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Cantaloupeman

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So I'm in the market for a good screwdriver set. I need something that won't strip out as often as my fatmax screwdrivers. I'd like around a 5-8pc set that includes a PH3 and a good mix of slotted as well.

Right now I'm leaning towards the wiha 7pc softfinish set, The proto duratek 8pc, Sk hard handled, tekton 6pc and williams 8 piece. I could use some help deciding which set would suit my needs best.

Sidenote do you guys think chemical resistant handles are worth the extra fuss for working on cars?
 
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I had the snap on black handles years ago (only have one left - that’s another story) which I’m told are the same as the Williams. They were great.

Now I have a set of the Tekton red hard handles and I really, really like them.
I do find the hard handles much easier to clean for auto work.

Maybe order just 1 of a few brands before diving into a full set.


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I installed car audio professionally for 20 yrs and work on my hot rod Mustang and friends cars all the time. I wouldn't think of anything but Snap-On screwdrivers, other than the Robertson square drives, which I'm not sure they make.
 

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get the Vessels with the black nubbies on the handle - recent post on them here

I like Vessel better than Snappie
 

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Preference is using 1/4 bits in a ratcheting driver, Not always possible or practical though. I have a fixed blade Snap-on set, but the T10 Witte/Matco screwdriver I have is holding up far better then the Snap-on equivalent I bought for dealing with TPMS sensors. Defiantly worth consideration.
 

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So I'm in the market for a good screwdriver set. I need something that won't strip out as often as my fatmax screwdrivers. I'd like around a 5-8pc set that includes a PH3 and a good mix of slotted as well.

Right now I'm leaning towards the wiha 7pc softfinish set, The proto duratek 8pc, Sk hard handled, tekton 6pc and williams 8 piece. I could use some help deciding which set would suit my needs best.

Sidenote do you guys think chemical resistant handles are worth the extra fuss for working on cars?

Hard handle is better than soft/rubbery handle, when you unavoidably got grease, oil, fluids on them.

I'd get Willams or Snap On hard handle, great screwdrivers for auto repair. + Vessel Impacta #2, #3

German screwdrivers often uses CR-MO steel, which is softer. I'd rank Snap On/Williams etc US made screwdrivers, including Craftsman, and Vessel ahead of German stuff.
 

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Those are all good quality brands with big followings, but the bottom line for me is this:
Get the quality screwdriver set with the handle that you like.
And remember that screwdrivers are disposable. :thumbup:
 

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I installed car audio professionally for 20 yrs and work on my hot rod Mustang and friends cars all the time. I wouldn't think of anything but Snap-On screwdrivers, other than the Robertson square drives, which I'm not sure they make.
Then you are missing out on a lot nicer drivers. Snap on isnt even close to the best screwdriver.
 

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Then you are missing out on a lot nicer drivers. Snap on isnt even close to the best screwdriver.

^^^ This.

I don't care much about straight-blade screwdrivers; about the only thing I use them for, other than the occasional hinge screw in my 100-year-old house, are adjustment screws. In such cases, anything works. But when it comes to Phillips-type screws, there's a huge difference in screwdriver brands.

When evaluating a screwdriver, my first criteria is fit to the fastener. If it doesn't fit properly, the chances of a marred or stripped fastener go up. They're also more tiring to use, because to keep the driver in the fastener you have to use a lot of downforce. Doesn't matter how nice the handle is or how tough it is, if it doesn't fit the fastener it's simply not good quality — no matter whose name is stamped on the handle.

Over the years I've had drivers from Craftsman (the old WF-made clear handles), SK, Wright (which are Pratt-Read), Williams, Snap-On, and some others I'm forgetting. None of the US-made drivers fit screws very well, unless they're true Phillips, and even then have a tendency to cam out without a lot of downforce.

The SO were tougher and wore better than the Craftsman, but didn't fit screws much better — particularly the screws used in cars and other products made in or by Japanese and European companies, which means just about everything these days.

Then I found Vessel, and all my other screwdrivers went straight into the "prybar pile". They fit DIN/JIS screws properly, and even fit true Phillips heads better than Phillips drivers. They don't chew up fasteners, and their tight fit makes them easier and less tiring to use. (They fit so precisely that I can often stick a screw on the end of the driver and it will hold in place as I maneuver it into the hole. No magnets needed.) They're also available in a wide range of handle styles, so you can get just what you like.

