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Tommytank

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I am a car nut. There, said it, done.

Now thats out the way, let me fill in some background. I've been itching for some proper tinker space for ages. At the moment, i have nearly 5 cars (more on the "nearly" later) and i have always struggled with the space needed to feed my mechanical habit.

A few years ago, i chipped in with a friend and rented a double unit in Glasgow...

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With one car each it (and mine being the larger one) it didnt take long for the clutter to accumulate. After a couple of years, the space is not (for me) little more than storage. Oh, and thats the first car on the list... Number 1: Chevy Camaro

Move on a few years, and i've bought a house 150 miles away from the rented garage. Still paying for it, and its doing nothing more than keeping the Camaro dry. That said, the house came with some fringe benefits...

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A driveway and a lean-to garage. Only a single but definitely a step up! Oh, and meet car 2: MK1 MR2, with its ganky winter wheels on. It normally looks like this:

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Anyway, inside this little single car hovel:

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...its cramped. Realistically, i cant fit a car in, so i bought half a car to fill it. Meet car 3: The Locost 7

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Its a long term kit build, and for those who dont know, it will look something like this when its finished:

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So i essentially have no space for storing and working on my fleet. Well, no covered space. I do, however, have a monster garden...

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About 45 foot by 120 foot of property space. This pic is the end of the garden, and to my left is a LPG tank. This will be a consideration, but only a mild one.

A bit of research later, and today i put down the deposit on a 28' by 24' prefab concrete garage.

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Having moved to the sticks, and making sure my new house had lots of land, i have now reach the point where the man cave can be built.
 
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Tommytank

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Planning permission granted, and more importantly environmental department checked to ensure those trees are not protected, it was time to buy some "old fashioned tools"

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The woman at the till asked if i had big plans at the weekend. Seriously. So my response was clear:

"I'm going to put on some Phil Collins and lay some PVC". She didnt get it.

Anyway, chop chop!

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Wont need to buy firewood for the next year...

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Top marks for missing that composter, eh?

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No. Maybe not....

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This was an interesting injury to explain at work...

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Let the drying begin!
 

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How did that Camaro get in the garage like that? Did you just run it in there at high speed, running over whatever was in there already?

No offense my fellow car nut, but that's got to be the worst garage I've seen.

Different question.., how common are Camaros over there?
 

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I think the Camaro is jacked up and sitting on a stand. The first thing I thought though was WTF!!!

I'm looking forward to see how this build pans out.
 

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Welcome to GJ. Looking forward to seeing more of your build. Also please keep us posted on the build of the Locost - I want to build something like that with my boys when they are slightly older!
 
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Tommytank

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How did that Camaro get in the garage like that? Did you just run it in there at high speed, running over whatever was in there already?

No offense my fellow car nut, but that's got to be the worst garage I've seen.

Different question.., how common are Camaros over there?

As guessed Ralph, its jacked up. Working on a lot to restore it.

Gen 3s are not that common over here. I guess they dont have the following the 1s and 2s have. I love mine though, and will update on that soon.

The locost is at the true genesis stage, no idea what way it will go!

The Camaros garage is actually a lot better than what it was. We had to nail plastic sheet to the inner roof to stop our gear getting rained on. Seriously, it would have been dryer just leaving our gear outside...

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Its a shed in every sense of the word... :/
 

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Tommy, your garage is funny.

I have been to many different states in the USA a few times in the last 25 years and I would say the most common, jacked-up-and-abandoned-car I've seen is one of these 80's Camaros. Closely followed by an 80's Mustang.
 

GBsnoopy

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The inside of your first garage looks in a simlar order as my workshop garage.
Looking forward to seeing the progress of your future garage.
 

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I'm interested in seeing how this turns out as well.

Reading these threads from across the pond always impresses upon me two things:

1. Man, there are a lot of rules over there (checking with the government before you chop down trees on your OWN property?!)

and

2. Space really is at a premium there, huh?

I always enjoy my time in Britain and Europe but I always seem to breathe a bit easier when I get back into the wide-open Midwest where land is still plentiful.
 

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Welcome to the Garage Journal and we are extremely glad to have you with us. You really have to admire a hard working guy who would take an axe to all those trees in one weekend. I keep looking at all the pictures trying to find the chainsaw. I hope your not planning on hand digging out the stumps with that good looking and well made shovel. I am 68 years old, and I am already tired just seeing your current work on the property!! I am not sure I can hang in if we are going to hand dig. I am just kidding, I could have those stumps out in two hours with a chain and mule team!
Just wondering, what is the description of a "prefab concrete garage"?
 
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They were indeed all hand cut, and the stumps are all hand dug. I am a fat man, and I need to get fit.

A prefab sectional garage is basically a concrete base, concrete trusses, then square sections of concrete "plates" slotted up in the gaps. It will become clearer once it arrives!

Also, don't worry about it taking too long, all trees are now down, and 2 of the 4 stumps are out... :D
 
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Blimey, you don't do things the easy way do you? That would have taken about half and hour with a chainsaw! What are the plans for the Camaro?

