have respect for the saw. They happen to guys like myself who have been using them for 20+ years who get too comfortable around that whirling blade of death and destruction.
I'd recommend the dewalt DW745 for a good small table saw
ndnchf
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A buddy of mine has one. We found it will shut off with pressure treated lumber due to the moisture content. But other than that, he loves it.
kythri
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Does it simply shut-off, or does it **** the bed like the original model (thrash the blade into an aluminum block requiring expensive cartridge replacement) ??
ndnchf
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It just shuts off, doesn't jam the blade. It displayed a code indicating wet wood.
mike93lx
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You can also override when cutting wet wood or metal.
I don't have the saws top but do use a dewalt portable that is comparable. I love being able to move my saw to the project and fold it away when not needed. I use my 2 car garage as a shop when a project is underway, but we also use it for parking, so compact is critical.
Biggest downside to small saws are fence capacity (but my dewalt is 32",so plenty) and outfeed support. I made a removable table that hangs right on the frame and adds about 5 Sq ft to the table.
I don't have the saws top but do use a dewalt portable that is comparable. I love being able to move my saw to the project and fold it away when not needed. I use my 2 car garage as a shop when a project is underway, but we also use it for parking, so compact is critical.
Biggest downside to small saws are fence capacity (but my dewalt is 32",so plenty) and outfeed support. I made a removable table that hangs right on the frame and adds about 5 Sq ft to the table.
neophyte
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Black & Decker tested the “inventors” prototype, and basically told him to take a hike based on the fact it kept miss firing in wet lumber and pressure treated wood. Something he apparently didn’t realize, because he was too ******* stupid to properly test it himself with home center lumber.
He had to add the override feature because of this, which basically negates the safety function, since most contractors will probably just leave the saw running if they have to cut a bunch of lumber, since having to de set the safety function or test each piece of lumber would be a complete pain.
speed bump
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We have one at work nobody has any complaints about it. Seems like it gets set off about once a year, either from ******* or conductive materials.
Ton ton
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Interesting to see. I use a Makita table saw but Saw stop has intrigued me.
Bigblockyeti
Banned
Makita makes and sells powertools, sawstop asks for political favors to force a $400 foreign made saw on the public with an additional $1100 safety feature added, that needs to be turned off to use in construction where moisture will be present.
Do yourself a massive favor and keep the quality saw you have, don't downgrade!
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I bought the Jobsite Saw this summer, although mine is not the version that just came out. A number of folks dislike the inventor of Sawstop for his approach in trying to mandate his technology becoming a safety requirement. As a consequence, there’s a some folks that want nothing to do with the saws. The company was purchased by Festool and, as far as I can tell, the inventor is no longer involved.
I purchased the saw for a project that I haven’t gotten to yet, so I have no feedback for actual use. My primary uses will be woodworking projects but I don’t have the room for a non-mobile saw. If I did have room, I probably would have purchased one of the cabinet Sawstops. It’s pretty hard to find a negative review that doesn’t focus on the inventor’s methods. There are several that conduct test with wet lumber on YouTube. General consensus is that the Sawstop Jobsite saw is a very good contender if not winner in the category but it comes at a premium. My father, who is pushing 80, will be using the saw and I have a two-year old that I want to get involved in my projects as she matures. The potential costs for an accident for any of the three of us far outweighs the cost of entry in my mind. Had the Bosch Reaxx been available, I likely would have given it strong consideration due to a less obtrusive stop mechanism.
Observations so far: build quality exceeds what I’ve seen on other jobsite saws, the stand is very nice on par with the (Bosch gravity rise), onboard storage makes for a compact and well laid out setup that’s easy to store.
