Schlage keypad locks..

[BellyUpFish]

Hey guys-

Looking at adding one of these keypad locks to the house, but what I'm seeing is that they typically come in a set of either a deadbolt lock and "non-locking" knob.

I like to have a deadbolt and a locking door knob for my exterior doors.

So to that end, I'm looking at picking up a keypad deadbolt and keypad door knob.

My question is, is the time delay before these things lock themselves (if it's motorized) enough for me to punch a code into the deadbolt and then punch a code into the door knob and get into the house?

Anyone?

 

[zorty]

I have one of the electronic deadbolts, and love it. They way it works is that the inside of the door looks and functions as normal with a lever you twist to manually lock/unlock. The exterior side has a similar looking knob/lever that freespins until you punch in a code to unlock, which "engages/enables" the knob to move the deadbolt for a few seconds.

There is no delay in this style, as to lock you just hit the top button and twist the lever to move the deadbolt as if you were inside. Unlocking is the same, just inputting the code instead of hitting the top lock button. Pretty simple.

 

[NUTTSGT]

We have a couple different ones at the fire station.

As far as the time delay goes, I would think you would be alright to enter one then the other, if you do it prompty. If you're a slow type of person, you may not be fast enough.

One thing you could do is to punch code into the door handle, turn it with one hand and then enter the code for the dead bolt. I belive while you have the handle turned, it won't "lock" back on you.

Just to be sure, I'll try to remember to test it out tomorrow when I go to work. If I don't post back up about it, send me a PM to remind me.

 

[Bill Bowman]

^^^^^I have a Schlage key pad handle on my shop door (I really love it) and yes, if you put the code in and then hold then handle down, you can take as long as you want with the dead bolt key pad.

 

[BellyUpFish]

How are your batteries doing? I've been reading some negative battery life reviews?

 

[Todd.Brock]

I have a KWIK set lock that has buttons and a key slot. The door handle for our front door didn't have a lock on the door handle side. I didnt realize it until it was installed. I ended up using just the auto locking deadbolt. It auto locks after 60seconds, but that can be turned off via a dipswitch. We go in and out a lot apparently b/c the 4 AA batteries wear down in about 4 months. It slows down and beeps at you. For the kwikset - I know you asked about schalge- you can turn in off beeps, keypad back light, auto lock and zwave functionality. Nice to know the door locks behind you. They work very well for us.

 

[Beemer533]

I have the Schlage keypad locks on all my doors and they are fantastic...

Most of my doors have the non motorized Keypad version, so you have no time limit as you have to manually lock it.

I did install a new door on my garage last year though and i found a sale on the motorized touchpad version. It works very well, but you don't have to have it auto lock. I think the options are off, 30 or 60 seconds for the re-lock function.

You shouldn't have any issue with it.

I'm closing in on a year with the original batteries in the motorized one and it gets used pretty much every day.

The non motorized ones will go for years on a single battery, but I change them every 18 months or so. They do give you plenty of notice though, I've never had one actually die on me..

 

[BellyUpFish]

That's good to hear. Obviously the squeaky wheel gets the grease, but some of the Amazon reviews are pretty anti-battery. LOL

 

[Beemer533]

Well, I don't have 12 kids using it every day, but I think my wife and I use pretty frequently. From my perspective, unless you are operating it many, many times a day you won't have an issue.

I will say that on one of the keypad versions I had to replace the original battery it came with after only 3 months, but once I put in a new one, I went 2 years before I decided to just start changing them all every 18 months regardless.

For me the convenience of not having to carry around house keys at all would be worth it even if I had to change the battery every year....

On that note it did take me several months after installing my first one to trust it enough to not carry the backup key with me, but I have never had an issue with any of them over the last 7 years (my oldest one) or so...

Regarding the Amazon reviews, I tend to look at the percentage of "Complainers" with the keypad lock (2000+ reviews, over 4 stars), 94% are 4 star or better. I am comfortable ignoring the 6% who either got unlucky, have no idea what they are talking about or just like complaining....

 

[JACDes]

^^^^^I have a Schlage key pad handle on my shop door (I really love it) and yes, if you put the code in and then hold then handle down, you can take as long as you want with the dead bolt key pad.

BUT if you unlock the deadbolt first you can take your time with the door knob and NOT HAVE TO HOLD THE HANDLE DOWN because the deadbolt CANNOT LOCK ITSELF

 

[Kevin54]

I don't know squat about keypad locks, so I have a few questions also......if you have a keypad lock, does it stay locked all the time, and do you just turn the doorknob on the inside to get out if it's a motorized lock? And if you have a motorized lock, once you enter the door from the outside, does it relock automatically?