Prefab = prefabricated, basically a load of pre-cast reinforced concrete panels that bolt together with a vertical post at the join, the you slap a roof on, either a mono or double pitched roof, usually wriggly tin or fibre cement. They are very common over here, probably the most common type of freestanding garage as they're relatively cheap and quick to put up on a slab. The downside of them is they tend to leak at the slab/wall junction and are cold unless you insulate and line them.

My last garage was one and until I put a dehumidifier in there the tin roof used to rain on you when it was damp and it was always a tad moist along the bottom of the walls. Mind you mine was from the 1960's so I'm sure they've got a lot better.

This is what they look like inside. I will admit to having painted around various bits of shelving and the cuboards are the 1965 Hygena fitted kitchen we ripped out of the house!

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Nice one :) Looks like a nice plot you have there. Will be following with interest.

Are you sure about the concrete prefab though?. Been there, done that. Wouldn't do it again for all the reasons lippy pointed out.
 
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My old man has had one for decades. Once the floor was sealed there was never any bother with it.

Roof leaks are easy sorted, as are insulation issues. For my budget, climate and needs its fine.
 
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More progress...

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All usable firefood taken, and i still have this quantity of "kindling" left over. I predict a bonfire this Sunday...

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All trees now chopped. Time to start removing those roots. A job i did not relish, as looking at the trunk structure i could imagine the roots were somewhat labyrinthed underground. As it happens, i'm actually quite glad I took these trees down now. They are over 30' in length, and had very little in the way of root structure. Just helluva big trunks buried in the ground!!

Dug around them to the depth of a couple of foot, and chopped all roots i could find. I think there must be about a half a ton in weight in these big bastids! Time for an introduvtion into car #4:

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The Suzuki Vitara. A tow rope around the tow bar, 4wd in low transfer, and we were off.

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Out! And the next one...

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Leaving me with this....

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Nice little crater. Leaving me with 2 more stumps to remove. Let the weekend fun begin!
 

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only been on this site a few days Im on the same side of the pond as you but a lot further down near London. Nice to see you have plenty of land to play with will be watching your build. I see what you mean about the hand blister bet you had to explan to the wife what you had been doing at the end of the garden on your own!! haha. I have a large single garage 1 1/2 width by 1 1/2 lengh. Just got a quote for putting a carport on the side of my garage so at least I can work in the dry and use the garage as a workshop. Just drawn up some plans to rearange my garage as I have done this a few times but never been happy with it but after seeing what people have done on this site I have a good idea of what I want. Will post a thread once I start proper work on it.
 
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Another weekend, another prgress update!

Set about the scrawny stump on the far left. No action for a week, so i decided to break in gently. 3 hours in and i had this:

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Pretty easy all things considered. left a nice gap though!!

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The next step was the horrible big stump on the right. Ugh, this one had 7 trunks from its base, so there was no doubt it was going to have a grip on the earth. Not wrong! Spent the rest of saturday merely stracthing the surface!

Sunday came, and i decided on a new tactic. Had been attaching the roots with a basic digging spade, and axe, and a wood saw. Problem is the base has soooo many straggly little roots which hinder the spade breaking the soil. Its densly packed!

As a result, i nipped up to the local garden centre and bought a hand trowel...

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Changed times. If only 20 year old me could see that transaction.

Long story short, it worked! Vitara had its work cut out hauling it but got there in the end.

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Site cleared! Still not sure what to do with the stump though. It is a beast....

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Its still lying there. I'm out of steam..... still, job done!
 
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Ollie, the ground behind the trees is raised, and it looks like abandoned broken concrete that's the culprit. Will have all the holes filled with ******** in about 20 minutes just leveling the plot!

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Getting a bit itchy feet now, so i mocked up a scale sketch of how everything might fit together. Good news is the 2 "shorties" (MR2 on maintenance work and Lotus 7 rep full build) will fit lengthways with room to spare, and i reckon the wiggle room between one side of a car and another will be ample. Really glad at this as squeezing out of a car or shuffling down the door to get under it when working on it is my biggest irritance. I like plenty of room when I'm working.

Also, plenty of room in front of the Camaro for a workspace. Now, how to best make use of that.....
 
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Nope, mandatory. Not a problem though as everyone wears kilts here anyway. As per the stereotypes.
 

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Looking forward to seeing this grow,

Being the user of a single sectionlised garage myself, where every inch is utilised the "N"th Degree

Get well jealous of some of these Garage builds over the pond I really do :drool:, even the small ones are bigger than my house :lol:
 

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Looking forward to seeing this grow,

Being the user of a single sectionlised garage myself, where every inch is utilised the "N"th Degree

Get well jealous of some of these Garage builds over the pond I really do :drool:, even the small ones are bigger than my house :lol:

Good comment!! We do have some very very nice single car garages on GJ. In the last few months, seeing the neat way they are done, I am liking them very much. Even in my own two car garage, I utilize every inch, and I do understand space constraints. Sometimes I think if we could get the woodworking stuff out somewhere else, we would mostly all be ok!
Cheers
 
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