I purchased the saw for a project that I haven’t gotten to yet, so I have no feedback for actual use. My primary uses will be woodworking projects but I don’t have the room for a non-mobile saw. If I did have room, I probably would have purchased one of the cabinet Sawstops. It’s pretty hard to find a negative review that doesn’t focus on the inventor’s methods. There are several that conduct test with wet lumber on YouTube. General consensus is that the Sawstop Jobsite saw is a very good contender if not winner in the category but it comes at a premium. My father, who is pushing 80, will be using the saw and I have a two-year old that I want to get involved in my projects as she matures. The potential costs for an accident for any of the three of us far outweighs the cost of entry in my mind. Had the Bosch Reaxx been available, I likely would have given it strong consideration due to a less obtrusive stop mechanism.
Observations so far: build quality exceeds what I’ve seen on other jobsite saws, the stand is very nice on par with the (Bosch gravity rise), onboard storage makes for a compact and well laid out setup that’s easy to store.
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Ton ton
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Thanks, marantzer.
mike93lx
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Their Blade lift mechanism is slick. Very fast.
Ron Paulk on YouTube switched to them a while back and really seems to enjoy them.
Ron Paulk on YouTube switched to them a while back and really seems to enjoy them.
Minnesota Steve
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First of all, I'm always amazed at the number of people who jump onto sawstop threads proclaiming you can't rip pressure treated lumber as if that is something anyone would reasonably want to do. I have to say such comments can be safely ignored.
I don't have this particular one. I went from a Dewalt jobsite saw to a Sawstop PCS.
The big limiting factor on a lot of jobsite saws at least for woodworking is that they don't have a lot of table before the blade so they're difficult to use for crosscutting, even with a sled. The new Sawstop jobsite, one of the changes they made was to increase the depth. I haven't measured it, but from seeing it in the store it does appear to have a good amount of table before the blade. Otherwise, the rest of it looks fairly decent. I know they also updated the fence on this new jobsite, and it looks decent.
I really think it's worth looking at. I also have a very small shop, although mine is in the basement rather than garage and if I was doing it again I would likely consider the new Sawstop jobsite for the space savings.
I don't have this particular one. I went from a Dewalt jobsite saw to a Sawstop PCS.
The big limiting factor on a lot of jobsite saws at least for woodworking is that they don't have a lot of table before the blade so they're difficult to use for crosscutting, even with a sled. The new Sawstop jobsite, one of the changes they made was to increase the depth. I haven't measured it, but from seeing it in the store it does appear to have a good amount of table before the blade. Otherwise, the rest of it looks fairly decent. I know they also updated the fence on this new jobsite, and it looks decent.
I really think it's worth looking at. I also have a very small shop, although mine is in the basement rather than garage and if I was doing it again I would likely consider the new Sawstop jobsite for the space savings.
I bought the original sawstop jobsite saw a few weeks ago while it was on sale for $999. I haven't used it a lot, bit for a few dozen rips I've made so far I'm happy with it. I have a Festool track saw for breaking down plywood so the fence will rarely be set at more than 12" in my shop. I will also generally use the track saw to crosscut anything sizable, so that limitation is also not relevant to my use case. The limited space in front of the blade is noticable though - if it wasn't for the sale I would have paid $100 more for the new jobsite pro saw to get an additional 2" of table in front of the blade.
I haven't ripped any wet or pressure treated lumber yet. If I do I have no problem putting the saw in bypass during those cuts to avoid any risk of false trips.
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I haven't ripped any wet or pressure treated lumber yet. If I do I have no problem putting the saw in bypass during those cuts to avoid any risk of false trips.
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New member, middle aged handyman looking for feedback. I currently have a Makita jobsite saw in a Rousseau mobile table with their outfield table. It’s a great piece of equipment and fairly easy to put in my truck and move. I’ve been thinking about upgrading to the Sawstop Jobsite Pro, but their outfeed table does not work on that saw, and it’s ridiculously expensive as it is. Does anyone have any experience either adapting another outfeed table or building one for the saw stop jobsite saw? i’m really looking for something that’s easy to put up and take down, and either move around my garage shop or put in my truck to go somewhere.
