Screwdriver Show - Recommendations on tests

[rocksarefun]

Hi All,

I am producing a show called "Passing the Knowledge" kind of a comedic how to show where I explore many topics. It's not out quite yet but I wanted to get some thoughts for an upcoming episode:

I'm going to be shooting an episode purely dedicated to #2 Phillip screwdrivers. It's a bit of a comedy in that we all know they will all work, but it will be interesting to compare the perceptions people have. In fact, that's most of the fun in reading garage journal anyways.

Are there are any fun or smart tests that I could do with phillips screwdrivers for practical tests? I'm going to be bringing on a mechanic from a local garage, a home DIYr, and someone who knows nothing about tools.

Some of the brands I'll have:
Matco, Snap-on, Mac, Stahlwille, PB Swiss, Vessel, Gedore, Craftsman, Stanley, Husky, Wera ... thats all i can think of.

Thanks for your help!

 

[Coloshaver]

It may be beyond your scope, but how about #2 phillips driver bits?

Sort of related to that is how large an angle can you be misaligned before you turn (or spin) out of the screw slot?

Looking forward to your video.

 

[Falcon67]

Phillips screwdriver = hole punch. Small smores stick. Works good for letting the air out of pool toys. Throw them at a big block of styrofoam like knives and see which ones have the best balance/penetrating power.

 

[rocksarefun]

@Coloshaver - Thanks I'll keep that in mind, hopefully the mechanic will think about that aspect as well.
@ Falcon67 - Thanks for your very random ideas.

 

[jwh]

Don't forget Klein and Vaco.

 

[larry_g]

Design a prybar test to see which ones work without bending. Maybe explain the difference between Phillips, JIS, posi drive, and the other 'cross' drive screwheads.

 

[wnstwolf]

How about a little lesson on why the Phillips came into existance?

 

[tmcowboy]

Some of the brands I'll have:
Matco, Snap-on, Mac, Stahlwille, PB Swiss, Vessel, Gedore, Craftsman, Stanley, Husky, Wera ... thats all i can think of.

You know on GJ you're bound to leave someone out like Wiha and Bondhus...

 

[sublimate]

I have a soft spot for these guys:

was the first "tool" I ever owned as a child. I loved how it kept opening up and you end up with more screwdrivers than you expected - kind of like the nesting Russian dolls.

Maybe you can work one into your test. It would fail horribly as they aren't well made. A well machined one, however, would be a thing of beauty.

 

[Falcon67]

Seriously - and not sure how you'd set up a test - my main malfunction with phillips #x screwdrivers is that some have more of a tendency than others to climb out of the screw.

 

[Saw]

Bahco, just bought the ratcheting one this week along with a Wera Komfort Kompact, both really nice screwdrivers. The main reason I bought them was the accolades they received in the old world tools thread. I have a couple Snap-ons, Wiha, Craftsman, Stanley, Picque, and many other 4 ways.

Looking forward to your show, keep us posted.

 

[teal95]

To extend it you could also get into drill/drivers vs impact drivers.

 

[gotham]

Seriously - and not sure how you'd set up a test - my main malfunction with phillips #x screwdrivers is that some have more of a tendency than others to climb out of the screw.

I believe phillips is designed to climb out of the screw to avoid breaking the screws.

 

[ichabod]

Give the guy that don't know a screwdriver from his *** one of these to use, might be good for a laugh

 

[justsam]

Might be fun to ask if there are metric or Whitworth as well as SAE Screwdrivers.

Also don't forget the Reed and Prince which looks like a Phillips, but isn't.

 

[Haveblue]

Demonstrate how using valve lapping compound can give extra bite, and keep the tip from "camming out" I learned this trick from members here..and it does work!

 

[Daves69]

Use the Enderes Tools test.

I remember getting the Enderes phillips display and was impressed at the tip with no damage after being pressed through 1/4" steel.

 

[raceman712]

enderes, made in tiawan....

 

[rancherbill]

You should have these Mastercraft screwdrivers from Canadian Tire.

