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School me on asphalt sealing

Innovate1

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Had my drive (about 600' done two years ago. Have some small cracks - mostly near the edge. Looking to get it sealed before winter as the freezing weather will just make the cracks worse. Going to get some bids. What sort of questions should I be asking? I'm thinking they need to do more than just roll or spray something on. Have seen something about using heat. What do I need to know in talking to contractors?
 
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Rusted Nut

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Seal coating is just a coating. To do it correctly, seal the cracks first, preferably with a hot tar type sealant, then have it coated. This won’t keep it from ever deteriorating, but will definitely look better and give you several years before you have to do it again.
 

e015475

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FWIW I'm in an HOA that owns our roads, and we do aggressive PM to hold our costs down.

We seal coat our roads about every three years, usually in the fall when the temps fall and the cracks open up, but before the snow starts. We 'touch up' as necessary in between, but always in the fall

We fill cracks bigger than about 3/16 -1/4" with an emulsion, then seal over the top with a seal coat,

The purpose of filling the cracks is to keep rainwater from getting underneath the pavement which can lead to structural failure (potholes)

The purpose of the seal coat is to provide a layer of UV protection and a thin top wear layer.

It is a little bit of a dance between filling cracks and seal coating. If you fill a crack and the crack isn't wide enough to let the emulsion flow into it, it will sit on top of the pavement and pick up with tires, especially if there are vehicles turning. On the other hand, it you let the crack grow too big and just try and fill it with the sealer, you risk water getting under the pavement and a pothole.

As a word of advise, you want to make sure your grading/draining/bar ditches are all working properly to keep water away from your pavement. When you said your cracks were near the edge of the asphalt, that was my first thought

The traffic that does the most damage to our pavement is the city's garbage trucks, especially in cul-de-sacs where they have to turn around
 
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mervyn

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I gave up chasing the small cracks in mine. Have done it myself the last two (2) tymes.
Did it last year so not doing it this year.
Mines aboot 70 x 20.
 
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Innovate1

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Have gotten a couple quotes. The first seemed to know what they are talking about. They said they would seal the cracks. When I asked about hot or cold they said their initial price was cold but that they could do hot for slightly more. Is it just the filler material that is hot or do they heat the surface too? Weather here is sunny so probably ideal but not sure it's going to happen for about a month. Said they would mop on the sealer which will keep it off the cobblestone edge. Have a section that is gravel that I want paved too. We put down fabric under the gravel for construction and the lanes are deep gravel but the center is very shallow - the mat is only a few inches below the surface. They proposed cutting out 4-5" and replacing - seems like a good idea since the gravel has some grass and weeds growing in it - not everywhere or thick growth - I would say moderate. The other quote was just a call with them looking at an aerial view - said they don't need to fill small cracks and just grade and pack the existing gravel. And spray the sealer. Price was nearly the same so a pretty easy choice for the first.
 

drcollie2

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There are two main types of sealer, emulsion or oil. The emulsion is the stuff you buy at Home Depot and is water based. The oil is typically more expensive and applied by asphalt companies. After 30 years. using emulsion, I switched to oil after having a new driveway put in and the difference is dramatic, and the oil lasts much longer. An oil job will cost appx 3x the emulsion
 
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