The reason I ask the above is that I have 2 entrance doors to my garage. One handle will stay locked unless I unlock it. So in essence, I could lock myself out. The other door, if I turn the knob on the inside, it unlocks the door. My first door, if it's locked, I can turn the knob inside, and it stays locked.

I would either like a lockset like that, or have an electronic one that will lock itself once the door is shut. Reason being is that I have went into the house in the evening, and left the one door unlocked, thinking it was locked, because I forgot to lock it when I went out. Normally I leave this door locked, but as soon as I turn the handle inside, it's unlocked. Easy to get confused between the two doors.

 

[Beemer533]

I don't know squat about keypad locks, so I have a few questions also......if you have a keypad lock, does it stay locked all the time, and do you just turn the doorknob on the inside to get out if it's a motorized lock? And if you have a motorized lock, once you enter the door from the outside, does it relock automatically?

All my experience is with the Schlage Keypad and touch pad locks. (the Touch is the motorized version).

All the Schlage deadbolts I have (regardless of type) have a manualally operated lever to unlock from the inside. If you have a manual version, it only locks when you lock it. The motorized version can be set to either automatically relock after 30/60 seconds, or you can disable the relock function.

The reason I ask the above is that I have 2 entrance doors to my garage. One handle will stay locked unless I unlock it. So in essence, I could lock myself out. The other door, if I turn the knob on the inside, it unlocks the door. My first door, if it's locked, I can turn the knob inside, and it stays locked.

I would either like a lockset like that, or have an electronic one that will lock itself once the door is shut. Reason being is that I have went into the house in the evening, and left the one door unlocked, thinking it was locked, because I forgot to lock it when I went out. Normally I leave this door locked, but as soon as I turn the handle inside, it's unlocked. Easy to get confused between the two doors.

You can set up the motorized version to relock automatically (mine is set to lock after 30 seconds).

This is the manual version I have on most of my doors: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000NJJ1MQ/?tag=atomicindus08-20

This is the motorized version (I have the version with wireless, but I think you can save a few $$ and omit that feature): http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AGK9KOG/?tag=atomicindus08-20

 

[vartz04]

why do you need the knob lock to lock? its not doing jack squat compared to the deadbolt. When i installed a electronic deadbolt on my old garage, i just put a normal non locking knob on the bottom.

 

[Beemer533]

why do you need the knob lock to lock? its not doing jack squat compared to the deadbolt. When i installed a electronic deadbolt on my old garage, i just put a normal non locking knob on the bottom.

This is how I have mine set up...

 

[Todd.Brock]

I agree b/c it seemed pointless to have a key for the bottom lock and a keyless dead bolt. Safer-probably- useful- not as much.

 

[brycez28]

How are your batteries doing? I've been reading some negative battery life reviews?

My 9volt battery has been in it since August 2013 with no issue. I LOVE it! During the week, I'd say I use it on an average of 3-4 times a day entering the key code. On weekends, 8+ times a day.

Unless if I am doing a project that requires repeatedly going into the garage and back out, I let the lock lock itself. That was part of the reason of me getting it, I wanted something that I didn't need a key to use to get in and something that I didn't have to remember to manually lock.

This is up to you and your personal preferences, but I also setup additional codes for the lock that I can give out to people to get into my garage. Before I had this lock, the lady that was watching out dogs while we were out of town accidentally locked herself out of our house. They ended up breaking the lock on the sunroom door to get in. I now have a spare house key in the garage, so if a situation like this occurred again, I could give her a spare code to get into the garage and access a key.

I also have a friend that I borrow tools to and from. Several times he was wanted to pickup a tool or drop something off while I wasn't home. I give him a code and no problems! One weekend he borrowed my truck to pull his boat while I was on vacation, when he was done with my truck, he was able to lock it up and put the keys in my garage for when I got home.

 

[nehog]

How are your batteries doing? I've been reading some negative battery life reviews?

I'm averaging about 2 years on mine. Love 'em.

Deadbolt won't relock automatically either. Just open it first then the door.

 

[shadyluke]

I've been considering one for my shop too. My concern is the buttons getting greasy/dirty then the code wouldn't take too long to figure out.

 

[Toolfool]

I've been considering one for my shop too. My concern is the buttons getting greasy/dirty then the code wouldn't take too long to figure out.

If someone wants to get in they'll kick a door in or break a window. They won't be taking the time to figure out your 4-digit code.

 

[NUTTSGT]

How are your batteries doing? I've been reading some negative battery life reviews?