They are very Good tough screwdrivers with a diamond coating on the tips. It is way better than lapping compound and it is on the driver all the time. The second thing is the shank goes right through and you can hit the end.

They grip like crazy on those screws that have a little oil or dirt on them.
I bought them as a novelty/special purpose set. After using them they are my primary set.

It would be interesting to see their reactions.

http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/mastercraft-maximum-8-piece-diamond-driver-0573669p.html#.U5JwGXJdWSo

 

[rburke65]

Comedy? We had some young female apprentices at work and they refered to the Phillips and the flat tip drivers as "plus" and "minus"...........hard to believe, but.......

 

[Haveblue]

Those look like great screwdrivers bill!! I'd like to see them tested in the hands of the guests. You gotta love it when an "iffy" tool set turns out to be the one you use the most. This is a good topic! I'm looking forward to the videos rocks!

 

[nicksnothereman]

Hi All,

I am producing a show called "Passing the Knowledge" kind of a comedic how to show where I explore many topics. It's not out quite yet but I wanted to get some thoughts for an upcoming episode:

I'm going to be shooting an episode purely dedicated to #2 Phillip screwdrivers. It's a bit of a comedy in that we all know they will all work, but it will be interesting to compare the perceptions people have. In fact, that's most of the fun in reading garage journal anyways.

Are there are any fun or smart tests that I could do with phillips screwdrivers for practical tests? I'm going to be bringing on a mechanic from a local garage, a home DIYr, and someone who knows nothing about tools.

Some of the brands I'll have:
Matco, Snap-on, Mac, Stahlwille, PB Swiss, Vessel, Gedore, Craftsman, Stanley, Husky, Wera ... thats all i can think of.

Thanks for your help!

Strip the hell out of screws and see which one(s) takes it out? Actually, most will, don't tell anyone though they get kind of protective of their fancy drivers. Nowadays it's more about the handle than the duty...consequently, lots of good screwdriver handles. I'll tell you what, you go get a cardboard bin #P2 from lowe's or home depot for under a buck and I'll personally guarantee it will take the screw out without looking like a t-rex chewed on it.

Easiest way to strip screws (I'd say) is put drywall screws in wood with a drill driver. Yeah you can put drywall screws in wood, you're just not supposed to.

Stanley is very similar to the kobalt I think. I was just using a kobalt big boy #P3, awesome driver, weighted right, etc. Even I was surprised.

 

[ibedayank]

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[A**holes Garage]

JH williams

 

[LS6 Tommy]

Give the guy that don't know a screwdriver from his *** one of these to use, might be good for a laugh

One of my favorite tools. Every time I use one of them somebody gives me that confused dog head tilt look...


Back to the OP's request, don't forget to include the JIS (metric) versions.

AFAIK, Stanley & Klein are made in the same factory.

Tommy

 

[rocksarefun]

Wow! Thanks for all the replies and funny thoughts, good test ideas.

Clearly there are many different brands, and I won't be able to get all of them. But I am getting the majors. Once they all come in I'll get everything in order and shoot it. I had never held a snap on till I ran after the truck to buy one yesterday. I love the handle, its super beefy compared to the european ones I've been getting.

A good point on the JIS, Prince, Reed, Phillips tips. I'll note that in the video because they are technically different tools at that point.

 

[kenfath]

The show needs to include Harbor Freight's Phillips #2.

Actually I have a HF #2 Phillips x 4". It is my 'go-to' #2. Very nicely made, hardened tip fits screws well.

 

[nicksnothereman]

The show needs to include Harbor Freight's Phillips #2.

Actually I have a HF #2 Phillips x 4". It is my 'go-to' #2. Very nicely made, hardened tip fits screws well.

You mean pittsburgh pro obviously. Some of those freebies are hilariously made (the shanks ain't straight in the handle); definitely sort of usable though.

 

[Iron-Iceberg]

I think the slipping off the screw and driving the #2 tip through the side of your finger test, should be at the top of the list. Extra points for not just grazing the side but an actual puncture wound is tops in my book.