(I'm told some of the German screwdrivers have similar performance, but I've not used them.)
 
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Witte , rebranded by both Matco & Cornwell as well as several German companies(knipex).
Even Klein tools rebranded Witte for a short time.
 

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I now buy individuals. I only buy the sizes and types I want and I'm trying several different brands.
 

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I use a black handle Williams set
And a set of felo demolition/impact red hard handle
And snap on and pb Swiss ratcheting type

The Williams and felo are excellent. The felo i mostly use the flat blades ones with a hammer ... they are designed for that.

For most use i tend to reach did the snap on ratchet with a pb Swiss #2 philips bit
 

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SK, Tekton or Williams or Capri would be great. Snap-on is ok but not my favorite. Old USA Craftsman are excellent and are one of my favorites too. I use all those professionally and they work great.


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Right now I'm leaning towards the wiha 7pc softfinish set, The proto duratek 8pc, Sk hard handled, tekton 6pc and williams 8 piece. I could use some help deciding which set would suit my needs best.

Sidenote do you guys think chemical resistant handles are worth the extra fuss for working on cars?

Sounds to me like you'll probably end up with the Williams set (the Snap-on equivalent goes for roughly $250 on eBay, and that's crazy talk).

I've always wanted a set of these as it would put me in the cool kids camp.
https://windhoektoolcentre.weebly.com/wera-screwdrivers.html

The 'normal' Weras get kind of dirty (got some) and the uber-HD Wihas are (to me) kind of a pain due to their size...having little soft doctor hands and all.

What would be really cool is a PB Swiss blade on one of those Williams/Snap-on handles. Wiha used to make a hard plastic square handle but those are long gone. Requiring PH3 will lessen the selection somewhat, although that could be handled with a bit holder (not a bad idea anyhow) of course.

For fun, I suppose you could give these a shot. Not a bad price ($20)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000XDNSQ2/?tag=atomicindus08-20

although the PH3 version is almost as much as this set.
 

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I guess I am getting old, but when the topic of screwdrivers come up and people ask what to get, one thing leads to another and everyone including myself have a say in this topic.

1) get what feels good in your hands.
2) get a good fit (JIS/ German/ American)
3) try everything in sight. You could order one of everything but that gets very expensive, you could ask a coworker to try theirs, or you can do like i do and buy them used every chance you get.

Just this week I stopped by a garage sale and I bought the following screwdrivers, although they needed a little cleaning up they all work, which is a plus in my book.

I do this every week and now I have so many different ones that I could not use every one even if I had a 24/7 week...lol:rocker::eek::rolleyes::beer:

What I picked up yesterday...
 

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I know I will catch ****, but I like the old Craftsman clear/red and blue handled screwdrivers !

Reasonably priced (you used to be able to pick up a set on sale for under $10) and the fit my hand well. I am pretty sure I have a #3 Phillips, but if you need one, you likely need a need a hand impact or a Shake N Break Air Impact Screw Remover to crack it loose first.
 

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The wooden handled Felo drivers have taken a lot of abuse from me. Highly recommend.
 

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I know I will catch ****, but I like the old Craftsman clear/red and blue handled screwdrivers !

Reasonably priced (you used to be able to pick up a set on sale for under $10) and the fit my hand well. I am pretty sure I have a #3 Phillips, but if you need one, you likely need a need a hand impact or a Shake N Break Air Impact Screw Remover to crack it loose first.

For flat blade, I use my Craftsman as well - but not for Philips. I've found the #2 CM to be just too soft and the fit's not great. Instead of buying a whole new set, I bought a #2 Vessel and a #2 PB Swiss, I like them both.
 

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So I'm in the market for a good screwdriver set. I need something that won't strip out as often as my fatmax screwdrivers. I'd like around a 5-8pc set that includes a PH3 and a good mix of slotted as well.

Right now I'm leaning towards the wiha 7pc softfinish set, The proto duratek 8pc, Sk hard handled, tekton 6pc and williams 8 piece. I could use some help deciding which set would suit my needs best.

Sidenote do you guys think chemical resistant handles are worth the extra fuss for working on cars?

If you go Wiha I'd suggest the Microfinish over the softfinish handles (I have both). Better grip in slippery conditions.

Personally I think the Williams black handle set is overhyped. I bought a set years ago and didn't like the handles and the tips were just so so fastener fit-wise. Bit that's just my opinion.

