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screwdriver handle for auto

screwdriver handle for auto?

  • Vessel wood plastic

    Votes: 3 11.5%
  • Vessel megadora

    Votes: 4 15.4%
  • Snap on hard handle

    Votes: 13 50.0%
  • Snap on instinct hard

    Votes: 2 7.7%
  • Snap on instinct soft

    Votes: 4 15.4%
  • Klein cushion

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    26

bryant 24

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Which handle is most suitable for auto? Considering always contact with oil, grease...
Vessel wood plastic non-slip handle;
Vessel megadora plastic+rubber;
Snap on hard handle;
Snap on instinct hard handle;
Snap on instinct soft handle;
Klein cushion grip.
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908Jim

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This has been discussed dozens of times around here. Consensus is usually whatever you like to hold best but I'm not inclined to recommend the Klein's for heavy oil/grease/solvents, despite them being one of my go-tos for around the house. I personally use Snap-On Instinct Soft Grips in the garage 80% of the time and Harbor Freight screwdrivers for the sketchy stuff. The Snap-On/Williams Hard Square handles are also great but it's just user preference.

Add the Witte MaxxPlus/MaxxPro to your list, the latter of which are rebadged for Matco and hold up well for Automotive fluids. I used a set for several years and I found them really comfortable and durable but wanted the hex bolster on the Snap-On's when I replaced my set at home. In hindsight, I rarely use it.
 

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No doubt about it, Snap On hard handle.

The Snap On Instinct is, for the most part, made of a lower density material that in my experience is prone to scuffs and abrasion. The Instinct hard is the better of the two, but the Instinct soft is awful in a greasy / gritty environment. Don’t take my word, simply look at the drivers in your picture!

The Vessel Megadora is not as soft as some, but the Vessel Powergrip is a better choice for an automotive environment. The Snap On hard handle is better than either.

I don’t have the Vessel wood grip, but this seems to be yet another example of a designer / stylist who has never worked in a dirty environment, obsessing over grip, at the expense of the ability to wipe the handle clean.
 

AEAdam

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Define “most suitable”.

The goal of the screwdriver design isn’t “which will stay cleaner?”.

In automotive, I rarely encounter Phillips head screws. Used to be that entire interiors were held in place with trim head Phillips screws. For interiors (assuming low torque, low corrosion), the best screwdrivers are those you can spin the fastest. I like Klein style for that. Grease is not a factor when removing glove boxes, etc.

For engine bays, I see Phillips only occasionally, and when I do, they may be stuck stuck stuck. In those instances, I want something that can deliver torque. That’s what Instincts were designed for and excel at. The handle shape, even when coated with grease, still provides good torque transmission.

But of course this depends on the shape of ones hand and grip strength. I think instincts offer a mechanical advantage, helpful for folks who suffer from arthritis, hand fatigue, or don’t for whatever reason have hands of steel.

In my opinion, Snap On’s hard handles offer a reasonable mid point. Their popularity with pros world wide has earned their reputation. The blades are excellent, handles are easy to clean. Mine are 30yrs old, worn smooth from years of use. Only criticism: I find them a bit slippery sometimes. With gloves on, no problem.

I recently rebuilt the head of my milling machine. There were lots of straight slot and phillips screws. Mucky to disassemble, super slippery greasy reassembly. I used hard instincts. You can wipe them clean with a paper towel. And clean them spotless with non abrasive hand cleaner. They worked great for me.

So a better question might be, “when your hands are greasy, which screwdriver handles still provide enough grip to be functional, I.e. deliver torque?” My answer is Instincts. It’s not a beauty contest.
 
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AEAdam

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While we are talking screwdriver handles:

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How I ended up with yellow is a long story I’ve told before and won’t bore you with again.

I stuck with yellow so I could distinguish between my tools and others‘. Again long story.

Were I to start all over again, I’d choose a rainbow of colors. I think that would be faster to grab what I wanted or to ask for a tool from a helper or whoever is passing by (family etc). That could mean PB Swiss, who make polychromatic sets. Maybe not smart for a pro. My approach might be smarter in a shared workspace. But if you work alone, colors can help you.

One more thing: black might be the coolest color, but it’s darn hard to find in a black interior or engine bay. Bright colors are just better. Again, it’s not about which look better, black hiding grime. For me it’s the opposite. Handles that show dirt and grime give you the chance to clean it before you telegraph filth into a leather interior.