UncleJoe
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I have the older version of the sawstop jobsite saw. Best damn jobsite saw ever. Sorry but it is. If your cutting wet wood the bypass instructions are right there and easy to use.
The features are very good the blade lift is the best. The cuts are good and the fence is very good.
I love mine what else can be said
The features are very good the blade lift is the best. The cuts are good and the fence is very good.
I love mine what else can be said
Buy2Much
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How is that blade lift on the jobsite saw? Can you sneak up on say a 1/32"
It seems like it might move too fast?
For example I make half laps on a tablesaw, and usually cut a little shallow then sneak up on it and recut both sides until perfect.
It seems like it might move too fast?
For example I make half laps on a tablesaw, and usually cut a little shallow then sneak up on it and recut both sides until perfect.
Ton ton
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Some people claim that power tools are relatively safe. I have seen 2-3 people with injured hands due to table saws. My brother I saw the accident happen, some things you don't forget.
I had one for a few years, was quite happy with it and got good results. Used exclusively in my home garage as a hobbyist woodworker and DIYer. I’ve since upgraded to the Sawstop Cabinet saw now that I’ve moved to a larger home with a bigger garage.
For your use case (table saw used mostly for rip cuts track saw used for x cuts and sheet goods), consider adding an aux fence that extends out in front of the table. That will increase the reference edge as you feed your stock through. The short table won’t matter.
It's sensitive, but doable. I was able to place a dado stack at the exact height I wanted it using mine, took some back and forth and patience. The flip side is non-exact measurements like adjusting the blade to cut different thicknesses of ply are very fast and easy.
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mike93lx
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That makes sense.
It would be a huge time saver for a jobsite.
Huge time saver? Hardly. I can move my Dewalt from buried to fully extended In a few seconds. And for jobsite work, how often are you changing depth?
kythri
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Well, this is patently false, per the video located at https://www.sawstop.com/table-saws/by-model/jobsite-saw
It has the same "**** the bed" safety system as the other models - burying the blade into an aluminum block.
It appears that you posted a question about outfeed tables in a thread about Sawstop portable saws.
Not sure why you are questioning everyone else's answers, your first post was off topic.
neophyte
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The vast majority of the work I’ve seen contractors doing with portable benchtop style table saws, is spot repairs on buildings, were smaller areas have rot issues, whether downspout covers, fences, door or window framing etc., and a contractor needs to make replacement pieces of wood fit to patch the older area.
Repairs like this are routinely down with pressure treated wood, and routinely require cutting down larger pieces of wood to fit the older area.
Contractors will definitely use portable tablesaws like jobsite saws to rip down pressure treated wood to fit. I’ve seen it done.
I live in a major city, and almost nobody is going to carry around a larger tablesaw, like a cabinet saw or contractors saw. Contractors tend to carry around portable tools that might half fill the bed of a pickup truck, so typically a mitersaw, a tablesaw, a vacuum sometimes, and handheld saws like circular saws.
Sometimes you see planers.
Almost nobody uses bandsaws or jointers on site, except portable bandsaws for pipe cutting.
This leaving the tablesaw or the circular saw for ripping wood.
The SKILSAW SPT70WT-01 worm drive tablesaw basically acknowledges the fact that jobsite tablesaws are used for ripping thick wood due to the 3-1/2” depth of cut.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01AX4B7I6/?tag=atomicindus08-20
@neophyte. Okay, he didn’t do the best job of making the point. If you’re a contractor building decks regularly, you already know it’s a hassle to switch off the brake mech to cut PT since you’re working with it frequently. I think your use case also fits into that category. Any contractor dealing with PT lumber frequently will have more false brakes and chewed up blades than they can count. But if you’re a homeowner, DIYer, woodworker, interior trim carpenter, etc, the PT lumber is so infrequent that it’s better to have the digit saving tech. It all comes down to knowing how you will use the saw and choosing appropriately. Often I see the PT issue brought up out of that context, which is what Steve was talking about.