My favorite cross point drivers are Vessel 900 series Megadoras. Great fitting tips and handy knurling on the shafts, grips are comfy too (for me).

I've never owned the Durateks but they seem nice, the handles are very chemical resistant, although I've never had an issue with Wiha (soft/micro) or Vessel grips in all the years being used in an auto shop setting.

I'm not a fan of Wera handle's shape, but others love it. I found their tips seemed softer than other brands too :dunno:

The truth is, screwdriver choice is a personal decision so you'll get lots of opinions. Try some out and see what you think. Just remember, screwdrivers are a consumable, they all wear out, eventually. If you're beating screwdrivers on a regular basis invest in a hand impact driver, your screwdrivers will last A LOT longer.

:beer:
 
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The truth is, screwdriver choice is a personal decision so you'll get lots of opinions. Try some out and see what you think. Just remember, screwdrivers are a consumable, they all wear out, eventually.

I would add to this statement and say that..... when you find "the one", buy a bunch of them because sure and shootin', they will decide to discontinue your favorite.
 

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about handle shape...

sure, you want a handle that fits your hand and feels good

- but note that you (like other monkeys) have two grips - a power grip and a precise grip

the best handle shape for a big driver (e.g. auto work) may not be best for a small (electronics) one

different use cases affect whether you like SwissGrip or something easy to clean

and even if you work on cars you might find the SwissGrip worthwhile - say you're retired and have got all your old cars all cleaned up...
 

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about handle shape...

sure, you want a handle that fits your hand and feels good

- but note that you (like other monkeys) have two grips - a power grip and a precise grip

the best handle shape for a big driver (e.g. auto work) may not be best for a small (electronics) one

different use cases affect whether you like SwissGrip or something easy to clean

and even if you work on cars you might find the SwissGrip worthwhile - say you're retired and have got all your old cars all cleaned up...

My Torx driver set is PBS Swissgrip. They're fine in my home shop, stay clean enough for me.
 

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I know I will catch ****, but I like the old Craftsman clear/red and blue handled screwdrivers !

Reasonably priced (you used to be able to pick up a set on sale for under $10) and the fit my hand well. I am pretty sure I have a #3 Phillips, but if you need one, you likely need a need a hand impact or a Shake N Break Air Impact Screw Remover to crack it loose first.



Same here those in my opinion were great handles. I still use mine daily. And Ace Hardware has the USA ones. I constantly buy more because I am worried they will stop selling them.


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They fit so precisely that I can often stick a screw on the end of the driver and it will hold in place as I maneuver it into the hole. No magnets needed.)

Also works the other way. If you have a screw in a wall or straight vertical surface, you can poke a vessel screwdriver in there and it'll hold the whole screw driver straight out horizontally.
 

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I'd take a good look at the Felos from kctools or Amazon. I have the red hard handle set for automotive work so I can clean the handles. They also offer a soft handle ergo version as well. They run about $40-50 a set. I liked it so much I bought a set for my next door neighbor. I have a complete set of Klein's that I use for carpentry and honey do stuff around the house but the Felos are my first choice in the garage.
 

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SK, Tekton or Williams or Capri would be great. Snap-on is ok but not my favorite. Old USA Craftsman are excellent and are one of my favorites too. I use all those professionally and they work great.


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How is williams great but snap on "ok"? Or are you referring to the instinct handled snappys?
 

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For automotive work I use the MATCO hard red handled set had them for 30 years no problems .....for trade work use klien
 

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First post from the new guy. After reading through the various threads about screwdrivers I bought these to try out. The Vessel Megadora, jaws fit is a favorite. The longer shank length I like and wish they also had them in 200mm-300mm lengths. The Wiha Micro Finish are on the list at KC. I like the Felo too. Fasteners vary, so far I find that the Vessel generally fits better. I've not used the Sunflag very much so no opinion at this point.

These were the take:
 

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I've been upgrading one driver at a time. Other than the Channellock set with the through tangs, I got rid of all the Taiwan and China **** I had in the drawer and am trying several different makers offerings.

Right now, I like the Vessel Jaws Fit in Phillips as well as Felo. In slotted, I'm finding I still like my Kleins but have added multiple offerings from others.

Screwdrivers are like a buffet to me. But I have pretty well filled my needs at this point other than a 1/4" slotted insulated that I ordered yesterday.

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