That was worrisome for us in the beginning but hasn't really created an issue. I doubt there more on this site that gets more daily use than ours at the fire dept. The door at the top of the stairs into the living quarters probably goes through an easy 50-60 cycles a day, if not more. . . 5 right at morning shift change.

 

[BellyUpFish]

why do you need the knob lock to lock? its not doing jack squat compared to the deadbolt. When i installed a electronic deadbolt on my old garage, i just put a normal non locking knob on the bottom.

Well, I never really thought about it like that.. I guess the double lock really isn't warranted. If the DB fails, the bottom lock sure isn't gonna hold up.

 

[BellyUpFish]

I've been considering one for my shop too. My concern is the buttons getting greasy/dirty then the code wouldn't take too long to figure out.

From what I've read, this isn't a concern but that said, someone kicking a door in is more of a concern.

Most theives aren't passcode breakers.

 

[nafterclifen]

Not sure why you'd want both electronic door knob and deadbolt. I installed an electronic door handle so I can easily come and go on a daily basis. And an inside-only-controlled deadbolt for extra security when needed. Certainly don't feel the need to have/use both at all times.

I can unlock the door handle with the knob inside if I want to come in and out without using the code. It's normally locked though so the door locks when you close it behind you. If I'm going to be away from the house for a while, I'll lock the deadbolt and then exit/enter via the overhead doors.

 

[dschmit]

I have the touch pad dead bolt wth the regular handle on my shop. I have the touchpad handle on my house, it is ok. I like the dead bolt style alot better. Battery rundown has not been an issue with mine, as the electric mechanisim only lifts a lock pin, it dos not have to power a motor to pull the lock in and out.

 

[BellyUpFish]

So none of you guys see a need for a locking deadbolt and locking knob?

I'm ok with it, never really considered it in the past..

 

[Toolfool]

Every entry door on my house and shop have a passage lever set and a keypad deadbolt.

 

[Mitheral]

Both my shop and the house have keypad deadbolts with exterior passage handles. Works great.

I've been considering one for my shop too. My concern is the buttons getting greasy/dirty then the code wouldn't take too long to figure out.

My shop lock has 5 number buttons (1-2, 3-4, 5-6, 7-8, 9-0) and takes a 6 digit code. I just selected a code (you can change them at any time with a minutes work) that uses all five pads so they all get wear. I guess you might be able to tell which one gets pressed twice with plenty of wear but not yet. Even so not much of an advantage. The house locks are only five digits with 10 pads but it can also store multiple codes so between myself, spouse and kid's codes we end up touching all the pads.

The shop deadbolt is a power auto locker but I've got it turned off; it's kind of a pain if you end up coming and going a lot having to enter the code repeatedly. The units on our house are manual lock/unlock and I like those better. The power lock gets a couple years on a set of 4-AA; the house locks get 5+ years and it's been so long I can't remember what kind of batteries.

The house locks also light up once you start pressing buttons. Once you use it for a while it's pretty easy to hit the lock/unlock button to get the rest of the keypad to light up when it's dark.

 

[wssix99]

So none of you guys see a need for a locking deadbolt and locking knob?

No. One lock (the deadbolt) is strong enough. It's all the other stuff around it that is weak. Like you pointed out, thieves (good ones) aren't lock pickers...

One deadbolt, plus a reinforced jam and a sturdy door will get you stronger than 99.9% of the residential setups out there.

A keypad lock is really another weak point. With a good pair of binoculars, a Peeping Tom can turn his binoculars from what's in your house and observe what you are typing on the pad as you go in.

 

[Todd.Brock]

I have always had a locked door and deadbolt but if I wanted to use the keyless entry with my front door then it would have to a single lock. There is an option to special order my front door handle with a keyed lock, but not in a keypad version

 

[BeachBoy]

I have the Schlage Connect and love it.

Mine is connected to my SmartHome hub so I can lock/unlock remotely. Also in the evening it will lock if it was left unlocked, genius.

Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

 

[NUTTSGT]

Checked the one at the fire station. Punch in the code, turn the handle and it'll hold the bolt back as long as you're holding the handle. After the 5 seconds or so, you can here the door locking mechanism switch but the bolt is still retracted.

 

[Pate]

I've been installing the Schlage BE series since they were released. The most common setup is a deadbolt up top and passage knob/lever on the bottom. The spring latch on a passage is just as strong as a deadlatch in a brute force attack.

I have them on all my doors on my own house.

 

[captaindiode]

I have this:

No batteries to give out and easy to operate. Kaba 7100 series. Will mount in standard deadbolt hole, but you have to drill a smaller hole above for the top mounting plate.

 

[BellyUpFish]

Thanks guys.

I'll give the Schlage a shot.