PS That 5 piece set of instincts is a very good starter set for automotive. You may find you only need a few straights, some minis, and maybe one or 2 others. 90% of the time, this set will cover you.
 
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bryant 24

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Define “most suitable”.

The goal of the screwdriver design isn’t “which will stay cleaner?”.

In automotive, I rarely encounter Phillips head screws. Used to be that entire interiors were held in place with trim head Phillips screws. For interiors (assuming low torque, low corrosion), the best screwdrivers are those you can spin the fastest. I like Klein style for that. Grease is not a factor when removing glove boxes, etc.

For engine bays, I see Phillips only occasionally, and when I do, they may be stuck stuck stuck. In those instances, I want something that can deliver torque. That’s what Instincts were designed for and excel at. The handle shape, even when coated with grease, still provides good torque transmission.

But of course this depends on the shape of ones hand and grip strength. I think instincts offer a mechanical advantage, helpful for folks who suffer from arthritis, hand fatigue, or don’t for whatever reason have hands of steel.

In my opinion, Snap On’s hard handles offer a reasonable mid point. Their popularity with pros world wide has earned their reputation. The blades are excellent, handles are easy to clean. Mine are 30yrs old, worn smooth from years of use. Only criticism: I find them a bit slippery sometimes. With gloves on, no problem.

I recently rebuilt the head of my milling machine. There were lots of straight slot and phillips screws. Mucky to disassemble, super slippery greasy reassembly. I used hard instincts. You can wipe them clean with a paper towel. And clean them spotless with non abrasive hand cleaner. They worked great for me.

So a better question might be, “when your hands are greasy, which screwdriver handles still provide enough grip to be functional, I.e. deliver torque?” My answer is Instincts. It’s not a beauty contest.
Do you mean instinct soft or hard?
Auto screwdriver sets should include some torx screwdrivers?(T10-T40),seems torx is becoming more and more popular in cars
 
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bryant 24

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不确定我可以在 Ranger 的哪里使用螺丝刀,除非我想拆下软管夹。所有东西都是六角头或 Torx。
Torx screwdrivers are not common in auto repair,hex screwdrivers are even less,mechanics prefer ratchets+torx/Allen socket?
 
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Add the Witte MaxxPlus/MaxxPro to your list, the latter of which are rebadged for Matco and hold up well for Automotive fluids.

Not to shamelessly self promote but I have a whole bunch of new ones of these I bought if anyone is interested. Great drivers.
 

AEAdam

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Do you mean instinct soft or hard?
Auto screwdriver sets should include some torx screwdrivers?(T10-T40),seems torx is becoming more and more popular in cars
I was unspecific on purpose. I think hard or soft is pretty much personal preference. Not to dismiss what @Dave455 said, I think its the shape of the handle that most affects its utility. Materials are secondary. He may say (please chime in Dave) the density of the plastic affects the balance of the tool. Agree. The Instinct handles are so large, maybe they would be too heavy if they were more dense.

Some say the soft grips are sticky (they can be) and that they are difficult to clean (they are not, you just need to know how to do it). Guys who are rough on their tools, could potentially damage the soft grips, and I agree they get kinda nasty when the over mold is torn. The hard Instincts can be sanded or filed or scraped smooth when they get beat up. I have both and couldn't tell you which I favor. The question I would ask would be gloves or bare hands? For automotive, I'm new to gloves but wear them pretty much for the entire job. Its the grip I like and speed of cleaning them (WD-40 for example).
 

sz0k30

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Been playing with cars for a lot of years. Other than adjusting the idle screws on a carburetor, or tightening/loosening clamps, very few other uses in an engine compartment. Primary tools there are sockets & wrenches. Still using the same Craftsman screwdrivers I bought over 50 years ago!
 

richfinn

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Vessel Megadora for me, I like the handle and the striking cap and the fit on crosshead screws.

I've got a bunch of Snap-On too which are nice enough, but personally prefer the Japanese brand.
 

nicks78camaro

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Which handle is most suitable for auto? Considering always contact with oil, grease...
Vessel wood plastic non-slip handle;
Vessel megadora plastic+rubber;
Snap on hard handle;
Snap on instinct hard handle;
Snap on instinct soft handle;
Klein cushion grip.
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